So with all the exciting stuff in regards to 5.x coming up, this popped into my head once again due to the reworking of jobs once again for Shadowbringers. What is going to, if anything, possibly happen with this spell in regards to it being on Summoner?
I mainly bring this up because currently its just... there. At most on Summoner it will heal about 700hp which really doesn't do much aside from it being ok in some low level content. Personally I'd like to see us given a trait that makes it more useful as a healing spell for Summoner, but I do understand if that can't be done.
However it would be nice to see... something happen to it so we don't have a useless skill just sitting there. What are some of your thoughts?
Summoners and Physick
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03-25-2019, 05:47 AMRobert_IlcriSummoners and Physick
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03-25-2019, 05:55 AMRongway
It can be traited to heal more. It doesn't need to though. Just pretend it doesn't exist. The solution should be "kill it faster", not "prolong the fight". Even RDM doesn't use its heal except to trigger Dualcast during downtime. Exceptions to this are in exceptional situations that we don't need to balance around, like undersizing or waiting for a healer replacement.
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03-25-2019, 05:55 AMAramina
It's there because it is part of the base class. I don't think its power will increase though as they aren't a healer.
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03-25-2019, 05:58 AMKurando
Make it in to an action for your pet, as Physick itself isn't required at later levels. The pet could take x amount of damage in place of the master, or it could sacrifice a percentage of pet HP to restore someone else's MP. Lots of things could be done with it, but whether anything will that's the big question.
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03-25-2019, 06:54 AMHaxaan
They should either make it do something or get rid of it. Currently it just takes up a slot that another ability could take.
That being said, I leave it in my hot bar as a joke to heal people when they get rezzed because 1k crit summoner heals bring me joy. -
03-25-2019, 07:22 AMdinnertime
They technically can't remove Physick from Summoner, because that would mean it'll get removed from Scholar. They can't move it as a SCH job action either because SCH will have no access to healing skills pre-level 30.
All they can do is ignore it, or make an INT-based heal trait for it so it acts like Vercure. -
03-25-2019, 07:30 AMEaMett
If things go according to plan you will no longer have it. Currently physic is a byproduct of not being able to seperate the SMN/SCH jobs from their base class ACN.
SB introduced the first changes towards switching base classes into jobs. The idea was always to completely finalize the switch for the following expansion. I suspect that that means you will no longer be able to level SMN and SCH together in shb. And you'll have a rework of which skills you bring over to SMN from ACN (ie: not physic). -
03-25-2019, 07:34 AMPenthea
I'm not sure if SE will remove Physick. I think they kept it as part of acn so new players can familiarise themselves with the idea of having and using healing spells in case they play sch.
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03-25-2019, 07:48 AMAyer2015
This can't be right. Am I on the wrong forum? I could have sworn every thread on the FF14 forums was about gender-locking and a lack of healer job.
I'll see myself out now. -
03-25-2019, 07:57 AMAllegor
Ruin already changes to Broil for SCH, so maybe they could do something similar for SMN and Physick. I doubt they'd remove it altogether.
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03-25-2019, 08:56 AMJandor
It should just scale off INT, just like how every single other ability in the game (including the other shared Summoner/Scholar actions) scales off of their jobs primary stat.
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03-25-2019, 09:49 AMRowde
I'd like to see them trait it into a new spell that is a big heal for pets only.
Super situational, but solo'ing with Titan tank is already situational and there have been many times when I wished for an "oh crap" button when I got add aggro and Sustain wasn't quite enough to keep Titan alive. -
03-25-2019, 10:16 AMBurningskull
I'm not a summoner but I don't see why Physic's power can't be determined by intellect like RDMs Vercure.
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03-25-2019, 10:30 AMAomine1992
No thanks I already have five million buttons to press and a non responsive pet to deal with....now you want us to potentially try to fit a role that belongs to redmage. Honestly physical can be removed for us.
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03-25-2019, 10:33 AMEnlaIt can't without affecting SCH. This is the downside of shared base classes and why something like the ARC -> SCH/SMN split will never happen again. At most they can trait or change Physick to another kind of ability to better fit SMN's kit, but they can't remove it without screwing SCH.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aomine1992
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03-25-2019, 10:37 AMAomine1992You right lol I've complained about the ARC thing forever which fed into a whole different argument about SMNs not being SMNs lol but I won't go there on this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enla
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03-25-2019, 10:40 AMKurandoIt's more to do with how jobs are intended to be played with trinity. The devs don't want SMN (another DPS) to have a fully functional heal in end game content, that's why we have RDM (not that RDM is taken for healing, but it's something that makes them unique). Also how long would it be before BLMs start complaining that they have no healing whilst the other two casters do, not to mention rez capabilities as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burningskull
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03-25-2019, 11:31 AMNocturniaUzukiIf you never use it, don't put it on your hotbar. Then it doesn't take up space.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haxaan
While I wouldn't be overly upset if they removed it, it does have some very nice uses in old content, and nothing is gained from outright removing it.
If they change it, though, they're more likely to make it a 71+ skill, which defeats the whole purpose because it effectively removes it anyways. SQEX has a bad track record for "fixing" broken things about jobs by adding new high-level skills, which then leaves the job just as broken (or even more) when synced.