Reporting RMT Activity Expansion

I would like an additional prompt created asking if I want to mute the person I reported for RMT activity. As it is now, I have to report, then travel through the log, select them again, then mute.

Nah, remove the extra steps all together and have the report auto blacklist too.

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Originally Posted by DeaconMoore

Nah, remove the extra steps all together and have the report auto blacklist too.

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The sad thing is that the report function is supposed to be muting these guys (At least according to the note on their weekly illicit activity reports...), but it doesn't actually work for whatever reason.

It says a lot about how much they actually care about this whole matter if they can't even be bothered to make sure the primary method of combating it is working properly.

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Originally Posted by DenaturedH2O

I would like an additional prompt created asking if I want to mute the person I reported for RMT activity. As it is now, I have to report, then travel through the log, select them again, then mute.

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That's a real quick way to fill your blacklist with characters who will be banned weekly. I stopped blacklisting them a long time ago.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

That's a real quick way to fill your blacklist with characters who will be banned weekly. I stopped blacklisting them a long time ago.

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They don't get banned so often. SE makes a weekly post about doing these things, but there's plenty evidence to the contrary to be found if you record who amongst the people you have reported has been banned.

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Originally Posted by ChaseNetwork

They don't get banned so often. SE makes a weekly post about doing these things, but there's plenty evidence to the contrary to be found if you record who amongst the people you have reported has been banned.

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How so? They don't get deleted when SE bans them. I can't say I've ever seen the same name week to week.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

How so? They don't get deleted when SE bans them. I can't say I've ever seen the same name week to week.

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Yeah, I rarely see the same names come up in my areas, but you can track their activity, and they do just simply come back online later.

I've honestly never seen the same RMT spammer persist for more then a day or two.

Though they should be banning them more often then once a day since they have enough time to prepare replacement spammers with that long of a wait. I imagine it's probably because of the sheer amount of time they need to waste relaying all of the reports to the STF instead of just letting the GMs handle it.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I've honestly never seen the same RMT spammer persist for more then a day or two.

Though they should be banning them more often then once a day since they have enough time to prepare replacement spammers with that long of a wait. I imagine it's probably because of the sheer amount of time they need to waste relaying all of the reports to the STF instead of just letting the GMs handle it.

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Hell, I rarely see the same name persist for longer than 8 messages. SE needs to be terminating entire accounts and suspending their licenses once enough RMT reports towards an account have been made. They need to make it unprofitable.

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Originally Posted by ChaseNetwork

They need to make it unprofitable.

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Only way it'll stop being profitable is if people stop buying. Only way people will stop buying is if the servers get shut down.

I kind of envy the people with enough expendable income to even consider buying gil in the first place, especially at the ridiculous rates they try to sell it at. There simply isn't enough to spend it on...but I honestly don't mind if it stays that way since it would just encourage even more botting and RMTing then there already is.

But in all seriousness, there isn't any way to realistically prevent RMTing entirely with how many sources their gil is coming from. Even if they could keep the hacking, mass-produced gil farmers in check, you also have both RMT bots and legitimate players earning gil through the MB and selling it off.

Try to follow up with a shout of your own.
"Don't be stupid enough to waste real money on buying gil like this. It's easy enough to make gil in the game and there's a chance you'll lose your account if you do."

Macro it if it makes things easier.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Try to follow up with a shout of your own.
"Don't be stupid enough to waste real money on buying gil like this. It's easy enough to make gil in the game and there's a chance you'll lose your account if you do."

Macro it if it makes things easier.

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In the end the chance is fairly low though. Most games rarely ever go after the buyers. To me this whole situation reminds me of the legit vs illegal streaming sites. Sure people will always use illegal streaming sites but if SE offered a legitimate means of buying in game currency, akin to WoW tokens people will use those. Not sure of the numbers and I am going based off assumptions here but if you cannot beat them join them I guess.

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Originally Posted by Awha

In the end the chance is fairly low though. Most games rarely ever go after the buyers. To me this whole situation reminds me of the legit vs illegal streaming sites. Sure people will always use illegal streaming sites but if SE offered a legitimate means of buying in game currency, akin to WoW tokens people will use those. Not sure of the numbers and I am going based off assumptions here but if you cannot beat them join them I guess.

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The problem with making it legit, and likely cheaper than the RMTs is that a far greater number of players will use it, and the market will collapse due to extreme inflation.
WoW tokens would work though as its not generating new gil.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

The problem with making it legit, and likely cheaper than the RMTs is that a far greater number of players will use it, and the market will collapse due to extreme inflation.
WoW tokens would work though as its not generating new gil.

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I should have explained sorry I do not mean SE outright starts to sell in game currency, since I do agree that would have long lasting negative impacts. I also agree a system like WoW tokens would allow players who are willing to spend irl for some in game money, and also gives those with more in game money another means of getting items off the cash shop.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Try to follow up with a shout of your own.
"Don't be stupid enough to waste real money on buying gil like this. It's easy enough to make gil in the game and there's a chance you'll lose your account if you do."

Macro it if it makes things easier.

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And if you spam it often enough in a short time period people will report you for spamming and you'll probably see a GM pretty soon because they are right.