Kicked from Pyros Group because of Pelotan

TBH I just made this post so you can understand my woes:

Healer claimed I was killing them by playing Peloton while walking by crabs. MFW: The walk speed increase doesn't increase aggro. Neither does sprint.

Peloton near an elemental will pull hate on me though. o/

Anyways rip

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lol I misspelled Peloton in the title.

Yeah, I always speed-walk past crabs and dragons and it has never been a problem for me. If you lag however, it aggros them, something about where you are before and after during lag makes the game think you ran. Maybe they were lagging and didn't know, so they blamed you :/

Yeah in never had a problem using Peloton. I use it every time I have clearance from mobs. That large room full of walking on only mobs is annoying as I didn't know all of them were sensitive to sounds.

Sounds like people looking for someone to blame for their mistakes.

Yeah speed doesn't change how they aggro. You could be moving at light speed but if you're set to walk they still won't aggro.
That person was an idiot.

Whether they were right or not, if you kept doing something they asked you not to do, that (they believed) was causing enemies to attack the party, then from their perspective it would seem like trolling.

And if you need to walk slowly past enemies to avoid them, then it does seem logical that a "move faster" spell could be the difference between passing safely and drawing their attention. Particularly with the "evidence" that they do get attacked.

The information might be incorrect, but it doesn't sound entirely unreasonable in those circumstances.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Whether they were right or not, if you kept doing something they asked you not to do, that (they believed) was causing enemies to attack the party, then from their perspective it would seem like trolling.

And if you need to walk slowly past enemies to avoid them, then it does seem logical that a "move faster" spell could be the difference between passing safely and drawing their attention. Particularly with the "evidence" that they do get attacked.

The information might be incorrect, but it doesn't sound entirely unreasonable in those circumstances.

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it's not about walking slowly past them. It's just having "walk" toggled on that they care about
peloton, sprint, mount, hide, etc etc they don't care at all as long as walk is toggled

this is also previous knowledge from pagos since the same mechanic existed there too

also, there's constantly a giant flood of people going back and forth in there. Should be obvious to anyone that has their eyes open

I'm just saying that if they aren't aware that walk vs run is all that matters, and particularly if an unfortunate timing of Peloton + lag gives them the impression that the speed boost is what drew the enemy's attention, then it is understandable (though not objectively correct) to kick you if you kept using it.

I'm not saying they were right, just that it is understandable from their perspective.

Some people also don't realize that sound sensitive mobs that aren't dragons can still aggro you if you walk into them.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

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I told them in party chat that it doesn't cause aggro to them and they should also try sprinting too while walking. They asked me to "stop" so yes I didn't listen after I explained it doesn't aggro them and they got frustrated and kicked me.

My job as a bard is to support my PT, whether it be singing songs or helping them walk to a fate a little bit faster. Honestly, it was a stupid situation. I get where you're coming from that she's PT lead and "her rules." But come on - I explained it and then she kicked me before even trying it themselves is pretty ignorant.

But whatever it is what it is.

Actually Peloton does cause aggro, but you have to be in combat first for it to do so. You just can't pull a mob with it. I know this because I've ran a dungeon where the tank would walk into a mob, not hit it, I use Peloton on the party and got aggro. Even tested it on regular mobs and pulled aggro. As for the Elementals, if I understand correctly, they aggro off of casting and I guess Peloton is considered a cast.

For the next time: Peloton is green and not purple. :p

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Originally Posted by Zalinaire

Actually Peloton does cause aggro, but you have to be in combat first for it to do so. You just can't pull a mob with it. I know this because I've ran a dungeon where the tank would walk into a mob, not hit it, I use Peloton on the party and got aggro. Even tested it on regular mobs and pulled aggro. As for the Elementals, if I understand correctly, they aggro off of casting and I guess Peloton is considered a cast.

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this is super super late but that's incorrect sir. peloton doesn't generate aggro, but it does end once you've entered a fight. on an additional note what enemies were you triggering aggro with? if they have the hostile symbol they likely did it because they simply saw you (provided you were a similar level) also i think they got aggro because your tank went into their range. as for elementals im not sure O-O

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

I told them in party chat that it doesn't cause aggro to them and they should also try sprinting too while walking. They asked me to "stop" so yes I didn't listen after I explained it doesn't aggro them and they got frustrated and kicked me.

My job as a bard is to support my PT, whether it be singing songs or helping them walk to a fate a little bit faster. Honestly, it was a stupid situation. I get where you're coming from that she's PT lead and "her rules." But come on - I explained it and then she kicked me before even trying it themselves is pretty ignorant.

But whatever it is what it is.

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Ok this is why you got kicked. They asked you to stop and you did not listen. You imposed, they didn't want to deal with you. End of story.

The game sometimes is about getting along with your teammates more than it is about being optimal 100% of the time. If its not welcome, then don't do it. If you can't deal, then leave.

I raid plenty, and I know the reasons for optimizing, but its not reason enough to impose your views on people that don't want to. Eureka is casual content anyways.

Careful thread is 4-5 years old.

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Originally Posted by jinxiewinxy

this is super super late but that's incorrect sir. peloton doesn't generate aggro, but it does end once you've entered a fight. on an additional note what enemies were you triggering aggro with?

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4 year necro thread, but whatever...

You misunderstand. I'm wasn't talking about using Peloton before combat. I was talking about pulling a mob off of someone else that was in the party with Peloton. This was tried on trash mobs that were in a dungeon. The tank would face pull a mob just before I used Peloton and the mob would switch target to me. I also tested in the overworld with a friend. They face pulled a mob. I cast Peloton and the mob switched target to me. Also, I just confirmed it again at 12:56 PM 2/11/2023 that this is still a thing. Had a friend pull a Lv89 Stellar Shelled Dragon by walking in front of it. I cast Peloton and the Lv89 Stellar Shelled Dragon switched target to me. Peloton DOES generate aggro. You are free to try it yourself. Or, let's make a party and try it out.

4 year necro as someone's first post. Uh huh.

Imagine a party crying about having to kill an add in a place that's so full of mobs you can turn around too fast and accidentally hit one in the face with your swinging coattails.

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

I told them in party chat that it doesn't cause aggro to them and they should also try sprinting too while walking. They asked me to "stop" so yes I didn't listen after I explained it doesn't aggro them and they got frustrated and kicked me.

My job as a bard is to support my PT, whether it be singing songs or helping them walk to a fate a little bit faster. Honestly, it was a stupid situation. I get where you're coming from that she's PT lead and "her rules." But come on - I explained it and then she kicked me before even trying it themselves is pretty ignorant.

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Sound like you got kicked because you care more about being correct than party's harmony. Tbh, if I were the in the party I would vote kick you as well. The kick may be indeed a result of ignorant, but you got kicked because of your arrogant.

I think emotes will cause a dragon to agro not sure about other skills never tried them by one. Once I saw a player use a dance emote by one and agroed it and killed him. It was really funny to watch.

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

Sound like you got kicked because you care more about being correct than party's harmony. Tbh, if I were the in the party I would vote kick you as well. The kick may be indeed a result of ignorant, but you got kicked because of your arrogant.

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Party lead: Peleton generates aggro!
OP: It doesn't...

This post: ARROGANT FOOL!

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

TBH I just made this post so you can understand my woes:

Healer claimed I was killing them by playing Peloton while walking by crabs. MFW: The walk speed increase doesn't increase aggro. Neither does sprint.

Peloton near an elemental will pull hate on me though. o/

Anyways rip

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lol I misspelled Peloton in the title.

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It seems there has been an increase in toxic behaviors

Recently, it seems there has been a increase in toxic behaviors. I hope SE might look into it because I'm not in favor of community witch-hunt.

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Originally Posted by Kranel_San

It seems there has been an increase in toxic behaviors

Recently, it seems there has been a increase in toxic behaviors. I hope SE might look into it because I'm not in favor of community witch-hunt.

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Ok. Sure. But this wasnt recently. This post was made 4 and a half years ago. Someone bumped it for no discernable reason. Someone who quite possibly doesnt even know what "Pyros" is. Someone who didnt add anything of value to the conversation that had otherwise ended back in 2018. And for the record: if a group asks you not to do something and you still do it(while arguing that they are wrong no less) then they are well within their rights to kick you. They might be acting stupidly, but they are allowed to do so.

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Originally Posted by Frizze

Ok. Sure. But this wasnt recently. This post was made 4 and a half years ago. Someone bumped it for no discernable reason. Someone who quite possibly doesnt even know what "Pyros" is. Someone who didnt add anything of value to the conversation that had otherwise ended back in 2018. And for the record: if a group asks you not to do something and you still do it(while arguing that they are wrong no less) then they are well within their rights to kick you. They might be acting stupidly, but they are allowed to do so.

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Their party their rules is fair. But taking being pointed out to be factually wrong as offence isn't.

Not going to lie here but I was really sitting here thinking "Why is she talking about the exercise bike?"
for like a whole 5 minutes and no one asked why or what's going on. Wow. I need to lay off the smoke in the AM lmao.

*grin* ah, sock puppet to bump this topic, so that the folks who have been trolling Pyros can set out some bait. Folks who stream themselves trolling, and admit to it on stream to fans who LOVE to see it, are going to be causing some LOVELY drama in this topic.

*sits back with popcorn* anybody else want to watch?

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Whether they were right or not, if you kept doing something they asked you not to do, that (they believed) was causing enemies to attack the party, then from their perspective it would seem like trolling.

And if you need to walk slowly past enemies to avoid them, then it does seem logical that a "move faster" spell could be the difference between passing safely and drawing their attention. Particularly with the "evidence" that they do get attacked.

The information might be incorrect, but it doesn't sound entirely unreasonable in those circumstances.

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This. It's just dealing with other people really. Sometimes we just need to shut up and put up sadly.