Hammer Weapon

Considering hints on the panel and some small hints in the english livestream, it sounds that there is maybe something job related to the hammer?
Well I will make no high hopes here but maybe we should wait till tomorrow before we set all on fire? At least we could use the time to get more wood to burn the things down . ;)

Not to mention that they still keep secret what a job Minfilia maybe is.

Hey let me at least have a few hours some hope. ;)

I took that as being an NPC we meet in the new expansion not as a new class. Unless i'm completely wrong and its a D&D Cleric Goth style...

Yeah, don't count on it. Nomura straight up said in his letter that he forgot FFXIV doesn't have hammer-wielding classes.

Minfilia is probably just going to be a white mage.

http://www.c4vct.com/kym/numbskul/art/trol-ffm.jpg

Or it goes to us White Mages.

No. There's going to be an active time event with a hammer or something. The developers do not care about healers.

As said my hopes are not high on that matter, but I hope to get at least a statement by tomorrow, that or Square is really a bit crazy to leave that elephant in the room without a word.
Than again they sometimes have that talent for this.
On a sidenote an amuseing thought. Backstage: "Yeah they totally not noticed that we left the healer out. And look how happy they were at the start of the dancer video and than turned totally speechless, they clearly loved what we did. ;)"

Also the english stream very specifically said "the" two new jobs of shadowbringers will be gunbreaker and dancer. As they're professionals at translation and given the amount of planning that goes into these events, I think the chance of that being a mistake/misspoken are low.

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

Also the english stream very specifically said "the" two new jobs of shadowbringers will be gunbreaker and dancer. As they're professionals at translation and given the amount of planning that goes into these events, I think the chance of that being a mistake/misspoken are low.

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Hm true, well I had at least for a few seconds hope there. Even as I still find it a bit insane to do something like that.

"As said my hopes are not high on that matter, but I hope to get at least a statement by tomorrow, that or Square is really a bit crazy to leave that elephant in the room without a word."

We have exciting changes in store for the current healing jobs that will make all you healer mains VERY happy. Would you believe ... ANOTHER oGCD heal?!?! Please look forward to it!

Gaia means earth. Perhaps Geomancer with a hammer?

Quick OFFTOPIC:

I just don't want Mini Minfilla to be a DNC. Just noooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
Loli Dancer no thanks.

Back On-topic:
Really hope hammer job is new healer maybe with enough demand they will consider it?

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Originally Posted by zegota

"As said my hopes are not high on that matter, but I hope to get at least a statement by tomorrow, that or Square is really a bit crazy to leave that elephant in the room without a word."

We have exciting changes in store for the current healing jobs that will make all you healer mains VERY happy. Would you believe ... ANOTHER oGCD heal?!?! Please look forward to it!

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All three healers are getting Lillies. You heard it here first.

'Hammer Job' is going to be the thin ray of hope we desperately cling to until it's literally a week before the expansion and it sinks in that we're not getting a new Healer class.

You know, Green Mage from FFTA was exclusive to Viera and used a hammer. While it did focus on Buffing and Debuffing enemies it's not a far jump to assume they could add heals.

-Keyo Reinhart

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Originally Posted by Muziko

You know, Green Mage from FFTA was exclusive to Viera and used a hammer. While it did focus on Buffing and Debuffing enemies it's not a far jump to assume they could add heals.

-Keyo Reinhart

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Yes please - I would love for Green Mage to make an appearance considering we have white mage, blue mage, red mage, and black mage. Let's add those green guys/gals into the mix too =)

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Originally Posted by Zeromon

The thing is that a hammer healer will almost certainly be melee, or else that hammer is useless. Not sure about a melee healer but at this point, I'm open to literally anything that can heal.

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Nah it won't be useless. It would be argued that Paladins in WoW - one of the healers in that game - can use 1 handed mace which is similar to a hammer. You could also counter argue with Retribution Pally but in the case of Holydin I want to say it's possible to have a hammer healer. *Prepares for death for mentioning WoW*

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Originally Posted by DuskTS

'Hammer Job' is going to be the thin ray of hope we desperately cling to until it's literally a week before the expansion and it sinks in that we're not getting a new Healer class.

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We got until June if they don't want to reveal what Manfilia's job is or why put Gaia's hammer out there this weekend.

The thing is that a hammer healer will almost certainly be melee, or else that hammer is useless. Not sure about a melee healer but at this point I'm open to literally anything that can heal.

That hammer was a mistake from Nomura, he said so in his message, not a new job or anything.

From a pure PR standpoint it does not make sense for them to announce a huge reveal like an additional new job in a live letter as opposed to a keynote address.

As badly as I was looking forward to possibly maining a new healer job, I do not see it coming anymore.

I've lost all trust in Yoshida in all honesty. He yanked us along with the whole 'maybe in the next fan fest' only to reveal a gender lock. However I'm certainly not apposed to geomancer after reading up on their description in the 2nd encyclopedia.

Hi please don’t jump the gun and be all doom and gloom, I personally think there is definitely a healer on the way and I do believe that hammer reference was to do with that. Don’t take all the translations to heart as despite having practiced the two English translators were still just generalising what Yoshi said and not specifically to a set script.
Hammer references in ff series can be linked to a green mate from final fantasy tactics 2, a viera specific healer in that game. I personally just think the healer is still baking and not ready for showcase yet till maybe the may live letter, this will also keep the hype running. Keep faith peeps

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Originally Posted by ForgottenScholar

Hi please don’t jump the gun and be all doom and gloom

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I admire your optimism, but they specifically said Nomura (sp?) forgot there was no hammer class.

I thought this initially too, but your paying an artist to do content and then specifically leave in a weapon that doesn't exist?. You would simply get them to alter the image to replicate a weapon that is, I think it was done on purpose and he was using it as a hint. But again my opinion and until Yoshi says there definitely wont be a new healer I will always be optimistic as no point being sad about something that hasn't been denied or confirmed. By the way I am not a healer main or even play them so I am not like this because I want one for me to play, just hope you in the healer community is addressed with something and not have to wait till 6.0. Live letter later today will be an indication.

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Originally Posted by ForgottenScholar

Don’t take all the translations to heart as despite having practiced the two English translators were still just generalising what Yoshi said and not specifically to a set script.

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Well, you know? not everyone watched the english streaming ñ.ñU
I was watching the japanese streaming and they pretty much said it was Nomura's mistake and he didn't notice that job doesn't exist and Yoshida was all like "we'll do something about that and maybe change it"
But ofc you're free to believe! Evrything can happend if people asks a lot for it.... maybe? xD

There's something very wrong going on if the devs thought not having a healer for what will be 6 years is a good idea. It's like they don't even care about the role.

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Originally Posted by MorfineCeres18

Well, you know? not everyone watched the english streaming ñ.ñU
I was watching the japanese streaming and they pretty much said it was Nomura's mistake and he didn't notice that job doesn't exist and Yoshida was all like "we'll do something about that and maybe change it"
But ofc you're free to believe! Evrything can happend if people asks a lot for it.... maybe? xD

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well to be fair and when you are optimistic it can be understood like, that because of that accident they created a new Job. Since a new weapon normally means a new job in ff14 and telling it that way makes it a fun narration too.

I will believe its still on the cards until Yoshi definitely confirms it wont. I might better believe maybe not a 5.0 release job but one released a few patches down the line, like they did with Nin?. Artwork can always be changed to to just leave it as a mistake and still show it as part of a keynote rather than in a live letter later once it had been addressed is where I would find confusion, hence the reason I still think its a link to a possible hammer healer type job. But as always I would rather be optimistic than be negative when nothing has been confirmed and denied with 3 months left to release info. Still think the job is being baked and not ready for announcement yet.
Oh and im not a healer, so SE not releasing a healer doesn't affect me at all. I would just rather help the healer community temper negativity until all else is truly lost.

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Originally Posted by Tharia

well to be fair and when you are optimistic it can be understood like, that because of that accident they created a new Job. Since a new weapon normally means a new job in ff14 and telling it that way makes it a fun narration too.

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Yep, it can happen as you say! I mean, I'm main healer so I wish we have a new healer incoming whatever the reason is!

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Originally Posted by Zeromon

The thing is that a hammer healer will almost certainly be melee, or else that hammer is useless.

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One could also lob things and dense magic on those that are out of melee range, and channel the magic with a hammer like a staff, both at enemies that come too close, and friends.

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Originally Posted by Zeromon

Not sure about a melee healer but at this point I'm open to literally anything that can heal.

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I feel you.

They could potentially make a healer who strikes the ground and elements come out and provide buffs/heals. Bring back stoneskin, haste(wind) healing waters, vines for slowing enemies etc. similar to how summons in FFXI used to buff parties. I don't think they would have even showed the picture at all if the hammer was a mistake or not going to be implemented in some way, a healer this xpac most likely not, but it would be nice.