You are supposed to get a free vial of Fantasia after having completed lvl 50 quest - The Ultimate Weapon. This is an item that EVERYONE receives for FREE when they complete this quest, EVERYONE except someone who PAID for a Tales of Adventure. So if you PAY to advance in the game, you will not get this FREE item that everyone is supposed to receive. Please tell me where, during your purchase of Tales of Adventure does it state that you will not be receiving a free vial of fantasia? Why would you not give this free item to someone who has PAID EXTRA for your game?
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02-25-2019, 10:45 PMZeeDutchessNo free vial of Fantasia with purchase of Tales of Adventure!?!?!
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02-25-2019, 10:54 PMkidalutzQuote:
Originally Posted by ZeeDutchess
*cough* As I stated in the other post. When the fantasia was added to that duty the notes specifically said tales users would not get it nor anyone that had already completed it. Secondly the Tales purchase gives a pretty comprehensive read of what all it has to offer. -
02-25-2019, 10:54 PMMistakeNot
You get the Fantasia as a quest reward for completing The Ultimate Weapon. You paid to skip the quest - hence you haven't completed it.
You did not get any of the quest rewards for all the other quests you skipped did you? So why should this particular reward be different? -
02-25-2019, 11:03 PMZeeDutchess
These reasons you are giving me are not valid excuses. After having spent over 200$ on this game in a matter of 2 months, for a customer that paid EXTRA and to not receive something that is free for other players is unacceptable.
They should write it on the PURCHASE PAGE of the item. -
02-25-2019, 11:04 PMZeeDutchessWe are talking about an item that is worth 10$ in real money.Quote:
You get the Fantasia as a quest reward for completing The Ultimate Weapon. You paid to skip the quest - hence you haven't completed it.
You did not get any of the quest rewards for all the other quests you skipped did you? So why should this particular reward be different?
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02-25-2019, 11:12 PMAlteriiusSpending more does not entitle you to things you didn't pay for. The purchase page outlines what you're getting and it never once suggests that you'll recieved rewards for quests you never did.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeeDutchess
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02-25-2019, 11:14 PMMistakeNotSo? Doesn't change the fact that it is a quest reward, and that it is handled just like all other quest rewards.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeeDutchess
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02-25-2019, 11:44 PMAylisIt's common knowledge and sense to anyone that's ever used or thought of using any kinda skip service that the game is not going to dump 100+ quests worth of rewards into everyone's inventories. You get what you need to go on from there in the games story and progression. That's all, nothing more. How much you spent on a game is a moot point. This is how skip services function. No matter if it's here or in any game that offers them. Also no, not everyone got it "for free". You paid with a swipe to skip it all, they paid for it with their time and put in the work to get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeeDutchess
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02-25-2019, 11:48 PMZeeDutchessA 10$ quest reward. I will have to spend an extra 10$, WHEN I HAVE ALREADY PAID 20$, when other players get it for free. What is the logic behind this?Quote:
Originally Posted by MistakeNot
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02-25-2019, 11:50 PMServerCollapsother players spent 100 hours to complete the story, which you just skipped .. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ZeeDutchess
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02-25-2019, 11:51 PMLegion88
This shows everything you get with your story skip and the link to this side is in the mogry store before you purchase the story skip.
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02-25-2019, 11:53 PMworldofneilI can only repeat what others have already said. You get it for completing the quest. You skipped the quest.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeeDutchess
Sorry, but that's just how it is.
$200 in 2 months? Even if you bought the "Complete" version of the game, that's a still a lot more. How much skipping did you do?!Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeeDutchess
But anyway, the Tales of Adventure doesn't say it comes with a Fantasia, you assumed that.
It tells you everything you get. It's far simpler to write what you do get and not a huge list of everything you don't. -
02-26-2019, 12:02 AMMistakeNotThe logic is that it is treated just the same as all other quest rewards. Treating it otherwise is what would be illogical. How much you paid or did not pay for something else is frankly irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeeDutchess
And it is not true that all other players get it for free - only those who did the quest The Ultimate Weapon after patch 4.1 got a Fantasia that way. As did those players who had qualified for a Fantasia potion as a veteran reward prior to patch 4.1. -
02-26-2019, 12:08 AMZeeDutchessMy friend got me the skip, (and I also got one for another friend). I was lvl 43 when I skipped to 50, I would have done those damn 7 lvls of main quest if I would have known.Quote:
Originally Posted by ServerCollaps
My point is that it would be nice to have any sort of heads up along the lines of "BY THE WAY, this 20$ that you are spending to skip will not include the 10$ potion that other players get without paying" -
02-26-2019, 05:59 AMEldevernYou skipped for 7 levels? ô_ÒQuote:
Originally Posted by ZeeDutchess
Why on earth did you decided to skip for only 7 levels?
I wouldn't sound cruel but... you can make 5 to 7 levels a week only with daily roulettes (talking for myself only with the levelling one and guild hest -with help of challenge log, to be fair- it works for my alts), if you add a few MSQ you can even go faster (but ok MSQ is time-consuming, then 5/7 levels is probably a maximum). If you were 43 and the up to date MSQ you probably had the trial roulette available too...
You would have made a better use creating an alt and skiping the whole 50 levels. -
02-26-2019, 07:27 AMlinayHe's talking about 7 levels of MSQ from 43-50 including all the 2.x level 50 quests. He is complaining about the use of the MSQ skip potion, not job level boost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldevern
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02-26-2019, 07:29 AMhydralusI hope you informed your friend that it won't give you the fantasia after learning it yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeeDutchess
As an aside, the product page explicitly says that included in the package are the tales of adventure book, silver chocobo feathers, and allagan platinum pieces. If a quest reward isn't mentioned as being part of the purchase then it's safe to assume you don't get those. I understand it can be frustrating to feel cheated but it's far easier to list what you will get, rather than what you won't get.
Edit: Oh dear, you've made multiple threads about this. -
02-26-2019, 07:32 AMPaladinleedsI think you get the quest rewards that are unique to that quest that you can't get on mog station (or failing that it might be in the calamity salvager). But the logic is SE don't want to give you the Fantasia. In fact, if you're paying for a story skip, they're gonna want to milk you for another $10, and I don't blame them. Business 101. If you want a fantasia that badly, go to the mog shop. Personally for you I'd make fantasia cost $100'000'000 each.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeeDutchess
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02-26-2019, 07:54 AMksuyenI saw similiar posts, how many of these you made? :rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by ZeeDutchess
Anyway, the logic behind this is pretty straightforward. Level boost is $20 but it is OPTIONAL. You pay to skip the contents for up to level 50 and gain the three items that the website listed: level boost, 300gils and accessories. Anything outside of those three items, including EVERY rewards from all the quests up to level 50, are excluded. Simple as that. People who got it for free play for hours to complete the quest, which is how it should be. A level boost is just a level boost, it does not mean you actually did all the quests.
What I can see here is greediness and a sense of entitlement. -
02-26-2019, 08:47 AMLilMightBeACannibal
how many of these posts are you going to make
legitimate question, i need to know how much more tea i should brew -
02-26-2019, 09:03 AMwereotterYou paid for it with money, they paid for it with time. Time gives greater rewards since Square ultimately gets more out of that player. Additionally, you paid for exactly what was outlined in the item description, not that plus all the quest rewards from all the skipped quests. I can't imagine having to sit through making choices for every single quest that offered multiple rewards and pick options just because you chose to skip ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeeDutchess
Rather than give you a whole backlog of rewards, they simply outlined what you would receive for using the item. Sorry it's disappointing, but you weren't mislead in this regard. If they didn't say you would get something, then you shouldn't expect you will anyway. -
02-26-2019, 09:17 AMInkstainedGwyn
I mean. I make $35 per hour, so I'd say spending $20 for ~50-100 hours of quest time skipped is worth it even without the $10 Fantasia.
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02-26-2019, 12:32 PMDestati
To be fair, didn't the Fantasia offered at the end of the quest use to be associated with the old Veteran Rewards system? To digress a bit those who have been grandfathered into the new system can get two free Fantasias if I'm thinking correctly - one sent through the mogmail along with their other rewards and another by completing the quest. So technically they can still walk away with at least one free Fantasia even if they skip. That being said I believe that the free potion should be tied to an achievement instead that's earned upon completion of The Ultima Weapon and can be redeemed from Jonathas so players using the skip potion can still receive it.
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02-26-2019, 03:02 PMVahlnirI'll be honest, if people pay to skip content then they should get what they pay for...the skip. Nothing else. They should get only what is needed (gear, achievements associated with the quests skipped, etc) and be sent on their way through whatever content they are supposed to do. If they tied the "free" fantasia to an achievement I truly wouldn't care. I just think that things are fine as they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destati
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02-26-2019, 03:05 PMGeigerette
You paid to skip the quests and the quest rewards. You don't get to pick and chose the rewards of the quests you skipped because you simply skipped the entire experience and it is the way it is regardless of how much you paid to play this game in two months!
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02-26-2019, 03:24 PMAeloria
The fantasia you are griping about used to be locked behind time spent veteran reward and later baked into a quest when the veteran reward system was changed up. Either way it is earned through time spent playing the game. You paid for an item that very clearly states what is included in the purchase. Just because you lack basic reading comprehension doesn't make SE some bad guy or give you the right to make multiple threads on this issue. You sir need to take a long hard look at your behavior and maybe you need to take a breather because if you are getting this worked up over a stupid fantasia gods knows what else you might get worked up about.
There are countless quest rewards that can potentially have value to the player but when you skip doing those quests you don't get to reap the reward from those quests. You have to decide for yourself what is worth more to you time or money. -
02-26-2019, 05:29 PMEldevernI understand perfectly what he said but... skipping 7 level (and MSQ) and complaining for a fantasia when the best rate time/money/fantasia was to create a brand new character, this is the point (the "logic") I don't get. That's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by linay
The only reason that might explain this is to keep his player name and/or event rewards (but if he was 43 and wanted to skip he probably have very few event rewards). -
02-26-2019, 06:41 PMlinayOk, because you were saying that he "can make 5 to 7 levels a week only with daily roulettes," which wouldn't make any sense when talking about MSQ levels. Doing roulettes wouldn't advance you in MSQ unless you happen to be in the part of MSQ that requires a duty and you get that duty in the roulette.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldevern
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02-26-2019, 07:51 PMKaedan
Multiple people have explained in several different ways why your complaint isn't valid, OP (their points are, however, despite what you think).
In addition, if you're talking about what people "paid"... well, those of us who didn't skip the quests paid a LOT MORE than what you did for the skip potion, in both cost of game and monthly fees.
But that's besides the point, as you're special pleading. You don't mention one word about all the other quest items you "didn't get" from "paying" SE. And you clearly understand that it was never the intention of the skip potion to get those rewards. Thus, there is no logical reason you should get the fantasia either... as it is a quest reward. -
02-26-2019, 08:02 PMRicaRuin
A friend of mine was not subscribed long enough to get the Fantasia as a Veteran reward, but she completed the Ultima Quest before it was added as a reward. Should she cry now as well?
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02-26-2019, 08:24 PMCrushnightsee i would be more inclined to believe SE would help your friend over OP due to your friend never having the option to get that fantasia in the 1st place due to the changes they made and how they take sub money, has your friend(if they were bothered about this) asked about this to gms/customer support?Quote:
Originally Posted by RicaRuin
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02-26-2019, 08:31 PMRicaRuinNo, she accepted that she didn't fulfill the condition to get the Fantasia via Veteran reward since she hadn't been subscribed long enough, and for not getting it via Ultima, she called it some bad luck to have completed before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crushnight
Anyway, my point is that there are more people who didn't get a Fantasia like you. But since you really seem to want one, just buy it, then. -
02-26-2019, 08:42 PMCrushnightThats a shame glad to see it didn't sour things for them hopefully nothing like that happens again in the futureQuote:
Originally Posted by RicaRuin
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02-26-2019, 08:46 PMJandorWhy would you need it? If you go 1-50 the old fashioned way you might have time to get sick of your character, but how are you bored of them already if you just blasted to 50+ overnight?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeeDutchess
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02-26-2019, 08:46 PMAnnaRosaMan can finance your fantasia if you calm down you will get in time to make your character full on viera male, also You are allowed to have 8 different characters in same server and many others spread on other servers per account.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeeDutchess
Altho honestly male Roegadyn is the cutest race for male in game.