Tidbits about the Job System

Hey gang,

There were a few questions answered in regards to the upcoming debut of the Job System that we wanted to pass along. While this isn't the full list of details, as those will be revealed on Lodestone in an upcoming article, there are a few questions we have answers for.

A player asked if you can use job stones (tentative) while in combat; and just like changing classes, as long as you're in passive mode and not engaged with an enemy, you'll be able to switch jobs.

There was also a question about linking class weapon skills with job specific weapon skills; since you'll be able to utilize your class actions while on a job (for example, using lancer actions while playing as dragoon), you will be able to combo class and job actions. There was also a question asking to confirm whether or not you can wear job artifact armor while playing as a class; you cannot wear job specific armor while playing as a class.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Hey gang,

There were a few questions answered in regards to the upcoming debut of the Job System that we wanted to pass along. While this isn't the full list of details, as those will be revealed on Lodestone in an upcoming article, there are a few questions we have answers for.

A player asked if you can use job stones (tentative) while in combat; and just like changing classes, as long as you're in passive mode and not engaged with an enemy, you'll be able to switch jobs.

There was also a question about linking class weapon skills with job specific weapon skills; since you'll be able to utilize your class actions while on a job (for example, using lancer actions while playing as dragoon), you will be able to combo class and job actions. There was also a question asking to confirm whether or not you can wear job artifact armor while playing as a class; you cannot wear job specific armor while playing as a class.

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Doh! I misinterpreted combo class for a moment as being a Conjurer with a Bard job stone.
Rather than using a Thaumaturge's combo action like Thunder -> Thundara -> then finishing with the Black Mage Thunder spell.

Job stones ought-to-be interesting. Hmmms! *ponders the mad ponder*

(And thanks for ze update)

Wouldn't those questions be sort of obvious to answer? Sounding like a jerk I am sorry.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Wouldn't those questions be sort of obvious to answer? Sounding like a jerk I am sorry.

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I for one couldn't sleep last night because I kept thinking if someone who isn't a whitemage could use whitemage gear.

Actually no I slept just fine because I'm not stupid.

Just like JP thread's player response... I hope to god devs are thinking of a way to clean up inventory in 1.21 or we're gonna end up with tons of AF gear taking up already 95-99% full inventory space...

Other than that the part I was wondering with the JP side response on this one was they only answered regarding gears and not the weapon (pretty sure not answered because AF Weapon isn't going to be coming in 1.21 but still....), as weapon to do above you have to change weapon to become that class > put on job stone to become that job > then put on job specific weapon. Pretty sure some going to complain about that one even if it's just simple process lol already can see it. Wonder what the devs are thinking on this part.

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Originally Posted by Colino

I for one couldn't sleep last night because I kept thinking if someone who isn't a whitemage could use whitemage gear.

Actually no I slept just fine because I'm not stupid.

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lol sarcasm, man's greatest invention. You win sir. And that signature is awesome.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Wouldn't those questions be sort of obvious to answer? Sounding like a jerk I am sorry.

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I agree, but, apparently some JP poster actually asked these questions. That's the only reason this topic was made in the first place.

I thought the AF weapons were coming in 1.21! :(

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

I thought the AF weapons were coming in 1.21! :(

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I do not think I've seen mention of a release date for those. I think I've only seen players discuss those.

I thought I saw AF weapons for 1.22 somewhere.

Well I hadn't thought about it much, but if there are no AF weapons for 1.21... do bards just fold Ifrit's Bow into a harp? o.0 or will we have to buy new weapons entirely? v_v''

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

I thought the AF weapons were coming in 1.21! :(

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As a kid I used to think earthquakes were actually ninjas shaking my roof.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

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Originally Posted by Colino

As a kid I used to think earthquakes were actually ninjas shaking my roof.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

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It sure does ; ; But yeah as someone said up there..how will bards perform? >.> maybe we can be annoying like in XI and just use our voice!

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Hey gang,

There were a few questions answered in regards to the upcoming debut of the Job System that we wanted to pass along. While this isn't the full list of details, as those will be revealed on Lodestone in an upcoming article, there are a few questions we have answers for.

A player asked if you can use job stones (tentative) while in combat; and just like changing classes, as long as you're in passive mode and not engaged with an enemy, you'll be able to switch jobs.

There was also a question about linking class weapon skills with job specific weapon skills; since you'll be able to utilize your class actions while on a job (for example, using lancer actions while playing as dragoon), you will be able to combo class and job actions. There was also a question asking to confirm whether or not you can wear job artifact armor while playing as a class; you cannot wear job specific armor while playing as a class.

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seriously, someone asked this. it says clearly in class reform. you should not have answered them.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Pretty sure some going to complain about that one even if it's just simple process lol already can see it. Wonder what the devs are thinking on this part.

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Honestly wondered about this myself. It seems sort of silly to have the need to equip something to change your job/class. It should have been an option in the menu or something on/near the action bar that you just click. Having item equip tied to changing jobs just creates too many problems. Inventory space is one of them.

Maybe they could just have the Job Weapons equippable by the base class but have all its stats disabled unless you're on the Job.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

Maybe they could just have the Job Weapons equippable by the base class but have all its stats disabled unless you're on the Job.

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This or something similar will probably happen. I think we'll see a decent amount of job gear and standard job weapons along with the AF armor.

Job glyph or rune, anything BUT job stone or dressphere.

Heyo!

While some of the information maybe easy to assume, there's nothing wrong with spelling it out and making it clear so everyone knows for sure (like being able to change jobs when you would like to). It's good to share information for a wide audience without the need to talk down to someone who asked it in the first place so let's try and keep it civil. :)

And Reinheart, as I'm sure you saw from today's post, players will be able to also change jobs once you've obtained the job stones (again name tentative) using text commands, so that will also be helpful in the situation you outlined. :)

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Heyo!

While some of the information maybe easy to assume, there's nothing wrong with spelling it out and making it clear so everyone knows for sure (like being able to change jobs when you would like to). It's good to share information for a wide audience without the need to talk down to someone who asked it in the first place so let's try and keep it civil. :)

And Reinheart, as I'm sure you saw from today's post, players will be able to also change jobs once you've obtained the job stones (again name tentative) using text commands, so that will also be helpful in the situation you outlined. :)

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Yep should work out unless they complain about macro's then just need to tell them to wait for 2.0 when dev's implement the gear save for each class/jobs :) thx for the official translation

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Heyo!

While some of the information maybe easy to assume, there's nothing wrong with spelling it out and making it clear so everyone knows for sure (like being able to change jobs when you would like to). It's good to share information for a wide audience without the need to talk down to someone who asked it in the first place so let's try and keep it civil. :)

And Reinheart, as I'm sure you saw from today's post, players will be able to also change jobs once you've obtained the job stones (again name tentative) using text commands, so that will also be helpful in the situation you outlined. :)

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would be nice to get some info that wasn't common sense though imo


by common sense i mean this, (from class reform)

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　∟DRG WS 1 O Short-range attack.
Combo: LNC WS 2, Bonus: Draws in enemies with enmity towards you.

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it says right there, combos off lancer skill.

What i am curious about is what class abilities get locked out when you are whatever job.

IE. can a bard use cure? or sentinel?

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Originally Posted by Shyd

What i am curious about is what class abilities get locked out when you are whatever job.

IE. can a bard use cure? or sentinel?

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I hope not.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

I hope not.

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H ope so, Ifrit's gonna be a pain in the ask without sentinel.

That would make jobs inferior to classes if it did.

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Originally Posted by Mychael

Well I hadn't thought about it much, but if there are no AF weapons for 1.21... do bards just fold Ifrit's Bow into a harp? o.0 or will we have to buy new weapons entirely? v_v''

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I'm sure you don't need a job specific weapon for the job skills, only a class specific weapon.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Heyo!

While some of the information maybe easy to assume, there's nothing wrong with spelling it out and making it clear so everyone knows for sure (like being able to change jobs when you would like to). It's good to share information for a wide audience without the need to talk down to someone who asked it in the first place so let's try and keep it civil. :)

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LOL - FAYCED!

Good looks Bayohne!

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Originally Posted by Felis

I'm sure you don't need a job specific weapon for the job skills, only a class specific weapon.

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I wasn't referring to all jobs, just specifically bard. I assume that, if you're right, we're going to be singing every time we buff the party, instead of playing our barp? v_v

There goes my sound effect volume.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

H ope so, Ifrit's gonna be a pain in the ask without sentinel.

That would make jobs inferior to classes if it did.

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Thats the whole point, jobs are supposed to be specialised not what we have now, besides its pretty easy to survive inferno with no sentinel. (just means you actually have to be fast on destroying nails)

It won't make jobs inferior at all.