Party Finder and it's static recruitment usage

Can we please do something about this? I'm getting sick of looking for groups and having to deal with at least half of the listings just in there recruiting for a static group or other silly things. Either add a system just for recruiting or start making these reportable. It's getting very annoying.

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Originally Posted by Krojack

Can we please do something about this? I'm getting sick of looking for groups and having to deal with at least half of the listings just in there recruiting for a static group or other silly things. Either add a system just for recruiting or start making these reportable. It's getting very annoying.

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Using Party Finder to find a long term party (static) is just as valid as using it to create a short term party. I fail to see the issue.

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Originally Posted by Krojack

Can we please do something about this? I'm getting sick of looking for groups and having to deal with at least half of the listings just in there recruiting for a static group or other silly things. Either add a system just for recruiting or start making these reportable. It's getting very annoying.

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This is much more preferable than sale spam. Just saying.

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Originally Posted by WaterShield

Using Party Finder to find a long term party (static) is just as valid as using it to create a short term party. I fail to see the issue.

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Short-term parties for prog or farms don't recruit using the duty roulettes so as to get more views.

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Originally Posted by Krojack

Either add a system just for recruiting

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Wouldn't necessarily help if roulettes continue to get priority. The situation is unfortunate, but it's just another symptom of the "me, me, me" mentality. This is said under the assumption that it's incorrect listings you're referring to. If the recruitment is being done using the correct duty or no duty (placed under "Other"), be glad you have a considerate data center.

"Or start making these reportable"

I swear, this playerbase sometimes...

If these people started spamming in chat for statics, you'd be the first to report them for polluting your chat window.

If they tried to do it in the forums, you'd also be the first to report them for spamming the forums.

A static is a party. They need a party. They're using party finder.

I'd tell you to suggest for a notice board but you'd also be the first to report them for spamming it up too.

Ugh. /facepalm

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

"Or make them reportable"

I swear, this playerbase sometimes...

If these people started spamming in chat for statics, you'd be the first to report them for polluting your chat window.

If they tried to do it in the forums, you'd also be the first to report them for spamming the forums.

A static is a party. They need a party. They're using party finder.

I'd tell you to suggest for a notice board but you'd also be the first to report them for spamming it up too.

Ugh. /facepalm

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SE could also, in theory, make a separate category for static recruitment purposes and add it right to the party finder tab. No idea what they'd call it officially, just an idea I'm throwing out there. They seem to prefer reusing systems for more than one purpose, so...

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Originally Posted by Krojack

Can we please do something about this? I'm getting sick of looking for groups and having to deal with at least half of the listings just in there recruiting for a static group or other silly things. Either add a system just for recruiting or start making these reportable. It's getting very annoying.

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How about we report everyone from now on who dares to use the PF for anything? What sadness must haunt your life if you want to report people for that....

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

SE could also, in theory, make a separate category for static recruitment purposes and add it right to the party finder tab. No idea what they'd call it officially, just an idea I'm throwing out there. They seem to prefer reusing systems for more than one purpose, so...

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And that is an excellent suggestion. Take notes OP. This is how you offer solutions without the need to take extreme measures.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

SE could also, in theory, make a separate category for static recruitment purposes and add it right to the party finder tab. No idea what they'd call it officially, just an idea I'm throwing out there. They seem to prefer reusing systems for more than one purpose, so...

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This is what I'm talking about but it seems everyone here wants to make PF entries for Hells' Kier but not really looking for a group. I'm getting sick of seeing 10+ PF groups and half of them being "looking for members for our static blah blah". They would rather SPAM up the PF system rather than have a category for recruiting.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

And that is an excellent suggestion. Take notes OP. This is how you offer solutions without the need to take extreme measures.

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It's ok that you didn't read the part where I stated "add a system just for recruiting" or just have selective reading disorder. I'll forgive you this time.

I don't understand the issue, I don't understand why it's such a problem to look over stuff. Even if people didn't post static recruitment in there, not every party is going to be something you're looking for so you'll naturally just look over it.

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Originally Posted by Krojack

It's ok that you didn't read the part where I stated "add a system just for recruiting" or just have selective reading disorder. I'll forgive you this time.

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I'll take selective reading disorder over extreme measures for trivial problems anyday of the week.

How about we make requests for making things reportable reportable?

Reportception.

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Originally Posted by Krojack

This is what I'm talking about but it seems everyone here wants to make PF entries for Hells' Kier but not really looking for a group. I'm getting sick of seeing 10+ PF groups and half of them being "looking for members for our static blah blah". They would rather SPAM up the PF system rather than have a category for recruiting.

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Or...you know, you could always just make your own Party Finder instead of relying on what is listed.

https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...8f67eb7d36.jpg

Imagine that - you make your own and you won't have to worry about statics recruiting in the PF.

https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...9adab638dd.jpg

Why does something so trivial annoy you?

Either we get a "static-recruit-only" board or we don't. Making them reportable is not an option, like - report for what? What reason could there be that would warrant reports for static recruitment, be it LFP or LFG? It is party recruitment, just long term.

I have a BIT of sympathy with white knights complaining about clear sellers because OK yeah it's probably discouraging for some to work for something if people basically just can get boosted for gil or blackmarket rmt (sympathy doesn't mean I agree with that view though), but something as trivial as static posts is really nothing you should get angry about.

Just deal with it, seriously. ( *-_-)

As another user said, the problem is not that they put these, but that they use unrelated categories so that theirs appears on top. Is that reportable? Nope. Is it annoying, selfish, and childish AF? Yeah, it certainly is.

And that's one of the many reasons (or one of the symptoms of the real reasons) as of why I barely use the PF, even if I would like to help with tanking.

That's a silly reason to ignore using party finder. Whether people intentionally miscategorize their pf or not, you're going to ignore more pfs than you'll pay attention to.

And to be honest? I like pf the way it is now. Yes there are tons of things I skim and ignore, but it's better than having a pf with only ever two or three things on it at once, like Coeurl pre-crossworld was.

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Originally Posted by Yshnal

As another user said, the problem is not that they put these, but that they use unrelated categories so that theirs appears on top. Is that reportable? Nope. Is it annoying, selfish, and childish AF? Yeah, it certainly is.

And that's one of the many reasons (or one of the symptoms of the real reasons) as of why I barely use the PF, even if I would like to help with tanking.

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It is selfish, childish and annoying that people use the PF to find members for their static? Where else should they do it? In the shoutchat where people get annoyed the same way and report them for spamming or in the Forum where only a small part of the player base is reading?

Avoiding the PF because people use it for static recruitment is like avoiding the ingame chat because people write something thats not game related.

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Originally Posted by Yshnal

As another user said, the problem is not that they put these, but that they use unrelated categories so that theirs appears on top. Is that reportable? Nope. Is it annoying, selfish, and childish AF? Yeah, it certainly is.

And that's one of the many reasons (or one of the symptoms of the real reasons) as of why I barely use the PF, even if I would like to help with tanking.

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Please explain to me how this is selfish and childish? Oh, I really want to hear this. I mean, selfish? Really? As if every 'non-recruiting' static isn't selfish to the extent that the party creator ultimately want to prog, clear, or get a friend through a particular fight and wants other players to join in. Bad choice of words here. Childish? Well, it certainly is childish to complain on the forums about recruiting, a doubly so for the poster suggesting that they should be reportable. I guess it's just simply impossible to ignore the long list of all the PFs, and clearly, common sense has gone out of the window if this thread exists. Jesus, this is one of the most asinine "complaints" I've seen in quite some time.

I guess to them it's childish and selfish to be doing those static recruits set to something that's not Omega or other. I rarely look at the PF but the ones I've seen have used an omega listing and a typical LF X for static that runs at Y message. I'll assume they also don't like that they're most likely a cross server listing which I mean just cuts down the amount of people you can recruit. I don't raid but to me it's silly to want this to be reportable and I guess bannable.

https://i.imgflip.com/2kaykq.jpg

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

Please explain to me how this is selfish and childish? Oh, I really want to hear this. I mean, selfish? Really? As if every 'non-recruiting' static isn't selfish to the extent that the party creator ultimately want to prog, clear, or get a friend through a particular fight and wants other players to join in. Bad choice of words here. Childish? Well, it certainly is childish to complain on the forums about recruiting, a doubly so for the poster suggesting that they should be reportable. I guess it's just simply impossible to ignore the long list of all the PFs, and clearly, common sense has gone out of the window if this thread exists. Jesus, this is one of the most asinine "complaints" I've seen in quite some time.

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you going to just ignore the entire first sentence and the part that says "unrelated categories"?

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Originally Posted by Yshnal

As another user said, the problem is not that they put these, but that they use unrelated categories so that theirs appears on top.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

you going to just ignore the entire first sentence and the part that says "unrelated categories"?

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I ignored it, yes. I fail to understand how it became annoying enough to warrant a full blown discussion when all one has to do is ignore it like so many other people. But you know, differing opinions and all that.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

I ignored it, yes. I fail to understand how it became annoying enough to warrant a full blown discussion when all one has to do is ignore it like so many other people. But you know, differing opinions and all that.

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"KaivaC has now joined the Selective Reading Disorder Group"

Welcome to the club buddy :D

I'm just kidding

I just don’t understand why it’s a big deal? So much so that “it should reportable”. Just ignore them, it’s not hard. Could there be a tab just for it? Sure. I just don’t see how it’s such an annoyance. Clear sellers are an issue, but static recruiters just aren’t. I see them and think “good luck, boo”, and just move on to what I’m really searching for.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

"KaivaC has now joined the Selective Reading Disorder Group"

Welcome to the club buddy :D

I'm just kidding

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Hey its nice in there! ;)

Let's wait until PF categories start becoming maxed out before we complain about minutia like this. I want to see clear for a friends autobanned for a giggle but it's outweighed by me not wanting reportable offenses being expanded to the point nobody's going to want to speak up in the ingame client. And there's enough of that as is atm.

To the people replying to my post, please, do yourself a favor and read it again. Every word. SendohJin kindly pointed one of the things that you misread/ignored, but there's plenty of others that seem to have read what they wanted from it. Maybe they (I'm counting the people that "liked" those posts, too) are the same ones that join PF parties without reading the comments, which is another one of the reasons as of why I barely use the PF in the EU/NA servers for anything serious.

But for the lazy ones that don't want to go back:
- No, I don't want to report anyone.
- No, I'm not against people recruiting there for their statics.
- Yes, I'm against people that misuse the PF by knowingly listing their stuff in the wrong category. And yes, doing that is selfish and childish. If I have to explain you why, it's obvious that you wouldn't understand it or agree anyway, so why lose neither of our time?

Honestly, "reporting people" shouldn't have been in your OP to begin with. It sets a hostile tone, and many responded to that hostile tone. Having a recruitment category all its own would be fine, and I feel leading with that suggestion and only that suggestion would have netted you a far better response.

Atleast this replaced the other joke thread that got locked.

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Originally Posted by Dualgunner

Honestly, "reporting people" shouldn't have been in your OP to begin with. It sets a hostile tone, and many responded to that hostile tone. Having a recruitment category all its own would be fine, and I feel leading with that suggestion and only that suggestion would have netted you a far better response.

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If you're replying to me again, I'm not the OP. And if you're talking about my first post, I literally said that I didn't think that this issue was reportable, either.

The post was aimed at OP, although you were the one who posted immediately before me and you were posting about a similar topic. I apologize for the confusion.

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Originally Posted by Dualgunner

The post was aimed at OP, although you were the one who posted immediately before me and you were posting about a similar topic. I apologize for the confusion.

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No problem, I just wasn't sure.