Materia on gear should sync to level, not ilvl

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10-11-2018, 01:50 AM
Deceptus

Materia on gear should sync to level, not ilvl

Title.

It seems really dumb that in different tiers of lvl 70 content you're missing out on hundreds of stats just because your gear syncs to a lower ilvl.

This wouldn't be an issue if instead of syncing to ilvl, it synced to actual level. That way, if you're in level 70 content, your level 70 materia would apply.

It wouldn't be game breaking at all, if anything you're hurt by not having your materia count when you're synced.
10-11-2018, 03:27 AM
Driskus

I totally agree with that one. It should also drop the materia to a lower grade if you're synced down to a level or ilvl below the minimum for the melded materia. So if you went into something like Sirensong Sea, any grade VI would just become V temporarily.
10-11-2018, 04:00 AM
SerLuke

I wonder how hard it would be for them to code to take this into account.
10-11-2018, 04:25 AM
Fhaerron

Or just syncing stats number to a certain value?
So if you have 2334 strength for example it syn to 2300 strength ... whatever the value that is set for each sync stuff.
Though that's probably too much work :p
10-11-2018, 05:43 AM
Liam_Harper

Agreed.

Especially with crafted gear being penta-meldable and Eureka gear having 5 slots, it makes no sense that your materia melds are then worthless in the greater majority of content.
10-11-2018, 10:31 PM
JunseiKei

There's no reason to do this. The dungeons have hard stat caps and you generally hit those caps even without those materia stats.
10-11-2018, 10:48 PM
SerLuke

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

There's no reason to do this. The dungeons have hard stat caps and you generally hit those caps even without those materia stats.

Not always esp with tanks and direct hit.
10-11-2018, 11:20 PM
AleXwern

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Originally Posted by SerLuke

Not always esp with tanks and direct hit.

Strength more than DH. Remember? Tanks are the only role in the game to normally use mainstat materia. That loss of 125 Strength is absolutely massive.
10-11-2018, 11:36 PM
SerLuke

Quote:

Originally Posted by AleXwern

Strength more than DH. Remember? Tanks are the only role in the game to normally use mainstat materia. That loss of 125 Strength is absolutely massive.

That’s true(and I do meld strength on right side) but at least with strength we have what’s on the gear, with direct hit everything gets ignored since it’s materia only.
10-12-2018, 03:20 AM
LineageRazor

The whole deal with ignoring materia on level-synced gear has always seemed like lazy coding to me. Much easier just to ignore the materia than try to downgrade it! If there's a reason they did it this way aside from laziness, they have not made it clear, and I'd love for them to step up their coding game and do it right.
10-12-2018, 07:40 AM
Fhaerron

Quote:

Originally Posted by AleXwern

Strength more than DH. Remember? Tanks are the only role in the game to normally use mainstat materia. That loss of 125 Strength is absolutely massive.

If you're PLD you want DH and as WAR you want Crit (I'm guessing I don't really play WAR) not really sure wat best is on DRK but I just use my PLD gear minus the weapon of course.

Right side of gear pieces are all Strength and the left side is all DH on my PLD. I haven't personally tested running only Strength materies but when I was looking for info they all said to get DH as well and most PLD are running this.

To get back on topic can't they implement or change the sync system to take all our values Strength, dex, vitality, etc (as they appear in the attributes chart) and then just do all of these -5% or w/e the sync is. The lower the lvl of the content the higher the %.

Wouldn't this be actually 'easier' for the system itself as well? Just take all numbers and do -5%?
10-12-2018, 08:52 AM
Daeriion_Aeradiir

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

There's no reason to do this. The dungeons have hard stat caps and you generally hit those caps even without those materia stats.

While it's not broad content, Ultimates actually have a very valid reason for materia syncing to be adjusted, as tanks lose out on 125 STR and dps/healers lose out on missing HP from missing vit melds unless you go through the effort to gather a gearset of the ilvl it syncs you down to bypass it.
10-13-2018, 12:03 AM
Deceptus

Quote:

Originally Posted by AleXwern

Strength more than DH. Remember? Tanks are the only role in the game to normally use mainstat materia. That loss of 125 Strength is absolutely massive.

This is one of my main issues. Sync hurts tank (arguably the most important party member) the most.
10-13-2018, 07:39 AM
AleXwern

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fhaerron

If you're PLD you want DH and as WAR you want Crit (I'm guessing I don't really play WAR) not really sure wat best is on DRK but I just use my PLD gear minus the weapon of course.

Right side of gear pieces are all Strength and the left side is all DH on my PLD. I haven't personally tested running only Strength materies but when I was looking for info they all said to get DH as well and most PLD are running this.

To get back on topic can't they implement or change the sync system to take all our values Strength, dex, vitality, etc (as they appear in the attributes chart) and then just do all of these -5% or w/e the sync is. The lower the lvl of the content the higher the %.

Wouldn't this be actually 'easier' for the system itself as well? Just take all numbers and do -5%?

It's Crit > DH now on PLD/DRK since crit now outscales DH (pre-4.4 it was DH > Crit on PLD and Crit=DH on DRK) and Crit > Det on WAR. Since Crit inceases rate and damage and DH only rate, Crit now outvalues DH on bunch of classes.