Anemos/Pagos currently dead.

Yes I know that the new patch is affecting who goes in there but I was in Anemos for an hour doing my weekly log and the player count never got above 25/144.

Popped over into Pagos and a (at least) 40 min instance had a whopping 3/144. Later one had 30/144

This is exactly what people said would happen as new patches came out.

This is proof of why there needs to be some sort of alternative way to get your relic. Put crystals on the weekly if you're capped. Put dailies in the hubs. SOMETHING.

This content can not survive on it's own. And it will be near impossible to get your relic down the line if changes aren't made.

As much as I would have loved to have a dyeable version of the Red Mage AF gear it's not worth suffering through the Eureka system. I wish we could get the dyeable version similar to how we can get the one for Heavensward by doing hunts/trading seals/getting the upgraded item. Eureka just takes way too long and having to relevel like that just doesn't make sense to me. If I wanted to play FFXI I'd be playing FFXI, and getting job gear for that game was far less painful than the Eureka system.

And I hope it stays that way.

I'm a returning player and this honestly worries me because I do want to get at least one relic from SB. :(

It's kind of a given that Eureka is dead. It was released late with an iLevel 370 weapon as the best reward and there's at least three new ways to get a better weapon than that in 4.4.

No great loss.

It's good it's dead, it's bad content.

As much as I'd love to have WHM relic and have done every WHM relic since 2.0... this one I'll be skipping out of since the content is as everyone says, just bad. Not worth suffering the boredom and just out right no fun.

Every relic thus far you've been able to get Solo this one should be no exception I can go back and get the arr and heavensward relics easily eureka is the only relic thus far that you absolutely have to rely on other people to get your relic in the most efficient way possible.

Others have already posted about this. It's EUREKA. No one expect it to live for too long. And it WILL be near impossible in future content to get this relic, since it's not casual friendly unlike the relics in 2.X and 3.X where you can do it on your own time and not have to drop everything you want to do for a weapon.

Its not really dead, but population has dropped some. it will pick up though, because unless you do savage and ex stuff, all the new content was done in a day.

In a way, content like Diadem/Eureka shouldn't even be made. Creating this kind of "ghetto" is just asking for situation like described in this topic, and the small things that Eureka brings, like the variety of enemy behaviours, should simply be in regular content, and in the "open world" in particular.

(well, open world is euthanised by flying mount anyway, but that's another topic...)

Or you can just wait a few weeks for new patch fever to run its course.

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Originally Posted by thegreatonemal

Or you can just wait a few weeks for new patch fever to run its course.

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In a few weeks/months Pyros will be out and Anemos/Pagos will be just as empty.

The question is who even made it to Pyros? I heard that in Pyros there's going to be an armor upgrade but I just don't have the time to relevel in Eureka to get to that point even though I love AF armors. The notorious monsters from Eureka would have worked better as open world fates in the new zones. For me its not so much about new patch fever as it is the fact that there's so many other things I'd rather do in the game than grind through Eureka. Running dungeons/raids/Heaven on High are way better options for getting gear.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

In a few weeks/months Pyros will be out and Anemos/Pagos will be just as empty.

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Hopefully, so will Pyros. We've seen and experienced what needs be experienced, and what we know about Pyros is iffy to say the least. Just let it fail; get your weapons from other sources.

Only then will the devs know they made a mistake somewhere.

Pyros is scheduled to arrive in 4 weeks, at that time, the nerfs will hit Pagos. But the only way to get me into Pagos to catch up is to nerf it from orbit... with a red moon and maybe have a large dragon lay waste to it. Then I can sift through the rubble, get what I need and try out Pyros. If they don't nerf it hardcore henry style, then I'll never see Pyros.

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Originally Posted by Xeonerable_Mizu

Every relic thus far you've been able to get Solo this one should be no exception I can go back and get the arr and heavensward relics easily eureka is the only relic thus far that you absolutely have to rely on other people to get your relic in the most efficient way possible.

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I'm perfectly fine with needing to party finder/duty finder to get (current) relics, but I am so not okay with old-school mob grinding in any shape whatsoever. Just get out, square. I did that before long ago, and I refuse to ever do it again.

Can imagine the patch notes already:

'Eureka Pagos has been removed from the game and monsters and Notorious Monsters between level 20-35 have been added to Eureka Pyros. Please enjoy'

let it stay dead

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Originally Posted by Losara

Can imagine the patch notes already:

'Eureka Pagos has been removed from the game and monsters and Notorious Monsters between level 20-35 have been added to Eureka Pyros. Please enjoy'

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That is actually a pretty good suggestion!

"Raiders are the 1%"
Clearly, there is no correlation between a new raid being out and casual content straight up dying.


/s

Even if they nerf Pagos, if they only nerf it the way Anemos was, it's not going to be enough to get people caught up.

I cannot stress enough how much I don't like Pagos. I can't stand Pagos, its gives me growls, it makes me frustrated.

Did I mention how much I hate Pagos?

Aaaaaa-aaaaaaah-ah! Aaaaa-aaaaaaaah-ah!

Pagos: Land of the ice and snow!
Where there ain't no fun and the grind is slow.

Pagos wouldn't be so bad if it had incentives other than the relic. If we're being technical, there's a few - the emote and minions. Yet it isn't enough.

I miss Anemos. The drop rates weren't excessive, so over time you could easily walk away with everything you wanted. With Pagos, if someone is unlucky they'll never see the emote or minion drop before the place dies entirely. I also imagine the selling price on the market board is a deterrent. I want the emote, but I'm not spending the 17 million its currently going for on Balmung even if I can afford to.