What would you like to see in the 5.0 healer quest-lines?

This isn't a mechanical discussion. I mainly mean what would you like to see story wise. In 4.0 we met a new Faerie as a scholar, discovered a child padjal as a white mage, and quelled the wrath of an enraged forest guardian as an astralogian.

Personally I'd love to see more of an in depth exploration on how Nymia incorporated Faeries into their Arcanima.

I'd also love a scene placed specifically to let people know that their companion is named Lily and Not Eos or Selene >.>' Like seriously just have a marauder come in and mistake her name and have Alka, and Surito sternly correct them.

That and let us go back to the wandering palace to visit our Fish Baby friends ;3;

For SCH, I wouldn't mind a deviation from the Alka + Tonberry Nymian story. Like, the new expansion has Pixies including the primal Titania right? So, what if it happens that Pixie magic is similar to that of the Nym and we can go learn some stuff from the Pixies after they notice our Fairy and befriend us :3

For WHM... There's a new Forest zone right? What if that means another Elemental guardian who feels threatened by our arrival and we have to calm them down and help a Padjal get set up to be able to communicate with it.

AST... I have no idea really. As long as it isn't another lame story about some idiot and his Geomancy who keeps having problems that are solved with "Have you tried turning it off and back on again Astrology?"

If I ever see that annoying girl from WHM questline I'm gonna shove my staff down her throat.

AST 60-70 was a bit lame but it was enjoyable, that's where I got familiar with Kugane and noticed a bit more of its details. I'd like to see more job quests with this concept.

I have no memory of SCH, other than the quests in Amdapor... and I can't say I enjoyed them although the Nym story is one of the most interesting ones.

AST 70-80 could include Urianger and his new job as Astrologian.

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Originally Posted by Kalise

AST... I have no idea really. As long as it isn't another lame story about some idiot and his Geomancy who keeps having problems that are solved with "Have you tried turning it off and back on again Astrology?"

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That's...a surprisingly accurate re-telling of the SB AST story, yeah. I got a good laugh.

I want SCH to have more storyline around being an actual battle tactician. Let us show off our cosmic SCH brains, SE!

WHM: Something other than taming a rage. Can they age NPCs? Sylphie's not a Padjal. She can't stay 14 forever.

SCH: Saruto always seems to be keeping something from us. I want to know what that is.

AST: The annoyance of the NPCs from these quests only come second to Oboro from the NIN questline. I like leveva though and curious if she grows her hair back out. Yes, I am more interested in her hair than the questline.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

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I can't say I've noticed anything from Surito. Which instances does he seem to be hiding something? Also yeah I hate the ast quest-lines in general. Who knew that angering a forest guardian by building a port on it's home could possibly be a bad idea?

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Originally Posted by Gemina

WHM: Can they age NPCs? Sylphie's not a Padjal. She can't stay 14 forever.

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I'd love the WHM quest to tackle the eternal loli dilemma.

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Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow

I can't say I've noticed anything from Surito. Which instances does he seem to be hiding something?

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One example is during the time he lets us know how the tonberries came to look the way they do, and then proceeds to ask us something along the lines of, "You haven't noticed anything.. different about you, have you?" instead of just flat out expressing a concern if we have been inflicted with the same magicks that led them to their fate. Every time I talk with him, it just seems like he knows more than what he tells. Like he only gives us the information we need to know, and not what we want to know. Much about the Nymian arts, SCH and their faeries are still shrouded in mystery, and they can definitely open this up more in 5.0.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

I like leveva though and curious if she grows her hair back out.

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As a twintail enthusiast, so much yes to this. lol..

Whm: Help guide an elemental to be able to protect its home

Sch: go into nym's past how it came about learning its pool of magic and the fairy's origin bonus points if includes the pixies

Ast: Focus back on Leveva and the sharlayan side of astromancy how does the minor arcana interact with the major arcana within its teachings any other star constelations that might hold power for as ast?

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Originally Posted by Gemina

One example is during the time he lets us know how the tonberries came to look the way they do, and then proceeds to ask us something along the lines of, "You haven't noticed anything.. different about you, have you?" instead of just flat out expressing a concern if we have been inflicted with the same magicks that led them to their fate. Every time I talk with him, it just seems like he knows more than what he tells. Like he only gives us the information we need to know, and not what we want to know. Much about the Nymian arts, SCH and their faeries are still shrouded in mystery, and they can definitely open this up more in 5.0.

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Hm that still needs some context since Surito becomes overtly concerned that we would turn into tonberries after coming in contact with the source of the disease. Lore wise we do know how faeries originated. They were initially familiars used as messengers between ships. It was only after their ability to heal was discovered that the practice of Nymian arcanima changed into a healer's position. Even the marauders in one of the previous questlines questioned whether or not the Faeries were tied to tonberries. Since they're literally the source of our healing I doubt they would also be the real source of the disease.

Something that is different from previous. As a WHM, no, I don't want more rage-tame, 'this tree/elemental is mad', or angsty pre-teens trying to find themselves. As an AST, no, I don't want to have to run from one corner of Kugane to another to speak to some pleb about how using an AST shield on a rune is the best thing since Eorzean bread. As a SCH... No idea, not levelling that beyond 30 unless the mood takes me.

In short, break the normal formula now that we're hitting Shadowbringers > something darker and less shmaltzy that questions the light we are wielding. Actually heal some legitimate devastation in the face of an impending cataclysm, or using our power to remedy some of the pain wrought by the war with the empire. Something appropriate. If it's going to be more goody-two-shoes or more all-out tree-hugging, I'm going to skip dialogue and cut-scenes and focus on just unlocking new skills rather than any kind of lore gratification. I don't dislike that sort of thing - it just gets overbearing when they all boil down to the same thing over and over. Darker expansion, darker themes. Being a Healer doesn't have to always be about shiny-shiny-feel-good. Something needs to be harmed in order to heal, after all.

In general, i wouldn't be opposed to a questline that made you use your abilities to solve a problem. Not so much "heal person X" but use your knockback spell to Drive back enemy forces, or Use your area Damage over time spell to whittle away at these stones."cryptic" clues, which to anyone who knows the job, would understand, but someone who just picks the job up would need to invest a little thought into.

As for White mage, we could help build something with our Stone and water spells making a mud Structure or sorts to help a beastmen tribe or something.

Its kinda out there, but breaks away from the mold a bit.

WHM: A reference to the all WHM run of FFI, totally recking undead and Chaos.

It's like a super famous meme, maybe I missed it, but I don't remember a reference.

SCH: Setting up a fancy school, where I get to be headmistress and wear a librarian outfit with stern megane.

AST: Meh, I don't play it.

DNC: A CS where I save somebody by kicking them back to life with my sick dance moves.