Blue Mage can do Final Coil. Wut?

When playing as a blue mage, it is possible to participate in duties with other players in preformed or undersized parties. (Duh, knew that)

However, the following duties will remain inaccessible:

-Duty Roulettes
-The Forbidden Land, Eureka
* It is not possible to change to blue mage after entering the instance.
-The Diadem
* It is not possible to change to blue mage after entering the instance.
-Squadron Missions
-Deep Dungeons
-PvP, including duels
* It is possible, however, to enter the Wolves' Den as a blue mage.
-Stone, Sky, Sea
-Hall of the Novice

Action(s) Learned!

/sidestep

Edit: The BLU learn and burn is about to get real.

Not seeing why Blue Mage should be excluded from Eureka and Diadem other than due to current level cap...
But the rest kinda makes sense, due to their unique levelling systems or due to skill requirements.
Hoping they eventually bring in a way to PvP as BLU though, and Deep Dungeons would probably need updating to accommodate BLU.

I am personally excited to make full BLU BCoB groups >:D

They did said BLU can do any regular ARR PvE duty as long you've a pre-made party to enter instance with you.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Not seeing why Blue Mage should be excluded from Eureka and Diadem other than due to current level cap...

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That's probably the exact reason why they aren't allowed in those. I suspect when the level cap increases to 60, they'll be allowed into Diadem and PotD (probably).

BLU could break PotD, watch out as they use this excuse. While I'd agree going from the skills we've seen so far, it would be really fun. A shame.

Because of Relic i suppose is another reason no blu in Eureka, idk i agree with their decision for Eureka.
I already solo coil but should be fun as a Blu Man Group :p

I personally think they should be able to do deep dungeon, but only solo. I think it'd be alot of fun. Personally with all these restrictions I don't find myself staying much longer as I only came back because of Blu and it's more or less not what a vast majority of people wanted. I had hopes for it to be amazing. And I'll definitely try it when it comes next week. But all the restrictions on it makes me not want to stay once I have it leveled.

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Originally Posted by zylo1010

I only came back because of Blu and it's more or less not what a vast majority of people wanted.

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I keep reading this in post after post. Vast majority based on what numbers? Only the majority of people who are vocal about their dissatisfaction with the state of Blu in XIV? No.

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Originally Posted by zylo1010

But all the restrictions on it makes me not want to stay once I have it leveled

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I feel you. That would suck for you. Also myopic, considering you haven't actually had hands-on with the job yet. But I feel you.

If the flood of posts about lolblusux hits the boards AFTER people have had time to play it? I get it. But all of this flagrant knee-jerk speculation about how bad the job is because no Lv.60 and Lv.70 content access and x, y and z circumstances is confusing. Or very perceptive on your part for knowing exactly how you'll respond to something that hasn't happened yet.

/shrug

Give me Blu or give me Level 5 Death.

...And Homam and/or the Magus attire set for stats or glam, plsnthx

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Originally Posted by Maero

I already solo coil but should be fun as a Blu Man Group :p

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Hell. Yeah.

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Originally Posted by zylo1010

I personally think they should be able to do deep dungeon, but only solo. I think it'd be alot of fun.

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I actually considered that, but if you think about it, solo PoTD is high end content, based on which jobs were available at that given time, and PoTD was built with these jobs/skills in mind. While doing it with a lvl 60 Blue Mage, a class designed for solo content, it would just make the whole PoTD solo achievement underwhelming and too easy. Compared to people that actually had a hard time clearing it with "fair" rules.
Blues Mage has its own solo instance, that's it. I don't see it getting access to Diadem or Eureka even with higher level cap.

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Originally Posted by zuzu-bq

They did said BLU can do any regular ARR PvE duty as long you've a pre-made party to enter instance with you.

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Blu Ragers are either not reading this fact or being petulant about the devs wanting to give players experience with a New Job, New Content while also getting some down the line testing in.

I guess the logic is if there are enough complaints the devs will buckle, wave their magic wand over the code and fast forward the roadmap on Blu?

Go figure.

Let's have some fun, yeah?

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Originally Posted by BarretWallace

Blu Ragers are either not reading this fact or being petulant about the devs wanting to give players experience with a New Job, New Content while also getting some down the line testing in.

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This is so much true. Just look how many people are surprised about things of BLU we already know since the Vegas fest. While I was expecting BLU to not be able to do PotD (mostly because of its different leveling and damage formula), I'm happy they finally let us know.

Whoa...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Ktg/edit#gid=0

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Originally Posted by zuzu-bq

This is so much true. Just look how many people are surprised about things of BLU we already know since the Vegas fest. While I was expecting BLU to not be able to do PotD (mostly because of its different leveling and damage formula), I'm happy they finally let us know.

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BLU would certainly be very OP in *any* dungeons, and then the complains greather than complaining the design of BLU will start to flood the forums.

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Originally Posted by BarretWallace

Blu Ragers are either not reading this fact or being petulant about the devs wanting to give players experience with a New Job, New Content while also getting some down the line testing in.

I guess the logic is if there are enough complaints the devs will buckle, wave their magic wand over the code and fast forward the roadmap on Blu?

Go figure.

Let's have some fun, yeah?

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I fully agree, and also noticed some jump on the complaining train just to complain without having facts. Well most that have complained are mostly clueless, lol

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Originally Posted by zuzu-bq

They did said BLU can do any regular ARR PvE duty as long you've a pre-made party to enter instance with you.

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This is actually quite a lot when you think about it. All three tiers of Coil, as well as savage second Coil, seven Ex primals (plus Odin and Ultima HM), even Crystal Tower if you can find enough people to premade for it (I can totally see a 24-BLU Crystal Tower run coming in the near future).

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Originally Posted by BarretWallace

Let's have some fun, yeah?

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Looking forward to silencing High Voltage by throwing a fish at ADS.

It should be fun to gather the spells, and finish the challenges, but after those 10 hours or so, it's just unfortunate so much time was spent on something with such little life span.

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Originally Posted by Singularity

Looking forward to silencing High Voltage by throwing a fish at ADS.

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Er... wouldn't that defeat the point?

If you silence it, you won't see it, and therefore not learn it.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Er... wouldn't that defeat the point?

If you silence it, you won't see it, and therefore not learn it.

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Why would you not silence after the first one though? ADS spams that in a 30s ish rotation.

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Originally Posted by SWB

It should be fun to gather the spells, and finish the challenges, but after those 10 hours or so, it's just unfortunate so much time was spent on something with such little life span.

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You're not just gonna be playing BLU for 10 hours, trust me. There will be a healthy dose of Magic Ranged DPS gameplay to sort out.

And for people worried about BLU's roadmap lemme speculate a bit.

--BLU is by default a DPS role job, so queuing for DF dungeons, trials and raids is a flick of a switch away.

--Most people have already assumed that this is a live beta test of the whole Limited Job platform as a way to introduce new (old) jobs (beastmaster, puppetmaster, etc.) that have a different set of demands (acquiring the bulk of spells/abilities by means beyond just leveling up) attached to them versus standard rotation jobs. This is a good thing. Why? We get a new job and the dev team gets feedback, both shining and salty, from gameplay and forums.

--And as most everybody has further speculated, at some point Yoshi may pull the trigger on full access for BLU, if and when? Please look forward to it. But in the meantime, if you dust off the salt? Most of what is going to happen with BLU over the next few months is a good thing.

I'm already down the road with where things could go for my most favoritest job ever, so it's not easy for me to see the pessimism in BLU being limited, but in a small corner of my hearts heart? I feel you.

I'll see you Blues in the field tomorrow.

Avalanche.

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Originally Posted by BarretWallace

--BLU is by default a DPS role job, so queuing for DF dungeons, trials and raids is a flick of a switch away.

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This statement isn't far off from the truth. If SE wanted to do it, they could grant Blue Mage access to content, such as Duty Finder, with a simple "flip of the switch." Although, more likely, they won't do so without first making some adjustments. Unfortunately, many people, Yoshida included, seem to overthink the amount of work that would actually be necessary.

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Originally Posted by BarretWallace

--Most people have already assumed that this is a live beta test of the whole Limited Job platform
--And as most everybody has further speculated, at some point Yoshi may pull the trigger on full access for BLU, if and when? Please look forward to it.

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Unfortunately, this hopefulness is essentially wishful thinking since Yoshida hasn't given any indication that this is merely a test phase or that granting Blue Mage access to more content is something they are even considering. I hope those who are supporting SE's decision to implement limited jobs aren't hinged on the belief that this is all just temporary. Once they see that people are satisfied with limited content, what would stop them from pushing for a job that's even more limited? They never promised that future limited jobs will get their own unique side content, after all. You know how the saying goes. "Give them an inch and they'll take a mile."

I still wish they'd allow Blu to go into deep dungeon solo. I think it'd be fun. But at this point until I get to play it. I'll take what they give for my fav ff job

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Originally Posted by zylo1010

I still wish they'd allow Blu to go into deep dungeon solo. I think it'd be fun. But at this point until I get to play it. I'll take what they give for my fav ff job

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Palace of the Dead caps at level 60, but BLU caps at 50.

Maybe when they increase the max level of BLU.

Tbf, you can also acces PotD with only ARR installed and a self-imposed 50 cap. You're just limited in how for you can go.

But I still wouldn't expect to see BLU getting access even at 60. There's meant to be some form of challenge to the content, and BLU sounds pretty good at breaking challenges like that.