Doman Mahjong Set - Currently a lucky prize only for Japanese Residents

Please sell me this.

Or sell it in the Japanese Square Enix store where I can pay a forwarding service to buy it for me.

Please sell this.

Yes, yes.

https://i.imgur.com/nyLqsct.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/n5WghIB.jpg

Aww I want it~ :O

omg I would absolutely buy this if it were made available in NA.

I would definitely buy at least one if I could get it here in EU.

I second the OP. I will buy this set if made available (whether Japanese store or NA).

My best friend is an avid IRL mahjong player. She's also a 1.0 veteran who went on break because she didn't have the time to dedicate to an MMO any more.

I told her they were adding mahjong to XIV and she was like "I AM SO COMING BACK!"

She would be absolutely thrilled with the set.

Please release it for NA as well!

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Originally Posted by ExKage

Please sell me this.

Or sell it in the Japanese Square Enix store where I can pay a forwarding service to buy it for me.

Please sell this.

Yes, yes.

https://i.imgur.com/nyLqsct.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/n5WghIB.jpg

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This is interesting... I need to make a couple calls.

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Originally Posted by ExKage

Please sell me this.

Or sell it in the Japanese Square Enix store where I can pay a forwarding service to buy it for me.

Please sell this.

Yes, yes.

https://i.imgur.com/nyLqsct.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/n5WghIB.jpg

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Suspicious, doesn't look like SE's style.

Oh, also I don't think Japanese is written left to right. Remember, Mahjong is a gambling game not meant for the family like it is sometimes played in America.

This sort of family gift would be equivalent of your Granpa buying the family a complimentary Bottle of Jack Daniels with a Poker set including Poker Chips (I'm into that as an adult, but I'm not into that as someone family oriented not into that for kids or families.) Sure, my family had board game night sometimes and we would play things like Monopoly or Mexican Bingo. (loteria for those concerned).

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Originally Posted by Hercub

Suspicious, doesn't look like SE's style.

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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/352131296?t=03h35m44s

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Originally Posted by Hercub

Oh, also I don't think Japanese is written left to right..

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That's correct, but not everything will be in traditional right to left, up to down type style. Using Western style left to right is very common in Japan.

while not a big mahjong fan it would make a nice collection piece. and maybe with it coming to ffxiv i would learn how to play and then use them to teach others.

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Originally Posted by Hercub

Oh, also I don't think Japanese is written left to right. Remember, Mahjong is a gambling game not meant for the family like it is sometimes played in America.

This sort of family gift would be equivalent of your Granpa buying the family a complimentary Bottle of Jack Daniels with a Poker set including Poker Chips (I'm into that as an adult, but I'm not into that as someone family oriented not into that for kids or families.) Sure, my family had board game night sometimes and we would play things like Monopoly or Mexican Bingo. (loteria for those concerned).

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I what?

I know exactly what Mahjong is and how some people view it. I'm Chinese-Taiwanese. This is no different from having a deck of playing cards. I know many people who have PC Mahjong video games.

We have a lottery in Gold Saucer.

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Originally Posted by ExKage

I'm Chinese-Taiwanese.

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I know the nation as a lot of ethic Chinese I hope you don't say it this way too much. My sister-in-law and her family are Taiwanese and hates it any time she sees or hears things like this, even Chinese-Taipei name for the Olympics really sets her off as well. Taiwanese independence, pride and all that....

-snipped to fix a train, there was stuff here lol-

That fun aside.. since we're talking about it - anyone here play both the Taiwan system (don't know the name) and Japanese? I know it's pretty soon to try out but I'm wondering if I'll be dazed and confused or if it'll be easy to pick up (seems to me the set I have has a few more pieces).

I see they have the standard bamboo, spokes, numbers, winds, dragons, flowers, but we're missing the whiteboards (white "dragons"), and I'm assuming the one next to flowers is a version of seasons but I'm not sure. I suppose I could just google how to play the Japanese version but I as hoping to talk about it lol.

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Originally Posted by ExKage

Much appreciated!

First, I'm not an expert because as I said, Angry Dad = no real learning experiences that can be ingrained. What I do know: Taiwan Mahjong set has more tiles as you said. Japan has white tiles while the others typically have the uh blue square/rectangle. Riichi/Japanese Mahjong has a dora tile rule.

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I learned whatever version my wife knows, was so hyped when I beat my parents and they were like "... I just lost to a foreigner at our own game, I'm going to post this on facebook out of pride and shame". The glow was real XD.

So you're saying normally 白板 (bai ban) is pure white for the Japanese? But I don't see those in this set either hahaha (on the first image I mean). I feel like I see all the other tiles I'd expect except 季牌 / 四季 (seasons) which might be that weird one at the end?

https://i.imgur.com/rsbL5bH.png

Although I found this:

The number of tiles:
Only Taiwan Mahjong use 16 tiles (+1 winning tile = 17 tiles) and the other 3 use 13 tiles (+1 winning tile = 14 tiles)

Scoring:
Both Hong Kong Mahjong and Japanese Mahjong use “fan” / “han” (same character, same meaning but different pronunciation). “Fan” means “double” or in math, “square”. So a winning hand with 4 fans = 2 winning hands with 3 fans. The Taiwan Mahjong and Chinese Mahjong use “tai” / “point” as the score.

The “white” tile:
Only Japanese Mahjong don’t grave anything to the white tile while the other 3 has a blue rectangle shape. And also the design of the other tiles are different in Japanese Mahjong tile.

Size of the tile:
From Biggest to Smallest: Hong Kong > China > Taiwan > Japanese. Hong Kong uses big tiles to prevent cheating.

Chips:
Only Japanese Mahjong has a specialized “Point Bar” as chip while the other 3 use the chip like casinos or pay in cash every game.

3-people rule:
Japanese Mahjong has a pretty clear rule for 3-people Mahjong.

Riichi (Reach) rule:
Only Japanese Mahjong has a reach rule for a concealed hand.

Dora (Bonus Tile) rule:
Also, only Japanese Mahjong has this rule.

Flower tiles:
Hong Kong and Taiwan Mahjong use flower tiles as bonus tile.

Win limits:
Hong Kong uses 4, 6, 8, 10, 13 fan or no upper limit.
Taiwan uses 16, 24 tai or no upper limit.
Chinese uses 88 points as the upper limit.
Japanese uses 13 hans or Yakuman or multiple Yakumans as the upper limit. If using ao-tenjou rule = no limits

Hong Kong style Taiwan Mahjong:
Hong Kong has a traditional style of 13 tiles Mahjong while they created a 16 tiles Mahjong rules combined with a lot of winning hands from other countries rule. Including “Reach”, “Nikoniko”, “Straight” etc. Also using “points” as the score (however we still call it “fan”) and its own “Pull-and-Kick” scoring method.
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I'll elaborate a bit on Japanese mahjong. It has 2 big differences which make the game much more interesting in my opinion.

1. Riichi. When you're in tenpai (your hand is ready and you're waiting for a winning tile) and you haven't called any tiles, you can declare riichi. This means you drop 1000 points on the table and from that turn on you're not allowed to make any changes to your hand. Every tile you draw you must discard, unless it's a winning tile. If you lose, you lose your 1000-point deposit, but if you win you get 1 extra han (basically, your hand is worth double).

2. Dora. At the start of the game, a tile is flipped on the wall to indicate which tiles will be dora. For example, if 3 pin is the dora indicator, then 4 pin will be the dora tile. This means that just by having a 4 pin in your hand, you get the equivalent of 1 han (hand worth double). Also, whenever a 4 of a kind is complete, a new dora is revealed.

It makes the game much more intense, in my opinion. When someone declares riichi you know for a fact that he or she has a ready hand and every discard you make is potentially dangerous.

Dora tiles can also add a lot of pressure. Especially when someone calls one for a 3 of a kind. And when someone declares a kan (4 of a kind) and the new dora is the tile he just made a kan of for an instand dora 4 hand, now that's intense.

If you're interested, I really recommend the anime Akagi. That's how I got into it

So perhaps maybe those end tiles are seasons and they have no flower tiles? lol. I still feel best guess is the last two in the row are seasons and then flowers, but I definitely don't spy whiteboard/bai ban in the image.

I hope they include different rules for players to play, if that's not too difficult (at least for the PC version). I know I really like the Taiwan style, its quite a fun game of strategy and luck - Japanese one sounds interesting but maybe I'll like it less (or more, haven't played it).

Definitely think it's a great opportunity to show off Mahjang to the west again though (some old shows did it occasionally), it's a good game. Hope they consider adding some occasional rewards to the system to encourage people to try it/learn about it because I imagine the tutorial screen is going to scare a lot of people away haha.

Edit: the four tiles are red doras, not seasons and I'm just very blind (they're red point value versions of the three sets on the left).

I have a friend who was legitimately thinking of re-subbing when I mentioned mahjong in discord. But he also left cause raiding was depressing.

It was quite fun to watch Yoshi-P, Soken, Yasumi Matsuno, and I forgot who on the staff he is, play Mahjong. They played with the White Dragons (haku) / blank tiles and a nice Mahjong table.

I would venture to say that this Doman Mahjong set isn't supposed to correlate super well with the set in-game. As far as I know, Riichi Mahjong typically doesn't use (but have in sets) either flowers and seasons.

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Originally Posted by ExKage

As far as I know, Riichi Mahjong typically doesn't use (but have in sets) either flowers and seasons.

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At closer look I realized I'm just being blind, they're red doras lol. Pinyin isn't too bad to read but my character recognition is bad, also I wasn't expecting red doras because well I've never played with those before (that's Japanese Mahjong stuff I guess).

https://i.imgur.com/ohDw6YT.png

https://i.imgur.com/zqva0HD.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/HGyoV6j.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/NuyZoEV.png

I believe the 'blank' tiles are the ones to the left of that image. But... black not white?

If it's a giveaway then the region restriction makes sense. Think about any other sweepstakes/contest here in the US and there's always "Valid for US residents only" kinda restriction on it. If it were to be sold on the market might be a different story. But that's just my observation. Still a neat little gift.

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Originally Posted by ExKage

I believe the 'blank' tiles are the ones to the left of that image. But... black not white?

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HAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA, when I was looking at the smaller image I didn't even see them. I just noticed them because you said it while I was looking at the bigger image. (Thought it was a gap between the tiles). Okay so if I just slap a sticker on the red doras I could play exactly how I know how to play with this set lol.

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

If it's a giveaway then the region restriction makes sense. Think about any other sweepstakes/contest here in the US and there's always "Valid for US residents only" kinda restriction on it. If it were to be sold on the market might be a different story. But that's just my observation. Still a neat little gift.

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Oh I agree! But in one of the recent 4gamer/famitsu/dengeki online interviews Yoshi-P did say they may consider selling if people request it.

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Doman Mahjong
The mahjong rule they're using is what you commonly see in Japan (Riichi mahjong).
They added all kinds of tutorials for beginners, because they knew a lot of players would be new to mahjong.
They designed the mahjong UI window to be independent, so it's easier for you to see your own character.
You can chat during mahjong.
With full cooperation from a certain company, they used the mahjong engine that has shown good results in the past.
You basically don't need MGP to play, but you will be rewarded with MGP when you beat an NPC.
RL mahjong items might be considered if people request it.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA, when I was looking at the smaller image I didn't even see them. I just noticed them because you said it while I was looking at the bigger image. (Thought it was a gap between the tiles). Okay so if I just slap a sticker on the red doras I could play exactly how I know how to play with this set lol.

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https://i.imgur.com/hc2ZrZv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mUPAOWA.jpg

The UI looks like there will be riichi rule used too.