[Suggestion] Condensed Inventory Items v2.0 (Materia, Dyes, Totems, etc)

A long time ago we had an update that gave us the currency tab change that took the beastmen currency away as items instead gave them their own place, I will call this v1.0. I think now is the time to go back over the inventory management system and give it a much needed overhaul, v2.0.

With the new expansion coming we are going to get flooded with a large number of new items, but I don't know if there has been any indication of more space or further inventory workarounds planned.

If we can't get our inventory/armoury chest/retainers expanded further why not go about it another way that seems more viable that will help alleviate the issue across multiple areas.

- Materia = 108 items, not even counting resistances.
- Dyes = 106 items
- Fishing Tackle = 62 items

These 3 for example can have their own special categories in the main menus given the fact that they have their own systems in place.

For example Fishing Tackle could go under Logs right below Fish Guide, call it "Tacklebox".

Materia and Dyes could go under Character, maybe below Blue Magic Spellbook since they wouldn't be a frequent thing to "look" at it. Something like Materia Collection and Dye Catalog.

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The next items to consider would be the Totems from the Extremes and I would additionally include the "Raid" upgrade materials. These two sets of items could be placed under Currency. Notice how there is space for 2 more categories in the Currency section? This could be "Trials" and "Raids".


The first step would be to change the graphic for the old HW totems to match the new SB totems since they are all literally the same thing except Thordans, then of course just give them an appropriate color palette. This should not be too hard for a professional artist.

For example:

https://i.imgur.com/I226MSU.png

This would save a pretty comparable amount of item space as the beastmen currency did.

Raids would be a little more complicated depending on how they do it, especially since it expanded into tokens and not just upgrade items.

https://i.imgur.com/kD0TY26.png

I got lazy and used the other tiers images but you get the idea. Page 2 would go into Stormblood and Shadowbringers OR they could have Normal page 1 to include the Precision type items and then page 2 can include Savage token items or whatever.

You can see how out of control the items have gotten over the years when there's two separate tiers of raids with tokens on top of upgrade items and then another token system on top of that that aren't even displayed there.


Even with all these things removed that still leaves weapons/armor which hopefully the glamour dresser can be increased a bit more and then of course crafting and other things which take up plenty of space.


So to me it seems reasonable to condense the inventory management system even further.

This needs more likes and comments!

I just started crafting and I quickly realized how little space our inventory is. This is badly needed.

Hm I'm not 100% sure about the raid tokens and upgrade items, at least for normal raids those tend to be collected and used up pretty quickly (except the latest tier that's locked to weekly). But for everything else... The trial totems do add up if you're going after them, as do the dyes and materia and well, there's a reason I'm not currently leveling fisher. >_>

Btw, nice work on the visuals!

I'm pretty sure during the Paris FanFest just gone they said they're working on, or adding, some new UI elements. They didn't detail anything specific, just that it's something being seen to for 5.0

So with any luck, your dream'll come true. Though yeah, I completely agree that item management like this should be a thing. Being 'that guy to compare', WoW did it remarkably well with their currencies and even condensed down a lot of the older crafting materials in the last 2 expansions.

This'd be a welcome change for sure.

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Originally Posted by noxen

I'm pretty sure during the Paris FanFest just gone they said they're working on, or adding, some new UI elements. They didn't detail anything specific, just that it's something being seen to for 5.0

So with any luck, your dream'll come true. Though yeah, I completely agree that item management like this should be a thing. Being 'that guy to compare', WoW did it remarkably well with their currencies and even condensed down a lot of the older crafting materials in the last 2 expansions.

This'd be a welcome change for sure.

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And then it turns out the new UI elements will just be an in-game access to the mogshop and you won't have to go to the site to spend your Crysta/money. >.>

Wow, I bet you're a blast at parties.

Yes, please. I need inv space badly. Full of crafting mats, upgrade items, totems, dyes. >< aaand I've already done spring cleaning 3 times. Looks like soon I'm going to have to, again.

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Originally Posted by noxen

Wow, I bet you're a blast at parties.

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I'd like to think i am; but do you really think that if SQE could inegrate the cash shop into an in-game launcher at some point, they wouldn't?
I'm not saying they're doing that, but SQE does have a track record of saying something, and then the final product of what they say is leagues away from what anyone thought they'd roll out; and let's be honest, doing a massive clean up of currency/etc means that everyone will be able to hold more inventory on their person and have less need for storage, and when SQE sells extra storage space through multiple avenues, just freeing it up probably won't be first on their to-do list.

I need this badly, especially for fishing. I have 1 tab almost completely dedicated to just tackle and bait, and there's only so much you can stuff into your choco saddlebag and retainers.

My god you're pessimistic and depressing to read.

If the services you outlined were pheesable they would have done it by now.

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Originally Posted by noxen

My god you're pessimistic and depressing to read.
If the services you outlined were pheesable they would have done it by now.

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Depressing? Perhaps to you, but it's not pessimism; it's accepting the fact that square isn't here to make a good game for me, they're here to sell me a product (which just happens to be a game i mostly enjoy). Retainers are also a product they want me to buy, as well as every mog shop items (multiple times if i want the food) and they want me to buy the premium service for the app to get more storage space. I accept all these facts, and play accordingly.

As for not being feasible, you're right. It probably isn't feasible for SQE right now with their framework.. but this was true of WoW too. The game didn't start with an in-game store to buy the mounts and pets.. but it got there eventually. I have no doubt SQE would want to do this too if they could..

Though, i have to say, you're acting a bit out of shape for what was intended as a snarky joke; Not that i'm acting much better right now, so i'll let you go on with your day.

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Originally Posted by frostmagemari

And then it turns out the new UI elements will just be an in-game access to the mogshop and you won't have to go to the site to spend your Crysta/money. >.>

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Honestly, that's good change if it also means the speed of getting the item is increased.

Honestly that UI looks cluttered but if they gave us another free retainer, chocobo saddle, or inventory page then some inventory problems will go away. Pages, tome upgrades are one use items and no one should be stockpiling those to 99 anyways. However totems and a tackle box for bait I do agree, need their own page or window. This is one of the reasons why I hate fishing and it's mostly to do with the bait taking up my inventory space. They should also remove resistance materia all together.

Not really sure about the rest of the stuff, but I'm all for having some kind of paint box that contains the plethura of dyes available in-game. Even if it's only accessible in certain locations like the Saddlebag, I'd still be fine with that.

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Originally Posted by zeth07

https://i.imgur.com/I226MSU.png


https://i.imgur.com/kD0TY26.png

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*Starts crying* It's so beautiful. Have all my likes. All of them /sob

I think one of the reasoning they gave at the time to why not such a system is that then they'd have to update it every time a new currency comes out. Which personally doesn't seem like an issue since they should have at least an idea of what's coming within the next expansion, and plan accordingly. And who knows, maybe if they need to take something like this into consideration, they won't be so fast to add a billion types of currency every other patch.
They can't even argue storage issues - say, with the current system you either have the totem of you don't, but for this system it'll always count it. But that doesn't have to be that way, either. They could only show what you have on-hand, with the lone drawback I can think of being that if you do have some spares, you can't get rid of them.
And that's before the fact the beast tribe system already utilizes this exact method, keeping track of whatever currency you unlocked regardless of if you have any or not.

I definitely agree on this system for Ex primal tokens. They're similar enough to beast tribe currency that I think it should have been added a long time ago. At the very minimum, current expac primals should be on this menu (I can understand not including past expac primals).

The normal raid "currencies" I'm still on the fence about, simply because they tend to be held for a short amount of time and spent fairly quickly. Same with the raid upgrade items. The normal mode weapon tokens could be in there, I guess. And Datalogs I wouldn't mind having in the currency tab, since those you sit on for 4 weeks minimum, 8 weeks maximum.

Though I don't personally ever have many primal totems or raid things in my inventory, they ARE a kind of currency so these changes would make a lot of sense - though as people have already said you don't usually hold onto them for too long before you use them.

Mention of a fishing tackle box is why I'm here though - absolutely need one!

Inventory issues, and the clumsy item search facility are two major points that are discouraging me from leveling one crafting job let alone more than one, or even moving on from starter to full account. I have a weaver at level 21 now, and just trying to level it on ARR content alone has eaten up half my space.
Chocobo and retainer storage are a pain to access, and as far as I know, can't be used as a crafting source either.
I'm seriously considering dropping FFXIV and just waiting for the next WoW expansion.

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Chocobo and retainer storage are a pain to access, and as far as I know, can't be used as a crafting source either.

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Although I'd prefer a more consumer-friendly solution like OP's... If the narrative is "pay up for storage/convenience," then I'd at least like for retainer storage to suck less. This feature would 100% get me paying for additional retainers without even thinking about it.