Spell Speed VS Spell Damage for Black Mage?

Hello everyone!

Soon, I'll play my third character, which will be a Black Mage. I asked advice from my friends as to how I should play as Black Mage and one of them told me that prioritizing spellcasting speed may actually be more important than spell damage. Is there truth to this? What do you think? Also, any other Black Mage advice is appreciated.

Thanks.

Personally, given your past threads, I think you should focus on the feel and rotation of blm first. Worrying about stats below lvl 70 is largely pointless because you'll need to put those melds on your 70 gear. When you get to 70,ask again.

Right now, there's a few Stat priorities, depending on what exactly you're going for. When you get versed with blm, come back. I have a fair amount of experience with it (it's my dungeon main), so I can help some after you get your feet wet enough.

You have friends?

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

Personally, given your past threads, I think you should focus on the feel and rotation of blm first.

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He needs to focus on a lot more than that. He proudly claims to have scammed players for gil. I pray to The Twelve that he's just a troll.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

Personally, given your past threads, I think you should focus on the feel and rotation of blm first. Worrying about stats below lvl 70 is largely pointless because you'll need to put those melds on your 70 gear. When you get to 70,ask again.

Right now, there's a few Stat priorities, depending on what exactly you're going for. When you get versed with blm, come back. I have a fair amount of experience with it (it's my dungeon main), so I can help some after you get your feet wet enough.

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Define "feet wet enough." What level and how far in the main story are we talking about here?

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Originally Posted by Penthea

He needs to focus on a lot more than that. He proudly claims to have scammed players for gil. I pray to The Twelve that he's just a troll.

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He's claimed that in quite a few threads, so.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

He needs to focus on a lot more than that. He proudly claims to have scammed players for gil. I pray to The Twelve that he's just a troll.

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How many times do I have to tell you people that I don't scam players! I'll repeat what I said before.

I DON'T SCAM PLAYERS. THEY WILLINGLY GIVE ME THEIR STUFF OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEART. I SIMPLY HAVE THE PERSUASION SKILLS TO ENTICE THEIR BENEVOLENT TENDENCIES.

There's a difference between what I do and actual scammers, you know.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

Define "feet wet enough." What level and how far in the main story are we talking about here?

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Lvl 70 with several expert runs under your belt would suffice. The blm rotation isn't complete until 70 because of Foul. Blm has the easiest rotation but an incredibly high skill ceiling. Knowing the nuances of the job will make the difference between a mediocre and good blm.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

How many times do I have to tell you people that I don't scam players! I'll repeat what I said before.

I DON'T SCAM PLAYERS. THEY WILLINGLY GIVE ME THEIR STUFF OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEART. I SIMPLY HAVE THE PERSUASION SKILLS TO ENTICE THEIR BENEVOLENT TENDENCIES.

There's a difference between what I do and actual scammers, you know.

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Yea, actual scammers are smart enough to not gloat the way you do.

Personally, I do Crit and DirtHit. But that's just me. I've tried a Spell speed build wasnt really my style. With a build like mine a big down fall is that sometimes you have really really good runs and sometimes you have not so good runs. Depends on how often you DirectCrit. I've seen a Fire ones DirectCrit for just has much damage has a DirectHit Fire 4. Depends the RNG. Although even if you do my build per say you must must know your rotation else you'll be behind on DPS on runs where it's not in your favor. Especially in Savage raids.

Course with that being said, since I usually have alot of time to see what's going on with my longer cast times. I try to make up for it with casting Apo, Manashifts and Erases on my team. Something to help out has much as I can. I feel if I had quick cast times I wouldn't be doing that because I'd just tunnel on throwing out has much Fire 4's has i can. With low SS I know I can only throw out about 3-4 every Astral Fire

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

Hello everyone!

Soon, I'll play my third character, which will be a Black Mage. I asked advice from my friends as to how I should play as Black Mage and one of them told me that prioritizing spellcasting speed may actually be more important than spell damage. Is there truth to this? What do you think? Also, any other Black Mage advice is appreciated.

Thanks.

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Your friend is quite possibly correct.
But really, if you aren't trying to clear Savage raids the day they are released it won't matter which you choose - and it won't matter much even if you are doing Savage.

At lower levels you deffo want to prioritize Spell Speed for obvious reasons, and finishing a spell cast just before you need to dodge is always a fun feeling.
Things change at 70 with the introduction of Foul which gives us a 30 seconds window we need to work with. You'll want enough spell speed to be able to fit in your entire Astral Fire phase within those 30 seconds, then have Foul up when you're in your Umbral Ice stage. Too much spell speed and you're back in Astral Fire without having fired your Foul. Remember that how fast you cast your spells is also how fast you run out of mana, is the basic guideline here.
I recently unmelded some spell speed just because it felt off for me. Put in some crit and DH instead.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

How many times do I have to tell you people that I don't scam players! I'll repeat what I said before.

I DON'T SCAM PLAYERS. THEY WILLINGLY GIVE ME THEIR STUFF OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEART. I SIMPLY HAVE THE PERSUASION SKILLS TO ENTICE THEIR BENEVOLENT TENDENCIES.

There's a difference between what I do and actual scammers, you know.

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I don't main BLM but I will tell you this. Imain RDM and, naturally, I prioritize Crit and Dir Hit. My BLM shares the same gear with the same stats minus the weapon (duh) and it just doesn't work. Sure, the constant crits and big numbers look good and all, but I'm barely able to fit 3 fire IVs before I have to use fire to refresh astral. Because of this, I only use BLM in dungeons so I can nuke stuff. I would never try to use my crappy geared BLM on a trial or savage, especially since you have to move around more often in those than in dungeons.

This guy is a scammer and a troll. He makes troll threads for attention. do not waste your time replying with sensible offers of advise.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

How many times do I have to tell you people that I don't scam players! I'll repeat what I said before.

I DON'T SCAM PLAYERS. THEY WILLINGLY GIVE ME THEIR STUFF OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEART. I SIMPLY HAVE THE PERSUASION SKILLS TO ENTICE THEIR BENEVOLENT TENDENCIES.

There's a difference between what I do and actual scammers, you know.

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I've been blessed with extremely generous people while playing this game, it would be an insult to their good will if I ever said "I have the persuasion skills."

To frame this as persuading out benevolence is scamming. You scam people, good people with good heart's, and are only giving Mateus a bad name.

Shame on you.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

Hello everyone!

Soon, I'll play my third character, which will be a Black Mage. I asked advice from my friends as to how I should play as Black Mage and one of them told me that prioritizing spellcasting speed may actually be more important than spell damage. Is there truth to this? What do you think? Also, any other Black Mage advice is appreciated.

Thanks.

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As KaivaC stated, get some more experience first. I'm well ahead of you on an alt - level 63 BLM at this point - and I still don't feel anywhere near close enough to mastery for questions like these to be relevant. It's a little bit like asking for advice on Alphascape Savage before you've cleared Praetorium. It's a waste of everyone's time at best, and somewhat disrespectful at worst.

I'd normally be somewhat more patient with my words, but based on your thread history, you've tended toward cluttering the forums with relatively self-absorbed, troll-like threads for quite some time now. This particular comment sums it up well:

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This is an RPG. It's also an MMO RPG. The social element of the game is very exploitable, as it always is in MMORPGs. And since I have stellar social skills, I managed to snag free gil and gear from other players. And since overall efficiency with combat in this game has gear as its bread-winning element, I WIN.

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So, yeah. You can expect some bluntness from me in the event I read a thread before realizing it's one of yours, at least until your attitude improves and your arrogance is reduced, in my eyes.

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2 Threads like this in 2 days, you can't be serious...

This is some quality fun-posting.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

How many times do I have to tell you people that I don't scam players! I'll repeat what I said before.

I DON'T SCAM PLAYERS. THEY WILLINGLY GIVE ME THEIR STUFF OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEART. I SIMPLY HAVE THE PERSUASION SKILLS TO ENTICE THEIR BENEVOLENT TENDENCIES.

There's a difference between what I do and actual scammers, you know.

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There is zero reason for anyone with a lvl 70 job to be doing this, you can buy crafting mats with mendacity and sell them on the MB for lots of gil, you are just taking advantage of other people’s kindness.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

How many times do I have to tell you people that I don't scam players! I'll repeat what I said before.

I DON'T SCAM PLAYERS. THEY WILLINGLY GIVE ME THEIR STUFF OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEART. I SIMPLY HAVE THE PERSUASION SKILLS TO ENTICE THEIR BENEVOLENT TENDENCIES.

There's a difference between what I do and actual scammers, you know.

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You're a manipulator then. Still not something to be proudly bragging about. I also find it hilarious that you are posting another thread asking for input on these forums considering your attitude to the responses on your tank post.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

How many times do I have to tell you people that I don't scam players! I'll repeat what I said before.

I DON'T SCAM PLAYERS. THEY WILLINGLY GIVE ME THEIR STUFF OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEART. I SIMPLY HAVE THE PERSUASION SKILLS TO ENTICE THEIR BENEVOLENT TENDENCIES.

There's a difference between what I do and actual scammers, you know.

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Right. You're a con artist. That sounds more regal than being labeled a scammer. Happy now?

As an end-game raider i can tell you that for BLM, spell damage is very, very important, that means your main stat and weapon damage, more important than spellspeed, you can make your rotation work as long as you have 1400+ of it, tho id recommend high-ish spellspeed(1921 is a good amount) until you're comfortable with the rotation, but dont sacrifice your main stat and weapon damage for it.

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Originally Posted by YukinoAmidala

You're a manipulator then. Still not something to be proudly bragging about. I also find it hilarious that you are posting another thread asking for input on these forums considering your attitude to the responses on your tank post.

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Honestly I'll just be glad if this means he spends less time playing my job.

Wait no this means I might get a group with him in dungeon roulettes, crap.