Regarding BRD and the bowharp...

I noticed in the ws sneak peak video that the BRD wasn't using a bowharp. How will music be played then? Will a harp pop out of nowhere? Will we sing instead?

I'm a little scared it will work like Swiftsong, where it's just like casting a normal spell. That for me would be a huge let-down :(

Harp as a secondary without a bowharp perhaps?

Singing is coming wih 2.0
Yoshida need to train his voice first for the sound studio ^^
/jk

We hope singing is coming at least. I hope the swiftsong ability the archer currently has is not their idea of bard songs, in which it's just a spell that is cast.

If you look closely and pause it at the right time during the BRD ws you can see a horn on the BRDs belt... might use that as a seconday item

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Originally Posted by Grudgebringer

If you look closely and pause it at the right time during the BRD ws you can see a horn on the BRDs belt... might use that as a seconday item

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I sure hope so... They already lamed it out once with the auto attack by giving them a silly looking bitch slap... If they reduce songs to just casting a spell I'll be royally pissed.

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Originally Posted by Colino

I sure hope so... They already lamed it out once with the auto attack by giving them a silly looking bitch slap... If they reduce songs to just casting a spell I'll be royally pissed.

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Agree, if the can't at least play songs properly or sing, then why even name the job BRD in the frist place?
I'm worrying more and more that maybe BRD should have been its own class at some point and just let archer > ranger or something.

Please someone tell me there will be proper Bard singing/playing instruments? >.<;

I've been wondering the same for a while now. Maybe we will get instruments..I think in one of the pics you can see one on the bards back.

I hear a rumor that you might learn the answer to this on the 9th

You guys realize that none of the jobs are using their artifact weapons in that video, right...? They've stated that the weapons will not be making their debut until some point after 1.21 is released.

I don't think the harp part of the bowharp will ever seriously be used in any way to play music. It's there for decoration. Sadly, they probably just sing (or pull a harp out of thin-air).

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Originally Posted by Raldo

You guys realize that none of the jobs are using their artifact weapons in that video, right...? They've stated that the weapons will not be making their debut until some point after 1.21 is released.

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Got a Link to that?

It's been a while and I suck at digging through the past dev comments for the info I'm looking for, so hopefully someone else knows where it was said. I'll poke around a bit, but don't hold your breath.

Only reason I question it, for one, is that I am pretty good about keeping up with that info, and I do not recall this, and secondly, I do not see them releasing AF armor and not the jobs weapons.

On the other hand, the fact that they are using "job stones" and not job specific weapons, does seem to support what your saying as well.

It's possible I'm mistaken. I certainly wouldn't bet my life on it, but I swear I read a dev quote (or some other official communication) regarding it. The job stones are there because you can still use the class weapons while on the job. You don't have to wear a whole new weapon to use a job--I do recall where to find the dev quote for that fact.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...812-21-2011%29

(Job-specific weapons are lined up for after 1.21, and we’re making sure getting them will entail a bit of difficulty! )

The horn was part of the initial concept art for the BRD. It also appears to be on the BRD's belt in that video.

I expect the BRD to make use of that while casting the songs - and I expect the animation to be like that of the Moogles, with rotating musical notes.

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Originally Posted by Mug

I noticed in the ws sneak peak video that the BRD wasn't using a bowharp. How will music be played then? Will a harp pop out of nowhere? Will we sing instead?

I'm a little scared it will work like Swiftsong, where it's just like casting a normal spell. That for me would be a huge let-down :(

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In Wuxia, a sword master doesn't need a sword to use sword art. In Final Fantasy XIV, a music master Bard doesn't need a musical instrument to play music.

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Originally Posted by Mug

I noticed in the ws sneak peak video that the BRD wasn't using a bowharp. How will music be played then? Will a harp pop out of nowhere? Will we sing instead?

I'm a little scared it will work like Swiftsong, where it's just like casting a normal spell. That for me would be a huge let-down :(

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Would be a HUGE let-down indeed. I want to sing and play instruments, not cast normal spells, otherwise I'd go BLM/WHM. :o

http://www.dualshockers.com/wp-conte...rp-590x332.jpg

Bow has a hinge folds in half to become a harp

SE has never had a different system for playing songs, doubt SE would do something more elaborate than simple spell casting.

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Originally Posted by Nakiamiie

Would be a HUGE let-down indeed. I want to sing and play instruments, not cast normal spells, otherwise I'd go BLM/WHM. :o

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Agreed...that would be lame :( I hope we have more then just a harp!

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

Agreed...that would be lame :( I hope we have more then just a harp!

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Do you do porn?

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Originally Posted by Majidah

SE has never had a different system for playing songs, doubt SE would do something so elaborate.

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Explain what you mean by "a different system" please? :/

This thread was about us just using animations like swiftsong, instead of actual instruments...

These look different from other FFXI skills to me, and definitely involve instruments...

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/im...LeMlzfRepHbWdwhttps://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/im...K2eWR3bIXYuVSH

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Originally Posted by Junpei

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...812-21-2011%29

(Job-specific weapons are lined up for after 1.21, and we’re making sure getting them will entail a bit of difficulty! )

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Yep. As for how songs will work until job weapons are implemented, I'm going to guess that the animation will be the same except you'll just have your bow. I wouldn't expect them to design an entirely different animation just for use until the weapons are put in.

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Originally Posted by Mychael

Explain what you mean by "a different system" please? :/

This thread was about us just using animations like swiftsong, instead of actual instruments...

These look different from other FFXI skills to me, and definitely involve instruments...

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/im...LeMlzfRepHbWdwhttps://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/im...K2eWR3bIXYuVSH

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I mean it won't use a system for hitting notes and such like in other games. You'll just trigger the skill and it'll probably be casted like a normal spell, only it'll be a song.

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

Agreed...that would be lame :( I hope we have more then just a harp!

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I'm so conflicted! On one hand I don't want a million inventory spaces taken by instruments, but on the other hand I want to play an entire band. XD

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Originally Posted by BrusselSprout

I'm so conflicted! On one hand I don't want a million inventory spaces taken by instruments, but on the other hand I want to play an entire band. XD

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has yoshi commented about the possibility of bards getting bongo drums? I just wanna bang on my drum all day.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

has yoshi commented about the possibility of bards getting bongo drums? I just wanna bang on my drum all day.

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So bongo, bongo, bongo, I don't wanna leave the Congo, oh no no no no no

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Originally Posted by BrusselSprout

So bongo, bongo, bongo, I don't wanna leave the Congo, oh no no no no no

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its settled, i want a rasta bard with optional dread lock wig.

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Originally Posted by Mug

I'm a little scared it will work like Swiftsong, where it's just like casting a normal spell. That for me would be a huge let-down :(

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This is a post Square Enix Final Fantasy game, it's supposed to let you down, that's what they do.

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Originally Posted by Raldo

You guys realize that none of the jobs are using their artifact weapons in that video, right...?

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Yes, but I assumed there would non-AF bowharps.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

its settled, i want a rasta bard with optional dread lock wig.

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And we shall name is rasta bardy

Brd most likely will equip bow in main hand and flute harp off hand, harps and flutes made mainly by crp and gld . This is what makes the most sense. I hope its like so.

ARC now has a chocobo mazurka spell, its obvious you don't need an instrument to play music.

yoshi-p said no job specific weapons in 1.21, meaning not even a non af bow harp

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

ARC now has a chocobo mazurka spell, its obvious you don't need an instrument to play music.

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Apart from the bit where it doesn't even play any music. It just charges up like any other spell.

New Item: Alesone's Songbow

Sounds promising. :D

Well as of now, Brds can only have one song active at a time (presumably by singing). I think it would be cool if in the future Brd gets an ability to transform their bow into a harp, allowing them to have two song effects active at once. They wouldn't be able to shoot arrows in this state, though. Just make the ability have a short recast time so you can use it, get your songs up, then use it again to transform back to the bow and keep shooting. This also makes sense because it could be seen as one song from your singing and the other song from your instrument.

I'd hate to necro bump but I believe bard will probably be a little more musicly inclined in the future. Swiftsongs animation did get an upgrade this patch. But thats not my point

My point is will we be getting instruments to use as sub weapons in addition to our AF songbow? I think the song bow is just a themed weapon, instruments are still to come.

Look at the bard concept art, he is holding a Clarinet or whatever.

http://wdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...0_Specs_EN.pdf