This is really Ridiculous how so many really don't understand what choices they are making with this game. And most don't really speak up when they do like something and attempt to defend it but only when they don't like something.
People really need to start getting with the program.
That means reading and understanding the notes. Understanding what you want, Why you want it, What effect it will have on the game and the community. and most important speaking up if you don't quite understand.
SE gets way to much hate and backlash for the community's own faults and problems.
And it's really sad. They can't make you read and understand things. Simple fact is the people who are raging about the merge now are the same people who were complete silent and not understanding the merge options and speaking out why they are against it/for it. And blame SE for it. So please start paying attention and speak up people. SE can't read your mind and do everything for you
Read,Understand and Speak up.
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03-02-2012, 01:11 AMXianghuaRead,Understand and Speak up.
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03-02-2012, 01:12 AMHiirNoivl
No. :(
I like raging. :( -
03-02-2012, 01:13 AMBaxta
Didnt read lol.
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03-02-2012, 01:17 AMrocky
what i can see is so many ppl kiss SEX ass here, which I never met one during game playing.
suck it up, SEX proved to screw many players once again. -
03-02-2012, 01:19 AMEvenstar
Couldn't agree more Xiang.
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03-02-2012, 01:27 AMThanosWhats wrong with SEX?Quote:
Originally Posted by rocky
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03-02-2012, 01:29 AMBrusselSproutThese words should not be put together this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by rocky
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03-02-2012, 01:30 AMKraususQuote:
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03-02-2012, 01:31 AMNikita
This is no doubt in regards to movement cancelling spellcasting.
The developers have a goal in mind, a general idea of what they want 2.0 to be. They are open to feedback, sure. Sometimes though, they need to draw a line and say "this is necessary for our goal". That is what Yoshi-P did when he explained why the change is happening.
As supporters of this game, we need to trust that the developers know what they are doing. Some changes need to happen so the dream that is 2.0 can become a reality. -
03-02-2012, 01:32 AMAmandaHuggenkiss
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03-02-2012, 01:34 AMXianghuaI agree. My whole point of this thread is so many times when SE asked for a feedback. One side was very vocal while the other was very quiet. SE changed it. and Then the other side became vocal and upset. Like the merge issue now. Out of all the people angry now and are being vocal about the change. Most if not all of them were completely silent the 1st time around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikita
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03-02-2012, 02:10 AMNikitaIf you are saying that the opposition to the casting changes were silent when it was first proposed, I beg to differ. The enormous backlash was the reason Yoshi-P made the massive post explaining his reasoning, as I mentioned in the post you quoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xianghua
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03-02-2012, 02:15 AMXianghuaYou're looking at it the wrong way basically a misunderstanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikita
The Silent people are always the people that are against the change not for it. In the casting case.
It would be if yoshi decided to do away with it. Then a bunch of people came out and starting complaining they wanted it. I'm mainly talking about the huge misunderstanding with the server merge. -
03-02-2012, 02:16 AMTheplatter
Edit: Bleh, posted too late :p
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03-02-2012, 02:25 AMNikitaLolwut?Quote:
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Care to back up that claim? -
03-02-2012, 02:29 AMXianghuahttp://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s.-NA-Screwed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikita
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...803-01-2012%29
These people had no clue and some still don't about the Server merge. They are complaining now because what they wanted changed. But None of them said anything about it a month ago when SE had option 4 and everyone was complaining to change it to option 2 they were completely silent. -
03-02-2012, 02:37 AMNarikoStar
I'll speak out as well. As the OP stated.
When SE announced the 1st server merge I didn't have any problems with SE's choice thus I didn't speak out. I personally thought that giving the players (active) a chance to choose what server they wanted (method 4) was a wise choice thus I didn't speak against it.
I'll admit I just lurked the official forums in silence and /popcorned at all the members QQing about why method 4 was such a bad choice by SE and why they would rather have method 2 for whatever reason <insert here> (mostly dealing with splitting up ls/friends who were inactive). My personal stand on it was- who cares, I too have friends who do not play anymore and they have inactive accounts but we're the paying customer's here. A majority of the players I've even heard of that 'plan on coming back' plan on doing so in 2.0 and the chances that new servers/server transfers options will be implemented look very promising. From a developers stand point- They would be crazy not to allow this.
Because of this I could care less if player who have inactive accounts and do not pay for the game currently got split up.
Although, admittedly I did not see method #2 having any different effect on me at the time. Because I would /still/ presumably get a chance to change servers at will. And still /thought/ that active players would take priority.
Server merges come around- The linkshell as a whole decides to make a jump to Hyperion. I've made sure to note to the LS to not put in an application incase something comes up and Hyperion is full (was planning on taking the 2nd chance to put in applications as our shot) Then low and behold-
This mornings events happen and the forums blow up once again. Now the linkshell is stuck on a server that I can't even pronounce the name :(
I can at least say I'm thankful no one made the jump right away. I feel for the multiple linkshells who have already made the jump going 4/15 or 12/16 and so far and for those who were forced to move to Ragnarok after realizing their linkshell as a whole didn't make it even when all applying literally within the hour of applications going live.
:( I'm sorry I feel for you~
Conclusion: When forums blow up- make sure to state your opinion. Even if you think it won't affect you in the end. And I apologize to anyone who supported method #4 and spoke out applauding it. I should have as well at the time. -
03-02-2012, 02:44 AMNikitaLol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xianghua
An estimated 20,000 people subscribe to this game. If what you are claiming is true, the majority of players would be against every change proposed.
Don't claim to know things you obviously don't. -
03-02-2012, 02:44 AMRokien
I spoke up, I wanted #4 to happen.
though, I'm not complaining about this one.
People got what they wanted.... AGAIN. -
03-02-2012, 03:15 AMVassteel
whats this post about i didnt read op's TL;DR
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03-02-2012, 03:23 AMCoombah
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03-02-2012, 08:41 AMTheFatHousecat
While I do agree with the OP; rather than ask people who were silent to speak up, I would stress more so that the people who were most vocal should have maybe realized that they don't speak for the entire population of the game, and consider their decisions more wisely :I
Not that option #2 affects me in any way, but I did try to post why I thought #4 was a better option and argue that case, it's just difficult when you have an angry mob posting back at you.
More than anything, I would advise SE to not take everything the forums shout back to heart. Especially last-minute, unofficial polls with minuscule voter turnouts.
Also: Coombah you stole our sig :c