Could square revive fates?

I'm a super casual player, I sub on and off of the game so I'm unaware of the need for fates at endgame.

However, I would love if square somehow brought fates back alive for levelling classes. Just thinking back in ARR where there would always be so many people in northern than farming fates... was just good old fashioned fun!

If they gave them a blanket buff yeah, but right now there's just way more efficient methods of levelling

I wish SE would enliven the open world in any fashion. It used to be so much fun with erryone runnin about doin stuff. Now we all sit in the cities or at our houses between doin things, it's lame.

I would think SE would need to give them a buff so rxp rates were equivalent to PotD/HoH or maybe a little bit extra exp. I think the issue is when the difference of exp is large that some leveling rates die. Probably would need to give FATES a bit exp since dungeons and HoH gives you rewards while FATES generally do not give extra rewards, only exp.

Time ago I suggested the idea of a FATE log, which probably would make players to do FATEs and revive the old ones (maybe it would revive even Diadem xD). http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...83960-FATE-log

The thing is, everyone kept screaming loudly about having to do FATEs in the open-world for Relic and Anima weapons, so they made Eureka. Now people only do FATEs in Eureka zones.

I actually kinda miss the ARR days when every major zone was rife with people running the various FATEs. Quarrymill and Coerthas have been forever etched into memory because of FATE spamming. The greatest thing about them was that if I only had 5 minutes to play before I had to do something else, FATEs were a great way of getting xp real quick (and it's really simple to drop them entirely to go do something else). Being locked into more time consuming dungeons (leveling, potd, etc.) is kinda meh in comparison.

Fates are rather worthless right now unless you are using the new stone currency for crafting mats or trying to get specific achievements. The xp and gil rewards are laughable. 115 gil for completing a level 75 fate? Seriously? Make them more rewarding so you don't feel like you are punishing yourself by doing a fate instead of a dungeon.

I would welcome a return of the old FATE farming parties. They were actually enjoyable in ARR 2.X. However, I think we would need new additions of them with greater variety for a less tedious experience.

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Maybe if they tied more things to the FATEs similar to what they did with a couple steps in the relic quests in ARR and kind of revisted with the Bozjan ones now that use fates in HW areas. They are a decent source of EXP to do while waiting for duty queues if you're leveling a DPS class. We all know healer and tank will just instaqueue >.> lol

The game is plagued with enough inflation as it is due to the severe lack of gil sinks to take it out of circulation. We don't need to make the problem worse by making them hand out more gil.

Personally, I would rather do open world content for levelling. Not just for high end levelling content but from lv1-90. Fates are lacking to provide a good amount experience points and enjoyment for my time. Having daily FATEs in which certain FATEs spawn on specific days or randomly switch from one day to another would be an improvement to the open world. I want to form parties of up to 8 players to do these, though. Just no incentives for joining parties.

I wouldn't mind a reputation grind like Beastman rep. Each leve already has a client faction, so just give out +rep with the client faction as a reward. Then in the cities have rep merchants that offer goodies after reaching a certain rep threshold, like beastman.

Borrowing mechanics from Bozja/Zadnor for FATEs, including spawning CE's that will scale to number of people participating would be a great thing.

It would not only revive FATEs, it would also save "S" rank mob encounters from being one-shots, if they scaled properly in enclosed CE.

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Originally Posted by RylaBee

Borrowing mechanics from Bozja/Zadnor for FATEs, including spawning CE's that will scale to number of people participating would be a great thing.

It would not only revive FATEs, it would also save "S" rank mob encounters from being one-shots, if they scaled properly in enclosed CE.

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This would be awesome. They'd just have to make sure to scale level and gear just like the FATEs when the "CE" popped.

They could try adding random experience bonuses and the maiden mechanic to pre-Stormblood expansions; that might help a lot.

Yeah, they improved on FATES in different ways for Eureka, Bozja, and the Shadowbringers MSQ zones. Using that as a template or inspiration for ARR and HW zones and even to jump up StB zones would be great for those who like FATES, but there may not be enough players who do to warrant the resources to do such updates.

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Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar

The thing is, everyone kept screaming loudly about having to do FATEs in the open-world for Relic and Anima weapons, so they made Eureka. Now people only do FATEs in Eureka zones.

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As someone that is currently doing exactly that I can say...

That Fates are a goddamn Cancer that need to be expunged from the game. I'm not saying that this game would be better without them because I don't even begin to know what it would look like, but nothing gets my blood boiling more than going into Eureka only to be exactly 5 seconds away from the Fate just winking out in my face. Or entering a zone only to find the Fate you're looking for at 80% completion and now you're gonna have to grind a bunch of garbage you don't need just to get the ONE Fate you need to spawn.

Tying objective reward to Fates like all of Eureka/Bozja makes me want to purge the very IDEAS of Fate. Hell, even Fêtes are superior in the sense that they at least get a set time independent of the ammount of things you do for it.

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Originally Posted by qqmoarploxify

I'm a super casual player, I sub on and off of the game so I'm unaware of the need for fates at endgame.

However, I would love if square somehow brought fates back alive for levelling classes. Just thinking back in ARR where there would always be so many people in northern than farming fates... was just good old fashioned fun!

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Issue has been solved in ShadowBringer/Endwalker patch. Added rewards through Bi-color gemstones.