Suggestions: Auto pass/greed loot

Quick suggestion as I just finished Monastery - there are many of us who just want to auto pass on all loot, or auto pass after they've already received a piece of loot that's 1 per character or 1 per week etc (since you can't actually need/greed on those anyway, not sure why they don't just auto pass for you in that case).

Another one being.. I had a 2 WHM, 2 SCH, and 2 AST healer group in that Monastery run. Would be nice to either be able to re-sort while in the instance, or just have a better randomising system so that we don't get so many duplicate groups. Alternatively, though I imagine this would be more difficult to implement, allowing us to change jobs within the dungeon/raid (within the DPS/healer/tank role that we originally queued as) as long as the ilevel requirements are met. It can get pretty frustrating when you've got three separate parties within a 24m raid with different duplicates in each one!

I really think that the distribution of classes in 24man should be better. I mean, once my alliance was almost full bards, while the rest of the alliances had at most two bards. :c I get that sometimes people queue with friends and such but I don't think that most cases of pre-made parties make these extremes.
Of course that it shouldn't delay the queue for some or make people unable to join, if there's no way to help with the dupes that's okay, but at least some sort of conscious distribution would be nice.

I would sell my thumbs for some updates to the loot allotment system:

1) Just a pass all button. I don't even want need/greed, because at that point I'm at least considering the items. I just hate being the last to pass and being stuck with worthless items.
2) If an item is already guaranteed to a player, it shouldn't go through the whole 250+ seconds because someone who won't get it anyway hasn't rolled. I.e. if an item can be needed on by BRD/MCH and one BRD has needed and the other has passed, then it shouldn't matter what the BLM rolls because they aren't going to get it anyway.

Too many players skip rolling on loot because they think it's a way to keep them from being vote kicked.

I hit pass on pretty much everything that doesn't involve current content, so having the ability to just cut out the hassle and have it default to clicking the button for me would be a relief.

1. Auto pass when you're not eligable to need or greed the item would be great.
2. Only put items in your inventory if you hit need or greed, no putting it into the last peron's inventory by default. Make someone click greed first.
3. Pass All button.

I think these three would be good.

I think the auto pass should mostly happen on unique and untradable minions and mounts that you already have like the 24 man minions and primal and 8 man raid mounts.

Random nitpick here...

Make it so people cant lot need on things their class can equip but are below or inferior to the current gear they are using. Its rather annoying when doing things to either gear another job because that job doesn't meet entry requirements and people just auto click need on anything that gives them the option.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Random nitpick here...

Make it so people cant lot need on things their class can equip but are below or inferior to the current gear they are using. Its rather annoying when doing things to either gear another job because that job doesn't meet entry requirements and people just auto click need on anything that gives them the option.

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Only if the person who can't need on said gear receives alternative loot to roll or an equivalent type of reward. I'll repeat this as many times as it takes: you cannot downplay someone's effort simply because you have more need of a gear.

And now about the topic itself: I would also like the feature and for it to go one step further: when orchestrions drop, have an icon displaying if you already have it in your possession. Sometimes I roll on it just because I can't remember if I already have it or not.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

Only if the person who can't need on said gear receives alternative loot to roll or an equivalent type of reward. I'll repeat this as many times as it takes: you cannot downplay someone's effort simply because you have more need of a gear.

And now about the topic itself: I would also like the feature and for it to go one step further: when orchestrions drop, have an icon displaying if you already have it in your possession. Sometimes I roll on it just because I can't remember if I already have it or not.

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You do realize a majority of those people either vendor it for a handful of gil or just feed it to the GC for seals and are joining the duty primarily for a different reason or to get gear for a class they aren't currently playing as well?

You claim I'm downplaying their effort? Where do I say anything of the sort? Seriously your response makes me wonder if you're one of the people I referred to that immediately hit need on anything that presents the button to you unless a weekly lockout actually forces you to make a decision on what you actually want.

This. I can't tell you how many times I like to stay after and either chat or explore and I have to wast time passing on 6+ items or tokens that I don't want.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

You do realize a majority of those people either vendor it for a handful of gil or just feed it to the GC for seals and are joining the duty primarily for a different reason or to get gear for a class they aren't currently playing as well?

You claim I'm downplaying their effort? Where do I say anything of the sort? Seriously your response makes me wonder if you're one of the people I referred to that immediately hit need on anything that presents the button to you unless a weekly lockout actually forces you to make a decision on what you actually want.

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So? I need seals to get materials for our FC. If I win the RNG fair and square, why do I deserve my goal less than you do?

They went through this with "greed only" and it failed them, hard. They won't go back.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

You do realize a majority of those people either vendor it for a handful of gil or just feed it to the GC for seals and are joining the duty primarily for a different reason or to get gear for a class they aren't currently playing as well?

You claim I'm downplaying their effort? Where do I say anything of the sort? Seriously your response makes me wonder if you're one of the people I referred to that immediately hit need on anything that presents the button to you unless a weekly lockout actually forces you to make a decision on what you actually want.

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I was making a statement. When I'm in group content, unless anyone says anything, I can't assume they need the gear more than I do. Removing the ability to roll just on the premise alone (meaning excluding if the other player really needs that piece of gear) that the system detects the gear I wear is superior to the loot that is dropped is not a fair system because I'm spending just as much time as the next person clearing the content. And since the system isn't psychic to guess players wants and needs, that would mean the system would priotize those same people even if they don't care about what's being dropped. I haven't even scratched the surface with glamour runs players have. I guess at least in PF, you could put it as setting...which incidentally called Lootmaster. But a DF run where no one knows anyone's need unless spoken? No, just no.

That's what I mean by downplayed effort and that's why I also suggested that if such a system were in place, at the very least an alternative reward should be there for the player who has the better gear. Also, another suggestion would be guaranteed loot like we have for the SB leveling dgns. That way people still get what they want.

EDIT: Yes, I am one of those people who roll on anything. If no one's speaking up, I just assume it's fair game.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Random nitpick here...

Make it so people cant lot need on things their class can equip but are below or inferior to the current gear they are using. Its rather annoying when doing things to either gear another job because that job doesn't meet entry requirements and people just auto click need on anything that gives them the option.

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People will simply equip lower ilvl gear to be able to roll need, making runs harder.

Plus even if you are well geared you might want a lower ilvl item for glamour, or to equip another job who need different stats (like wanting a spellspeed mage gear for blm while being on your rdm).

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Random nitpick here...

Make it so people cant lot need on things their class can equip but are below or inferior to the current gear they are using. Its rather annoying when doing things to either gear another job because that job doesn't meet entry requirements and people just auto click need on anything that gives them the option.

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Or you can ask if you can have said piece. Most people are happy to oblige.

Can we at least get an Option that Auto Pass on unique Items you already have in inventory.
Happens so damned often