So I'm leveling up my miner on my alt character, and I'm doing leves in Coerthas, and come across Griffin's Crossing in the southeastern corner of the map. It's just a big, black, sturdy gate but I started wondering if it might be somehow tied to Gyr Abania (with the Griffin name and all). Does something happen here on another quest or why does this place exist?
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10-22-2018, 11:02 PMStormfurGriffin's Crossing
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10-22-2018, 11:14 PMRemedi
Apparently it was the entrance from the black shroud during 1.0
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10-23-2018, 01:32 AMMetalSnakeXI1Oh....I thought Ishgard and Coerthas didn't exist till 2.0 xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Remedi
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10-23-2018, 01:38 AMalimdia
Griffin's crossing is a bridge that connects to Coerthas Eastern Lowlands. Right now Coerthas Eastern Lowlands is only accessible through the frontline map Fields of Glory (Shatter).
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Under the influence of the lesser moon Dalamud, Nael van Darnus, legatus of the VIIth Legion, sought out and unearthed Allagan ruins in the eastern lowlands of Coerthas. Aided by the knowledge contained therein, he raised the very earth unto the heavens, and from this lofty perch did the White Raven nearly orchestrate the destruction of Eorzea.
The remnants of that mad plan still litter the frozen lowlands, as well as other ancient artifacts now laid bare. Though the powers that be are in agreement that Nael's data must be secured, they remain divided on the subject of how best to administer the region, which has prompted them to invoke the same laws which transformed Carteneau and Seal Rock into a battlefield. Where words fail, weapons speak.
The city was inaccessible but the region existed, and it wasn't a snowy zone back then. This was the old mapQuote:
Originally Posted by MetalSnakeXI1
http://www.ffxivinfo.com/images/maps...s-coerthas.jpg
Out of those only western highlands and central highlands remain fully accessible. Central lowlands seems to have been retconned out of the game with zero mention of it, eastern lowlands became Shatter and eastern highlands is only referenced by NPCs (I suspect a future Ishgard housing would be located here). -
10-23-2018, 07:29 PMKeever
The Battle on the Big Bridge, the first trial in the Hildibrand questline, takes place on Griffin Crossing.
The lv. 30-50 bard quests also make mention of a "Battle of Griffin Crossing" between Gridanian and Ixali forces which took place over two decades ago. Jehantel, the bard questgiver, was involved, and the Ixal were victorious. -
10-23-2018, 09:32 PMTheodric
Griffins are most prominently tied to Ala Mhigo, though they're not necessarily limited to Ala Mhigo. The last boss of Dusk Vigil is a Griffin and that's a dungeon nestled snugly within Ishgardian territory.
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10-25-2018, 11:52 PMBright-FlowerFunny bit there that makes me wonder if it was a coincidence of planned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Theodric
The end boss of the first dungeon of HW is a Griffon. And the final boss of the last story dungeon before Stormblood is.... -
10-28-2018, 06:02 AMRamessesThis is what Coerthas looked like in 1.0...Quote:
Originally Posted by MetalSnakeXI1
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10-28-2018, 07:05 AMLexiIt was beautiful and so was the music!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramesses
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10-28-2018, 07:21 AMRamessesYes indeed it was very beautiful... used to be one of my favorite zones in the game. The music, the ambiance, the weather, the way Ishgard was right there yet so very far, the way the mountains felt ancient... everything. The first image above was of Falcon's Nest (there was also Owl's Nest I think) where players could talk to one of Roddard Ironheart's descendants. Roddard was the chap who charted the Eorzean maps... famous fellow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lexi
The original Falcon's Nest (not the majestic fortress it is now) was a small hamlet that was difficult to reach back then because of the high level mobs (some areas had level 80 to 90 mobs I believe) and there also used to be a Guild sign on one of those buildings that made us think there will eventually be a "Shepherd's Class" in the future. I believe there were also Guild signs for Armourer and Leatherworker there and we used to think this might become a major crafting hub. Likewise, we thought Musketeer class would show up in Limsa. Heh... the fun times of speculating stuff back then.
Darnnit! Now I remember that this was one of the things I wanted to ask in the Fan festival Lore thread... if we will one day see Coerthas return to the way it used to be! -
10-28-2018, 10:58 AMIscah
Haha yeah, all the good lore questions have occurred to me just after the Fan Fest topic closed. Maybe we need to start a list of all our questions for next year...
Also re. 1.0 Coerthas, were any of the current characters already there? I heard the Dusk Vigil's commander (who we fight as a dungeon boss - such a grim story in that place) was there as an NPC. Was there anyone else? -
10-28-2018, 11:29 AMRamesses*(Laughs)*Quote:
Originally Posted by Iscah
Right...? I've suddenly remembered at least four more questions now that the thread is closed. Ahhh well... next year.
For the NPCs, I remember Nerrick Ironheart, grandson or further descendant of the famous Ironheart. Then the knight you're asking about is Ser Yuhelmeric who --with his squad of knights all clad in red-- were the first knights of Ishgard that players run into while doing the MSQ or some job class quest (recollections are a little fuzzy on this one... its been almost eight years). I cannot truly remember if he was constantly stationed at Falcon's Crest or Owl's Crest but I recall there were quests with him at that location.
By the way, I thoroughly loved his character and got the feels when we finally found out his fate in Heavensward... till this day, whenever I do Stone Vigil, I give him a salute when I encounter him.
One of the reasons players liked him was because he actually shows the Ishgardian honour as the quest progresses. There is also the fact that I think the first time one meets him is the first time that Chocobos are shown being ridden... back then we all had to walk everywhere and also had daily limits on how often we could teleport. Those were not fun times.../smirks
You can also watch the cutscene (HERE)... its also where you can hear the original background theme for whenever you meet Ishgards knights ("Holy Consult" by our legendary Nobuo Uematsu)... it was "reused" for Hullbreaker Isle Hard. -
10-30-2018, 03:00 AMLineageRazorIronheart, eh? Another FFXI reference I was unaware of. Unless I'm misremembering, Ironheart (and later, his daughter) were responsible for mapping much of Vana'diel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramesses
Likely a wasted question, to be honest. They would never change a zone so drastically since so much of the ARR and HW plotline depends on Coerthas being a frozen wasteland, and changing it just to the perception of players who've progressed far enough in the plotline would be a pretty serious undertaking for a couple of zones that will likely never be used in any major capacity again. I mean, it's not impossible, but even if it happens someday it is very likely not even in the preliminary planning stages right now.Quote:
Darnnit! Now I remember that this was one of the things I wanted to ask in the Fan festival Lore thread... if we will one day see Coerthas return to the way it used to be!
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10-30-2018, 03:32 AMIscahThe Ironheart clan give you all the sightseeing logs in FFXIV.Quote:
Originally Posted by LineageRazor
Also good point on Coerthas being unlikely to thaw in the course of the game - although I'd like to think that if we ever get a grand "story ending" with glimpses of hopeful things happening around the world, there might just be a shot that suggests the snow is beginning to melt, just a little, and spring flowers are beginning to bloom. -
10-30-2018, 02:31 PMRamessesThanks Iscah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iscah
@Lineage Razor
The FFXI references are intentional and they are numerous in FFXIV... Team Tanaka (who made the first iteration of 1.0) had a specific reasons for taking this direction and but that is a whole different discussion entirely. The Cartographers in FFXI were Gwynham Ironheart and his daughter Enid... the ones in FFXIV are Nedrick Ironheart and his ancestor Roddard.
Actually, initial information when 1.0 first emerged with an official site also spoke of Orrick Ballard -- an explorer and mapmaker. -
10-30-2018, 02:37 PMRamessesI'm curious, exactly why would it be a wasted question? I see your reasoning but what really justifies your assumption of that...?Quote:
Originally Posted by LineageRazor
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10-30-2018, 10:48 PMLineageRazorPerhaps "wasted" is a bad way to put it, given that we're theoretically allowed to ask as many questions as we like. If we'd been allowed only one each, though, I see this question as having a very high probability of being dismissed out of hand, for the reasons I listed above - hence, the "waste". The odds that the devs would A. have an answer and B. be willing to share it seem fantastically slim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramesses