Request: Please add more incentives for Mentor Roulette

The rewards for Mentor roulette are kind of pitiful... Even just adding a Cracked Cluster for being an Adventurer In Need for Mentor Roulette would help a ton.
As it is, I don't really have a reason to do it other than helping players out. I love helping people, but I would like to get rewarded for my assistance.
There probably won't be anything done, but I'm just throwing my two cents out there.

Personally I think the mentor roulette tome rewards should be dynamic and match the content. Get Bismarck HM, trial roulette rewards. Get LotA, alliance roulette rewards. Dusk Vigil, leveling roulette rewards, etc. Right now the mentor roulette rewards are stupidly low and it's very annoying to spend 45 minutes in Dun Scaith only to leave with fewer tomes than a 5 minute trial roulette.

I get the idea of helping people being its own reward, but come on. 30/10 is insultingly low.

I think it'd encourage the loot grabbing crowd too much.I see so many people running around with the mount just to show off- no wanting to help players included.

I would also like to see the daily limitation on the tomes removed - since the mento roulette isnt meant to be used to cap in the first place, I dont see why the daily limit should apply here.

It would also be nice to get points counting towards your achievement if a vote abondon passes after a certain amount of time has elapased OR if the duty-timer runs out. I've been in ARR-Ex-primal parties who learned a lot, progressed a lot, yet they didnt manage to get the kill in the end. And sure, its a nice feeling to walk away from an hour of sweat and tears, knowing that 7 other people have at least a better understanding of the fight... but besides that you get NOTHING to show for it.

I'd also like to see either flat out new rewards for commendations OR a second commendation-system that is tied to commendations you earn as a mentor using the mentor roulette. That would also work as an incentive to be a good/proper mentor.

The issue with having more rewards for Mentor Roulette, is that it's already too easy to become a Mentor so you get people who end up doing the Roulette for the rewards, irregardless of if they care about helping others actually learn or not.

Until they can make it so that becoming a Mentor is only possible by people who are willing and able to aid others, having more rewards will just have a negative effect by drawing more selfish players to do it just for the rewards (Including just leaving if they end up in a duty that they don't like, such as difficult content)

While it's easy to get mentor status, getting the roulette unlocked requires that you're current with all of the latest non-progression content. So someone with a 70 crafter won't necessarily have the roulette unlocked unless they've also cleared through Wreath of Snakes and Orbonne.

I mean the mentor Roulette does have an achievement to aim towards, completing 2000 runs nets you a 2 seater mount, which are not that easy to obtain to begin with. So there is that, but I feel that should be more rewards for putting up with it if a player decides to complete so many to begin with. Regardless of what roulette it is, players may go there for the reward with little intention of helping anyway so I don't think this is limited to Mentor.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Wilford111

As it is, I don't really have a reason to do it other than helping players out.

---

That's honestly the sole purpose SE intended. They wanted people who wanted to help to use it and not people who wanted to be rewarded for it. Even though it has achievements they purposely made the number of runs prohibitive to dissuade people from doing it just for rewards.

If you're a mentor for any reason other than for helping people, then you shouldn't be a mentor. That's why we already have so many terrible ones - because they want the mount and the crown.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn

If you're a mentor for any reason other than for helping people, then you shouldn't be a mentor. That's why we already have so many terrible ones - because they want the mount and the crown.

---

I was going to say almost exactly this. If greater incentives will get more people to do mentor roulettes, all you're going to get is greedy, selfish people who want it for the rewards and not to just help people. There should be no loot or rewards for being a mentor honestly, except maybe a title or something. Most mentors can't even spell altruism, let alone know what it means.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn

If you're a mentor for any reason other than for helping people, then you shouldn't be a mentor. That's why we already have so many terrible ones - because they want the mount and the crown.

---

I was going to say something similar, but reading through the OP's post... a Cracked Cluster, sure why not.

I don't think similar rewards to a regular dungeon/trial is too much, no one will do it just for the rewards when a Normal roulette wont chuck them into Titan EX or something. If you help others willingly you deserve a small "thank you". The biggest issue is the mount imo. There are definitely people who are basically using Mentor Roulette as a rare mount farm. I've heard people openly state "I want to unlock Mentor Roulette so I can get the mount".

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

I was going to say something similar, but reading through the OP's post... a Cracked Cluster, sure why not.

I don't think similar rewards to a regular dungeon/trial is too much, no one will do it just for the rewards when a Normal roulette wont chuck them into Titan EX or something. If you help others willingly you deserve a small "thank you". The biggest issue is the mount imo. There are definitely people who are basically using Mentor Roulette as a rare mount farm. I've heard people openly state "I want to unlock Mentor Roulette so I can get the mount".

---

I'm not so much against the cracked cluster, "adventurer in need" for trials does much of the same, doesn't it? I don't mind this because there are other ways to get the same items, which aren't all as time-consuming, so it's a good "thank you", as you said.

My problem comes, as mentioned, with the mount and the other items folks suggested - when this is the only Way To Get A Thing, then people will do it to Get A Thing, not to Do The Thing. And when The Thing requires patience, knowledge, and good sportsmanship to actually be successful and you're shoving folks into it who just want to Get A Thing, well...

You get the current mentor system.

No, not all mentors are bad. But not all mentors are good, either.

Do mentor roulette because you genuinely want to help new people. Not for some in game reward. I'm actually against adding anything else to it because it would attract the wrong type of people into running that roulette.

I think the only silly thing isn't the amount of rewards is so low... they could keep it as it but the daily limit shouldn't exist.

Now the main reason why they probably have the daily limit is to try to eliminate the people who only run for the rewards and don't want to help people. Problem is due to the nature of how the mentor roulette works even those who genuinely want to help probably don't do more than one run a day.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Wiccan026

I think the only silly thing isn't the amount of rewards is so low... they could keep it as it but the daily limit shouldn't exist.

Now the main reason why they probably have the daily limit is to try to eliminate the people who only run for the rewards and don't want to help people. Problem is due to the nature of how the mentor roulette works even those who genuinely want to help probably don't do more than one run a day.

---

Honestly I'd say on a given day it probably boils down to what type of people you get matched with. If you get matched with new people that actually want to learn its quite enjoyable. When you get matched with those people with no interest in getting better and have that "you don't pay my sub" attitude, you just don't feel like queueing it again that day.

My major complaint with mentor roulette is all of the rewards are the same, yet the difficulty in clearing content, especially with new and often times, blindly entering a fight, players. A completion of an extreme primal counts the same as clearing Cape Westwind or the level 10 guildhest. The work put forth in teaching players the encounter is woefully not the same. Even worse is when you queue in to a progress EX, wait around, and when you get another mentor, they complain they got this fight and pressure new people to use the party finder. While getting EX trials with new players is a mixed bag (it's frustrating getting players that can't seem to understand what a tank swap is when you sit down and try to explain it like they were a 5-year-old or to NOT stand with the party when you have Searing Wind), something about trying to force them to use party finder just feels... wrong?

As it is, people that want the rewards do things like time queues during dead hours in mentor with someone who will run the level 10 guildhests. I know of someone who did 2,000 completed roulettes in two weeks with this method and another that did in just under a month.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by UserHere

That's honestly the sole purpose SE intended. They wanted people who wanted to help to use it and not people who wanted to be rewarded for it. Even though it has achievements they purposely made the number of runs prohibitive to dissuade people from doing it just for rewards.

---

Sorry to tell you, but the Mentor roulette is mainly for filling queues.