So what happens to houses with the expansion?

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11-18-2018, 10:24 AM
Themarvin

So what happens to houses with the expansion?

What happens to houses with the expansion, as I keep hearing about the EU Data Center thing going into 2 instead.. or how is that going to work out?
11-18-2018, 10:49 AM
MistakeNot

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

What happens to houses with the expansion, as I keep hearing about the EU Data Center thing going into 2 instead.. or how is that going to work out?

Nothing will happen to existing houses. There might be more houses added, but I don't think that's confirmed yet.
11-18-2018, 11:03 AM
Vidu

Why would the new datacenter influence the houses?
The servers are staying intact, they're only shuffled into new datacenters and new servers are being added, so more houses on those servers.
Nothings gonna happen to the existing ones, they're not merging servers or anything, just assigning them new datacenters.
11-18-2018, 11:03 AM
worldofneil

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

Nothing will happen to existing houses. There might be more houses added, but I don't think that's confirmed yet.

There's two new servers being added to EU (one to Chaos, one to Light), so that's 8640 new houses right there (4,320 per new server).

The keynote on Friday said about Ishgard housing, but crafters/gatherers would have to make it happen first (that's all the details we got...)
11-18-2018, 11:05 AM
ElainaMason

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

There's two new servers being added to EU (one to Chaos, one to Light), so that's 8640 new houses right there (4,320 per new server).

The keynote on Friday said about Ishgard housing, but crafters/gatherers would have to make it happen first (that's all the details we got...)

But I don't think the servers will come in the time when free transfers are available.
So I need to pay for transfer later for MAYBE getting a house on a new server. That doesnt sound fair for me.
11-18-2018, 11:40 AM
Dustytome

The worlds as a whole are being reorganized to different datacenters. The only way housing will be effected is if someone currently with a house opts to transfer to a different world. As the house doesn't carry over when you transfer worlds, their plot will be demolished and they will be compensated the cost of the plot + 3 mil gil for possible furniture loss (apartments receive 500k + 500k for furniture).
11-18-2018, 11:51 AM
ElainaMason

The problem is, that some housing-stuff is event stuff you cant put back to your inventory. And you cant buy this stuff with gil.
11-18-2018, 11:53 AM
Kurando

Didn't it get suggested that Ishgardian Housing MIGHT be a thing next expac? So if that happens, then suddenly there will be a lot more properties available for purchase on every world so housing might not be a big issue.
11-18-2018, 12:12 PM
Dustytome

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Originally Posted by Kurando

Didn't it get suggested that Ishgardian Housing MIGHT be a thing next expac? So if that happens, then suddenly there will be a lot more properties available for purchase on every world so housing might not be a big issue.

It was hinted at, but it will likely be an entire patch or more after the reconstruction efforts on Ishgard begin and these things can get pushed back. Probably about/over a year from now since the expansion was slated for a June release.
11-18-2018, 12:14 PM
MaybeOliverB

What happens? People will still cry about not having a house because SE keeps reducing the prices for no reason.
11-18-2018, 03:12 PM
Siniztor

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

The worlds as a whole are being reorganized to different datacenters. The only way housing will be effected is if someone currently with a house opts to transfer to a different world. As the house doesn't carry over when you transfer worlds, their plot will be demolished and they will be compensated the cost of the plot + 3 mil gil for possible furniture loss (apartments receive 500k + 500k for furniture).

I'm wondering about FC housing. my whole fc is transfering. so will I..My guess i need to make sure no one else is left in the FC before transfering to get compensated so we can get a new fc house
11-18-2018, 03:44 PM
Dustytome

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Originally Posted by Siniztor

I'm wondering about FC housing. my whole fc is transfering. so will I..My guess i need to make sure no one else is left in the FC before transfering to get compensated so we can get a new fc house

I could have sworn there was some kind of incentive for fc housing as well, but searches just bring up a small snippet of it being on the to-do list as of June 2017.

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We plan to continue introducing new incentives and updates following the release of 4.0, including bonuses to accommodate the transfer of entire free companies and free company housing. [ SOURCE ]

Unless there's something I missed it looks like the fc plot will have to be left behind with no compensation from the game systems.
11-18-2018, 05:26 PM
Siniztor

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

I could have sworn there was some kind of incentive for fc housing as well, but searches just bring up a small snippet of it being on the to-do list as of June 2017.

Unless there's something I missed it looks like the fc plot will have to be left behind with no compensation from the game systems.

well guess need more info since this is a big change im sure my fc isnt the only small one leaving due to server balance n free transfer..if not ill wait the 45 days for demo and 80% back i guess and just pay to transfer a alt over.
11-18-2018, 07:20 PM
Jojoya

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Originally Posted by Siniztor

well guess need more info since this is a big change im sure my fc isnt the only small one leaving due to server balance n free transfer..if not ill wait the 45 days for demo and 80% back i guess and just pay to transfer a alt over.

I would imagine the server migration and free transfer dates will be known far enough in advance that you could simply lock everyone out of the FC house so the demo would occur during the free transfer period.
11-18-2018, 07:43 PM
Vidu

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Originally Posted by ElainaMason

But I don't think the servers will come in the time when free transfers are available.
So I need to pay for transfer later for MAYBE getting a house on a new server. That doesnt sound fair for me.

I wouldnt worry about that - they can easly (and most likely will) offer free transfers to the new severs only when they come live, just as they did with the newly added servers with SB and how they offered free transfers from certain servers.

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Originally Posted by ElainaMason

The problem is, that some housing-stuff is event stuff you cant put back to your inventory. And you cant buy this stuff with gil.

I'm not sure what you're refering to here? All event stuff can be placed back in your inventory - obviously with teh exception of food that you've eaten from. By default all event items can go back into your inventory.
11-18-2018, 10:38 PM
Frizze

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Originally Posted by ElainaMason

But I don't think the servers will come in the time when free transfers are available.
So I need to pay for transfer later for MAYBE getting a house on a new server. That doesnt sound fair for me.

If you look at the newer servers, most of them have plenty of available housing. And by default, a brand new server will start with all open plots. If your housing needs are generic(any plot any city) you will have no issues at all. The people whos "needs" are more specific(must be specific plot, must be mansion size, must be specific city) are the only ones with anything to worry about. Low-medium population servers had available mansions outside of Shiro for a week or more(was almost a month on my server) the last time they expanded housing. Something to think about.
11-19-2018, 04:47 AM
worldofneil

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Originally Posted by ElainaMason

But I don't think the servers will come in the time when free transfers are available.
So I need to pay for transfer later for MAYBE getting a house on a new server. That doesnt sound fair for me.

There will be free transfers to the two new servers. This is how it was for Omega and Louisoix when they were new and there's no reason it won't be the same here as well. They want people on the new servers, it's not in their interest for them to be empty.
11-19-2018, 04:50 AM
worldofneil

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Originally Posted by Siniztor

I'm wondering about FC housing. my whole fc is transfering. so will I..My guess i need to make sure no one else is left in the FC before transfering to get compensated so we can get a new fc house

Unless something is changing, you won't get compensation for FC housing. You specifically have to leave your FC to be able to transfer so maybe they'll say differently before the free transfers open, but for now it would be safer to just assume you would have to leave the house.

They had said before (just before Stormblood) about an entire FC transferring to a different server, but that never happened and they never mentioned it ever again.

You could always just leave the FC (and house) with an alt, transfer over and make a new FC etc and then wait for the old house to demolish and transfer that alt over with the 80% of the house money. You may have to pay for a transfer at this point though.
11-19-2018, 05:47 PM
Besame

I can see people from no-house servers popping over to ours, buying them up and then spending the majority of their time playing on their original server with friends.
11-19-2018, 10:56 PM
worldofneil

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Originally Posted by Besame

I can see people from no-house servers popping over to ours, buying them up and then spending the majority of their time playing on their original server with friends.

Possibly, but to buy a house on your server they'd need to world transfer to your server (visitors can't purchase) and then I have to wonder how practical that'd actually be for them as they wouldn't be able to talk to friends on another server via FC or Linkshell (FC chat would work, but has to be a FC on your server, not theirs and LS chat won't work at all when they're visiting the other server)
11-20-2018, 03:45 AM
Jojoya

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

Possibly, but to buy a house on your server they'd need to world transfer to your server (visitors can't purchase) and then I have to wonder how practical that'd actually be for them as they wouldn't be able to talk to friends on another server via FC or Linkshell (FC chat would work, but has to be a FC on your server, not theirs and LS chat won't work at all when they're visiting the other server)

You don't have to be in a linkshell or FC together to talk with your friends.

You can send tells to cross world friends on your friends list. You can't have a group discussion that way but you can still talk with them individually.

You can be in a party together assuming no one is trying to queue for a duty the rest of the group won't be doing.

If you're world visiting and in the same location you can use /say.

For someone on Balmung who's been wanting a house for a long time and can't get it because of the competition, taking advantage of the free transfer to move to a world on the same data center with housing available could be worth it when being with their friends is just a matter of a world visit. They can even continue to trade items with friends by having someone list their item on the MB and the other player visiting their world to buy it (assuming you can't trade with cross world players directly). It could easily be worth the attached annoyances in their eyes for the sake of finally getting a house.
11-20-2018, 05:19 AM
Siniztor

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

Unless something is changing, you won't get compensation for FC housing. You specifically have to leave your FC to be able to transfer so maybe they'll say differently before the free transfers open, but for now it would be safer to just assume you would have to leave the house.

They had said before (just before Stormblood) about an entire FC transferring to a different server, but that never happened and they never mentioned it ever again.

You could always just leave the FC (and house) with an alt, transfer over and make a new FC etc and then wait for the old house to demolish and transfer that alt over with the 80% of the house money. You may have to pay for a transfer at this point though.

Thats where im at now.. everyone has all ready left coeurl but 2. So ill just kick them and leave my alt in no mans land lol