How about a Guild Hall!

Guild Hall / Linkshell Meeting Area

I heard a rumor somewhere about a potential Guild Hall for Linkshells to meet and hang out. While the idea itself may be just a rumor up in the air, I was thinking why not get interest started in the idea (if there isn't already) and give it some good potential for growth. Below are some rough ideas that me and a few mates came up with that could be viable for Guild Halls if one is ever implemented.


Benefits of Guild Halls:
-Guild Hall, Rooms, and Upgrades will cost a hearty sum removing large amounts of gil from the server.
-Guild Halls can relieve cities of congestion, caused by large amounts of players who never log out, idle, or craft all day in the city.
-Non-members will have a place to conveniently can locate and meet Linkshells and their members in order to express interest in joining the shell.
-Players will have a place to call their own, perpetuating community growth between fellow Linkshell members.


Some Suggestions to Alleviate any Potential Problems:

Linkshell Allegiance: Before we begin in order to prevent abuse of the Guild Hall system by people with multiple Linkshells, a type of allegiance would be nice to implement. Basically a player will still be allowed to hold onto multiple Linkshells, however before they can utilize Members only facilities for personal use they must devote themselves to one Linkshell. That player can then utilize the full facilities for that Linkshell's Guild Hall, but cannot use Guild Hall facilities from other Linkshells. Players can change their allegiance, however there will be a minimum number of days (personal recommendation of 30 earth days) before they can switch allegiance to another shell.

Kick Features: Ok this might create its own mess of problems as much as solve issues; however some people do go out of their way to make people and their Linkshell’s miserable and other times people just get too rowdy and need to be removed to prevent problems from becoming worse. Any Linkshell Member who has allegiance can remove any non-Linkshell Member from the Guild Hall and said user cannot re-enter the Guild hall for a decent period of time (30-60 Minutes?)

Ban / Blacklist Features: For those who can’t take a hint or straighten up the Linkshell Leader / Sackholders can permanently ban a player from entering the Guild Hall, and possibly prevent entire Linkshells from entering a Linkshells Guild Hall altogether.


Suggested Rooms:
Lobby
Inn / Barracks / Resting Area
Crafting Center/Tool Room
Guild Stables
Greenhouse
Barber / Tailor Shop
Linkshell Store/Bank/Storage
Personal Storage


Lobby- Permissions: Anyone

Description: General Purpose area, anyone can enter the Lobby, speak with Linkshell members, and access other areas features of the Guild Hall. Upgrades entail nicer tables, chairs, perhaps something fancy like a bar or fountain, a Coat of Arms containing the Linkshells Emblem over the main doorway.

NPCs:

Announcement / Achievement / Roster NPC-
Announcement: Allows Linkshell Leaders / Sackholders to write announcements for upcoming events, that will be announced every time a Linkshell member enters the room.

Achievement: Allows Players to see the 5 most recent Achievements performed by players within the Linkshell.

Roster: Displays the roster of the Linkshell members and who is currently on/off-line. Linkshell Leaders can access the Ban / Blacklist from here too.


Game Table- Allows players to participate in a game of dice, Parley, and other games against each other or the computer, in other words a habitual time waster.


Inn / Barracks / Resting Area- Permissions: Linkshell Members Only

Description: A take off the upcoming Inns in patch 1.21, basically a large barracks like room that players can rest in and receive the rested benefits like at an Inn, view cutscenes, ect. However, the rested bonus builds up much slower unless upgrades are purchased for the room. When the maximum upgrade is purchased players can build up the rested bonus faster than resting at an Inn. Upgrades entail nicer beds, tables, and general items associated with living quarters, better rested bonuses.


Crafting Center / Tool Room- Permissions: Linkshell Members Only

Description: A room that allows Linkshell members to craft. At base level the room gives no benefit, however as upgrades are purchased Linkshell members receive added crafting facility bonuses like those from guilds and encampments. The facilities will be free to Linkshell members, with the possibility of allowing outside players to use the facilities for a fee which will go towards the Linkshell’s bank (described later). Upgrades entail better workshop tools, equipment, and upgraded crafting facility bonuses.

Other Upgrade Possibilities:
-Possibility that Crafting Room Upgrades can increase HQ / Meld rates.
-Possibility that the next double materia meld, triple materia meld, and so on can become 100% on the next attempt when the collective experience gained from all players in the Crafting room reaches a certain level. This effect will apply to Linkshell Members only.


Guild Stables- Permissions: Anyone

Descritpion: An open stable where players can freely view their and other Linkshell members (monster / chocobo) mounts. This is mostly a for fun room for players amusement like a petting zoo, however in the future when / if mount raising is implemented the room can be utilized as a center for caring for and raising players mounts. Any upgrades to the stables could have effects on increasing the care for a player’s mount, how fast their hunger drops, how healthy they stay, and so on. Upgrades would entail nicer feeding troths, cleaner facilities, better bedding.


Greenhouse- Permissions: Anyone

Description: In the event that Gardening is ever implemented in FFXIV this would be an open area that allows Linkshell members to raise and take care of plants. Each player will get a plot that can support a certain number of plants / flower pots. The plants can be either cosmetic and offer no rewards (just look visually appealing) or be harvested after they reach a certain stage similar to FFXI’s gardening system. Upgrades will entail more / clearer windows, better watering systems, better gardening tools, higher increase in yield and HQ rewards when harvesting.

NPCs:

Gardener- Offers advice and will take care of your plants in the event your away for long periods of time. You can set up a schedule with the Gardener who will care for your plants and harvest them for you, provided you pay a standard fee and supply all the materials necessary to take care of your plants to them.


Barber / Tailor Shop: Permissions: Linkshell Members Only

Description:
Barber Shop: Offers Linkshell Members the ability to change their appearance such as hair, tattoos, scars / birthmarks, skintone, (maybe race / gender), etc. for a hefty price. Mostly just possibility for future content when changing the appearance of characters becomes possible around 2.0.

Tailor Shop: Offers Linkshell Members an option for changing the color of their armor, or take existing armor and use it to create a “costume” that visually covers their equipped armor. Basically the Tailor can change any non-Untradeable gear and make it into a “costume” for the player. The player will not receive the stats from the “costume”, however when worn will always have the visual appearance of that “costume” piece regardless of what armor is currently equipped.

Notes:
-Neither store’s have upgrades.
-Either store could just as easily be utilized as a non-Guild Hall shop.
-Prices for the Tailor shop can vary according to the grade of the armor being changed.
-Costumes can be changed back into useable Armor.


*Linkshell Store / Bank / Storage / Upgrade- Permissions: Store: Linkshell Members Only, Bank / Storage / Upgrade: Leader / Sackholders Only

Description:
Linkshell Store: A place where Linkshell members can sell personal goods for a discounted price to other Linkshell Members in need. A portion of the sales go to the seller, while a percentage goes to the Linkshell Bank, once a transaction is completed the Gil will be received upon the next visit.

Linkshell Bank / Storage: A storage place for Gil and Items that belong to the Linkshell as a whole. Any Linkshell member may freely view the contents of the Bank / Storage as well as see who has put in and taken out from the Bank / Storage. Any Linkshell member may donate Gil to the Linkshell Bank, however only the Linkshell Leader / Sackholder may submit and remove Gil / Items from the bank.

To prevent any players from abruptly trying to steal Linkshells of their Gil, there should be a fixed limit to how much Gil the Linkshell leader / sackholder can remove from the Linkshell per-earth day. This will allow other members to catch any suspicious activity through the transaction listing, or get more people involved in why they need the Gil. Upgrades to the bank can increase it’s maximum storage size limit.

Upgrade: When the Guild Hall is purchased it will only consist of a lobby area, the Game Table, and the Announcement NPC, and a few scattered chairs. When your Linkshell wishes get additional rooms and upgrades, the Linkshell leader / sackholders may purchase upgrades, features, and rooms for their Guild Hall through Gil in the Linkshell Bank. As rooms are upgraded new features, bonuses, and new furniture are implemented to give the room a more homely look. For now, I’m going to base upgrades in levels rather than customization to keep things simple.

Example:
The Crafting Center / Tool Room
Just Purchased Room: No crafting bonuses / Graphics: Simple workbench
Level 1 Upgrade: Common facility craft bonus / Graphics: Toolboxes, Finer looking workbenches
Level 2 Upgrade: Moderate facility craft bonus / Graphics: More equipment, Workshop Tools (Sawmills, Tanning Vats)
Level 3 Upgrade: Advanced facility craft bonus / Graphics: Professional looking workshop, More advanced tools, Smithing Furnace, ect. (You get the idea)

Considering the benefits of upgrades will take out a large surplus of gil that would normally be removed from outer sources (Crafting facility bonuses for example), the price for upgrades that I had in mind would not be by any means cheap. I was thinking around 5million Gil to access a room, 10mil for the first level upgrade, 10-15mil for the second level upgrade, and 10-25mil for the final upgrade to each room. The prices are subjective of course, however it can take a Linkshell years to break even on the benefits / cost ratio at those prices giving it a bit of balance.


*Personal Storage- Permissions: Player Only

Description: Just like a Mog Safe or Retainer, allows players to store personal items for later use. This is the only item that is not associated with the Linkshell itself, however the player may be able to upgrade this themselves through the Upgrade feature in the bank with Gil from their own pockets and access them from various implementations such as Inns or personal Rooms.

*Note: Can be considered an NPC or accessed via room selection.


Overall, there are many ways for players to use a Guild Hall, it can help address some server wide issues, and potentially allows the development team some flexibility introducing new features in the future. With that in mind, I hope both players and the development team express enough interest, that we might see some form of Guild Halls or Linkshell Meeting areas in the foreseeable future.



Many Thanks,
Sword Coheir (Trabia / Hyperion)

Any sort of Guild property would be awesome, especially with all of the features you listed.

I hate bringing up other games but stuff like Castles in RO (which you gained by conquering them in War of Emperium vs other guilds) can really make PvP group play shine. Even something similair in PvE (say you and your LS need to conquer an instance which is in a castle and is really difficult) would be pretty awesome.

Only problem I have with it is that by making an instanced area such as this you are taking players out of the main world and leaving it barren.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Only problem I have with it is that by making an instanced area such as this you are taking players out of the main world and leaving it barren.

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You could make them non-instanced, limited and numbered and very difficult/expensive to obtain... Maybe allow other LSs to kick you out if they beat certain requirements or have a better score?

I know how controversial that would sound in a game that doesn't even have PvP yet but I think it'd bring an interesting sort of competition amongst the guilds/LSs.

They said they be making a system called Free company and this free company is going to have a free company hall and airship and for my understand also a company bank but not sure if everything would make it in 2.0

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Only problem I have with it is that by making an instanced area such as this you are taking players out of the main world and leaving it barren.

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Alot of those people are in the city usually idle or AFK anyways so they're presence is just for show to begin with, people who are actually doing stuff will be out there in the game doing things so they're not in the city anyways.

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Originally Posted by Colino

You could make them non-instanced, limited and numbered and very difficult/expensive to obtain... Maybe allow other LSs to kick you out if they beat certain requirements or have a better score?

I know how controversial that would sound in a game that doesn't even have PvP yet but I think it'd bring an interesting sort of competition amongst the guilds/LSs.

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I'm not against the idea of PVP/PVE bonuses, but basing access to guilds off scores or achievements might just enforce elitism between shells and players. In the end it will likely be handful of shells with people who don't play much who have done just about everything in the game.

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Originally Posted by SwordCoheir

I'm not against the idea of PVP/PVE bonuses, but basing access to guilds off scores or achievements might just enforce elitism between shells and players. In the end it will likely be handful of shells with people who don't play much who have done just about everything in the game.

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But so does any sort of other competition... I mean if that's your concern then don't have any PvP or any sort of competition at all!

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Originally Posted by Colino

You could make them non-instanced, limited and numbered and very difficult/expensive to obtain... Maybe allow other LSs to kick you out if they beat certain requirements or have a better score?

I know how controversial that would sound in a game that doesn't even have PvP yet but I think it'd bring an interesting sort of competition amongst the guilds/LSs.

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Yea don't want to see that Lineage II bullshit in this game thanks. :P

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Yea don't want to see that Lineage II bullshit in this game thanks. :P

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I'm not saying it needs to be the exact same thing... I'm just saying a little something that would give LSs or Private Companies something to strive for would be nice!

We should just have to buy the land and the people would have to come together with their crafts to get the buildings set up.

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Originally Posted by Coombah

We should just have to buy the land and the people would have to come together with their crafts to get the buildings set up.

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Don't quote me on this but I'm fairly certain that was the initial plan... I remember reading either a Tanaka or early dev interview where they mentioned they wanted to have empty land that you could buy and build upon with your crafts.

Anyway housing should end up being somewhat similair and it's easily one of the things I'm looking forward to the most in 2.0.

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Originally Posted by Colino

Don't quote me on this but I'm fairly certain that was the initial plan... I remember reading either a Tanaka or early dev interview where they mentioned they wanted to have empty land that you could buy and build upon with your crafts.

Anyway housing should end up being somewhat similair and it's easily one of the things I'm looking forward to the most in 2.0.

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yoshi-p said it be a zone with 20 homes and you fix it up with craft and grow and take care of baby chocobos and everything and then later they link a door to your free company hall. I hope they still go with this idea i think it pretty cool

i've always wanted a Linkshell house/hall or something like it where all my LS mates can hang out together and have fun, also buy and upgrade the places like the house idea that came out in runescape years go. that would be sweet!

Love this idea. Would also be great to furnish these rooms :)

Stimulate the economy and such as well :)

Great Idea Sword! Love everything about it.

yeah awesome sauce

I really like the idea of a Shell hall, and I really like most of the ideas OP presented. The fact that the idea was so fleshed out is a testament to the thought that went into it.

There are a few things that I think may hurt the game a little though. While I do like the idea of have a workshop area that allows members to craft using facilities, I dont think that getting access to the master or intermediate facilities is such a good idea. That will make the crafting guilds obsolete aside from the quests you can do for them. I think that access to the basic facilities is a good idea though as you can get those just very easily anyway.

As far as making the world barren, I agree that people sitting around arent doing anything anyway, so no big deal there. And since the inns will be implemented soon, nobody is going to just sit idle in town anymore when they can simply rent a room and log out to accumulate that rested bonus. Having rooms in the Shell hall makes sense as well.

A final thought to maybe make the Hall a little more viable:

Instead of making most of those benefits free, make them simply discounted.
-500 gil instead of 800 for basic crafting facilities
-1 instead of 3 for a room (i dont know what the actual cost of inn rooms will be...)
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As much as I would like that kind of thing to be free, I think it would be more efficient if it was discounted. More gil for the shell coffers and all. It also makes it less necessary to join a LinkShell. Some people, as odd as it sounds, dont want to join a group or are simply uncomfortable with that sort of thing. If you still have to pay for those things as a member, even at a small discount, then it doesnt seem like you MUST join a LinkShell to be able to do anything.

An instanced gathering place for a LinkShell would be awesome. I would love to see most of the ideas from OP implimented.

You have a good point there, that I didn't think about Wicka. Some people would obviously join shells just to reap the benefits of their facilities for free, who may/may not put any effort into buying those facilities despite the cost of the rooms/upgrades. Unfortunately it's one of the few problems I cannot think of a solid solution too, without charging a discounted fee like you mentioned. But thankfully things are subjective at this stage and getting all the problems pointed out early will make it easier to counter them in the development process. ^_^

I'm looking forward to the guild/ FC space and estates and I like the fact that the estates will not be instanced. I hope they do the same with the guild hall

I'm kinda curious on the JP and EU communities stance on a guild halls as well, would be great if I could get some translators to get them in on this too.

*cookie*

A place to be that you can call your home is always a great thing. A place to be that you can call your home and filled with friends is an even greater thing. A place you can layout and manage with your friends is an awesome thing!

That can only strengthen the bonds between Linkshell members and even between server members as anyone can enter your Hall. You can have discussions sat around a table just like the opening of the game.

Why not something like Grandia dinner scene? You can discuss about leves, runs etc. while eating and get some food effects. The longer you eat the longer the food effect lasts (kinda like EXP bonus but this time while doing something). A menu appears when you sit and you get to choose between dishes made from ingredients stocked in your Hall Storage.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

yoshi-p said it be a zone with 20 homes and you fix it up with craft and grow and take care of baby chocobos and everything and then later they link a door to your free company hall. I hope they still go with this idea i think it pretty cool

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Farmville Fantasy 14. just what i've always wanted.

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Originally Posted by fusional

Farmville Fantasy 14. just what i've always wanted.

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Make sure you share your latest achievement! :D

I love the new ideas coming in.

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Originally Posted by Colino

Make sure you share your latest achievement! :D

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Fusional grew a Ogre Pumpkin?

This is a great idea! Maybe if they would give you the option to have your retainers to take up some of the jobs in the guild halls. The more people you have the more retainers they can contribute to the various duties. Bankers, Stylists, Vendors, ect... and maybe a little guild competition between each other. Have retainers take up guard positions. depending on where your retainer is at they get skill points for when they are used, the more skill points the more money you make from them being used. Not alot of money just a small stipend they also wont be able to be used as storage. this will balance out the use of retainers. Just spewing out random ideas lol.

Brilliant Razor! Brilliant!

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Originally Posted by Razorboi82

This is a great idea! Maybe if they would give you the option to have your retainers to take up some of the jobs in the guild halls. The more people you have the more retainers they can contribute to the various duties. Bankers, Stylists, Vendors, ect... and maybe a little guild competition between each other. Have retainers take up guard positions. depending on where your retainer is at they get skill points for when they are used, the more skill points the more money you make from them being used. Not alot of money just a small stipend they also wont be able to be used as storage. this will balance out the use of retainers. Just spewing out random ideas lol.

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That's actually a pretty neat idea. I could see it work kind of like the FF Tactics side-missions you can send your troops out on, or a semi-Sims type thing where the more they do a particular task (like taking care of your Chocobo or Gardening schedule for you) they get progressively better it leading to better rewards w/o you having to check it every day.

Another /random idea, What about our adventureing fellows. Let us level them up so they can take on some of those guild tasks.

I like biscuits