Anyone else want a bord race? (Avian)

You know bords? Flappy bords. Flying bords with beaks that peck. Bords!

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Stuff like this essentially. An avian race with a beak perhaps and some birdlike features, and to keep it in design with other races they don't have to go too too far with it, but just enough to make you think "Bird".

Though I'm probably the only one who would want something like this but worth throwing out anyway.

Think people will be happy if they let existing beastman races be playable. Avian race...Ixali?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20170726093347

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Originally Posted by wereotter

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i wouldn't mind a avian race if they looked like avian like the Rito from Breath of the wild, because human with a beak slapped on from wind waker always looked dumb to me.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/N9om8.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/9tVNjO5.png

you could give them normalised hands with feathers on the arms which can come out of armour instead of wrapping the armour around a long model.

Not truly avian, but i would love to have playable Garif from FFXII.

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

i wouldn't mind a avian race if they looked like avian like the Rito from Breath of the wild, because human with a beak slapped on from wind waker always looked dumb to me.

you could give them normalised hands with feathers on the arms which can come out of armour instead of wrapping the armour around a long model.

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I like those designs much more than the "beaked humans" from Wind Waker, which always looked rather unsettling to me.

They're quite close to the Ixal and Vanu designs though - at least in a way that would make it unlikely we'd get a playable race like that.

I can't see "letting feathers come out through the armour" look like anything besides lazy clipping, though. Like the current effect where headgear hasn't been redesigned for Au Ra horns or with any consideration for how they'd put it on. Having rows of feathers sticking through gloves would be even worse.

JP mmorpgs seem to not bother with full on "furry" races (I was hoping for Ronso be the new race over bunnies cause I'd like to see at least one beast-like PC) for some reason.

If they did you're more likely to get Papi from Monster Musume

https://images.sgcafe.net/2015/04/mm2.jpg

While I like the idea of more options, I wouldn't want a race based loosely on another franchises races, as I feel it'd lose that final fantasy charm to it. I'd imagine, if they did do an avian based race, it'd be loosely based off a spinoff, a direct game (like Viera in the mainline) or a completely unique race. But, given that we already have bird like people in the form of the Ixal, I imagine if we were to get a bird race it'd be based off the already in universe Ixal.

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Originally Posted by DiscoDuck

If they did you're more likely to get Papi from Monster Musume

https://images.sgcafe.net/2015/04/mm2.jpg

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ohgodno ._.

wouldn't the Tengu and ixali beastmen count as ffxiv avian races
Tengu:
https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...0522_iw_05.jpg

Are the Tengu a beast tribe? If not would be a nice excuse to introduce a bird type race. :D Been wanting an avian race since Heavensward realeased!

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These things are extremely unsettling looking.

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Originally Posted by DiscoDuck

JP mmorpgs seem to not bother with full on "furry" races (I was hoping for Ronso be the new race over bunnies cause I'd like to see at least one beast-like PC) for some reason.

If they did you're more likely to get Papi from Monster Musume

https://images.sgcafe.net/2015/04/mm2.jpg

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Her anatomy is very 'off'... and I'm not meaning the half-bird parts.

Not that the feathers make all that much sense either - was initially thinking they'd done it relatively accurate by putting feathers on her hands rather than having "feather fingers" (eg. like the Rito holding the bow), but then I realised the whole wing seems to be attached to her hand and not the rest of her arm, so... points deducted again. The whole thing is off.

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Originally Posted by Soge01

Are the Tengu a beast tribe? If not would be a nice excuse to introduce a bird type race. :D Been wanting an avian race since Heavensward realeased!

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idk for sure as the lore book 2 page 245 doesn't explicitly say they are a beastman race yet they have been lumped within the beastman/primal section of the book so i am assuming they are as page 244 is the Lupin confirmed beastman race by Triple Triad card and followed by bangaa and seeq the latter confirmed beastman race within the book. Though same book also states Padjal should be classed as a beastman race so who knows until they confirm it 100%

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Though same book also states Padjal should be classed as a beastman race so who knows until they confirm it 100%

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Er, what? The Padjal are essentially Hyuran. Why would they be classified as a beast tribe?

I don't have the second lore book yet. What does it actually say?

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Er, what? The Padjal are essentially Hyuran. Why would they be classified as a beast tribe?

I don't have the second lore book yet. What does it actually say?

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Lore book 2 page 250:
The Padjal
"There are none in Eorzea so foolish as to suggest the wise Padjali leaders of Gridania might be of inferior stock.Yet if we are to compartmentalize the realm's denizens based on whether they are to be counted amongst the five races, then where does that leave the Seedseers? Their fawn-like horns, their ceased aging, their ability to commune with the elementals, are all traits more commonly associated with those peoples dishonored with the 'beastman' designation."
It hints that they should be classed as beastman without stating it due to the lore books always taken from the perspective of a living being on Hydalen and calling leaders of a nation beastmen would just be disastrous for one's health

It's in the part of the book that asks what really separates beastmen from the non beastmen and uses the Padjal as an example. I think the Tengu are only classed that way due to the fact that no one has seen them without a mask on either real of illusion.

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

wouldn't the Tengu and ixali beastmen count as ffxiv avian races
Tengu:
https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...0522_iw_05.jpg

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Don't forget about the Vanu Vanu! While we can kinda glamour as them (only male Roegadyn look closest to the real ones thanks to their box shape), the body is a little off putting when you look at the back...

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

i wouldn't mind a avian race if they looked like avian like the Rito from Breath of the wild, because human with a beak slapped on from wind waker always looked dumb to me.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/N9om8.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/9tVNjO5.png

you could give them normalised hands with feathers on the arms which can come out of armour instead of wrapping the armour around a long model.

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That's a poor man's Falco. BotW Rito are lame imo.

Hes clearly inspired by Falco
But Botw races are the best they have been since OoT

Botw Rito are way more interesting for the fact they can be different birds
Kass is a parrot
The leader is a owl
Revalli is a pheasant


Playable fish race when though

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Originally Posted by DiscoDuck

JP mmorpgs seem to not bother with full on "furry" races (I was hoping for Ronso be the new race over bunnies cause I'd like to see at least one beast-like PC) for some reason.

If they did you're more likely to get Papi from Monster Musume

https://images.sgcafe.net/2015/04/mm2.jpg

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So, the Aegyl from Revenant Wings?

What furry race do you identify as?

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

Lore book 2 page 250:
The Padjal
"There are none in Eorzea so foolish as to suggest the wise Padjali leaders of Gridania might be of inferior stock.Yet if we are to compartmentalize the realm's denizens based on whether they are to be counted amongst the five races, then where does that leave the Seedseers? Their fawn-like horns, their ceased aging, their ability to commune with the elementals, are all traits more commonly associated with those peoples dishonored with the 'beastman' designation."
It hints that they should be classed as beastman without stating it due to the lore books always taken from the perspective of a living being on Hydalen and calling leaders of a nation beastmen would just be disastrous for one's health

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I don't think it's intended to suggest that the Padjal are a beast tribe - just (supposedly) a highlighting of how arbitrary the line between men and beastmen might be.

It's a poor example in any case, that seems at odds with a lot of other lore - even with their horns, they look more "human" than some of the major races. We have - or will soon have - other horned races (Au Ra) and long-lived races (Viera), and the conjurer questline makes it clear that not only Padjals are able to commune with the elementals. Sylphie is clearly a normal Hyuran, and you are directed to take your early lessons from other Hyuran and Elezen conjurers who are particularly attuned to that element's elementals.

Miqo'te or Au Ra would have been a much better example of a race with "beastman-like" features.

In any case the actual rule of the division seems quite clear to me: races with human-like faces are considered men, others are beastmen. (Lalafells are probably a borderline case by that definition, come to think of it....)

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I don't think it's intended to suggest that the Padjal are a beast tribe - just (supposedly) a highlighting of how arbitrary the line between men and beastmen might be.

It's a poor example in any case, that seems at odds with a lot of other lore - even with their horns, they look more "human" than some of the major races. We have - or will soon have - other horned races (Au Ra) and long-lived races (Viera), and the conjurer questline makes it clear that not only Padjals are able to commune with the elementals. Sylphie is clearly a normal Hyuran, and you are directed to take your early lessons from other Hyuran and Elezen conjurers who are particularly attuned to that element's elementals.

Miqo'te or Au Ra would have been a much better example of a race with "beastman-like" features.

In any case the actual rule of the division seems quite clear to me: races with human-like faces are considered men, others are beastmen. (Lalafells are probably a borderline case by that definition, come to think of it....)

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Yeah that quote is incredibly cherry-picked. It's actually discounting the term "beastmen" with examples of similarities with our more friendly races than suggesting any one should be moved to the beastman category.
It does in fact mention miqote, au ra, and roegadyn as being cat-like, dragon-like, and gigas-like races respectively, and then throws it out saying how arbitrary the beastman classification is.

The section is called "Undefining Beastmen" for Hydaelyn's sake!

If they added cute harpy bird race I would change. Still have a fantasia saving for new cute race when happens.

https://youtu.be/zDuls0I50is

They have a bird race in The Gold Saucer.

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Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau

Not truly avian, but i would love to have playable Garif from FFXII.

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Aren't those basically just ornate Ixali, though?