Epilepsy Warning: Omega Turn 3 has sustained flashing lights sequence

Please be careful if you have epilepsy or are photosensitive, I'm hearing some reports from people not feeling well during this fight. It's a long sequence of bright flashing that occurs.

Square-Enix please consider changing this so those of us with issues can actually safely do this content.

I'm going to avoid going in until it's patched, but friends who have gone in have reported that it's pretty blatantly bad.

Despite covering my eyes due to the bright flashing, I still ended up feeling nauseous after the phase switch and had to take a break afterwards.

SE, please consider changing this.

Welp, I'm so far away from doing this, but I really appreciate the heads up. :) Stay safe, all.

So it's only been common knowledge that flashing lights can do this to people for FIFTY YEARS and still designers keep doing it...

Now I wanna see it

I used to think Cruise Chaser was bad for glare sensitivity. Then I fought Omega. Holy crap.

Guess you can say this is Porygon's Omega evolution...

I'm not epileptic and most of the flashy stuff in this game is fine for me, but that sequence is a bit hard on the eyes. Would appreciate it if the effect is toned down a bit, fights a hard farm right now as is.

i don't think SE will fix this sadly for you guys, since they have options in the game mode to minimise as meny flashing sources as possible. (having the effects to limited can fix the issue from reddit)

aside from doing that i doubt it will change, most games tend to put a warning and its your choice from then D:

though i do hope SE notice it and do a little change on it. i aint photo sensitive but it can be a tad much.

Thanks for the warning!

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

i don't think SE will fix this sadly for you guys, since they have options in the game mode to minimise as meny flashing sources as possible. (having the effects to limited can fix the issue from reddit)

aside from doing that i doubt it will change, most games tend to put a warning and its your choice from then D:

though i do hope SE notice it and do a little change on it. i aint photo sensitive but it can be a tad much.

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It can be dangerous for people who have previously had no seizures as well, just as a head's up--it can trigger someone who hasn't had a seizure into having one.

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

i don't think SE will fix this sadly for you guys, since they have options in the game mode to minimise as meny flashing sources as possible. (having the effects to limited can fix the issue from reddit)

aside from doing that i doubt it will change, most games tend to put a warning and its your choice from then D:

though i do hope SE notice it and do a little change on it. i aint photo sensitive but it can be a tad much.

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I already had effects set to limited (just logged in to check) and can say with full confidence that it doesn't alter the effects of that attack at all. Someone linked a video in the reddit thread showing the effect in question and it was identical to what I saw.

Really hoping that SE alters/tones down the effect.

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My apologies, I have to correct myself. I tried again with all effects turned off, and the setting does actually affect the attack. I assumed the "Others" Effects setting would affect this attack, but it's actually the Own/Party setting depending on who operates the machine for the mechanics because the screen flashing is actually "created" by a player or yourself, hence why the settings can limit and remove the effect.

Limited and Off does actually affect the screen flashing and reduces it to one bright flash at the end of that mechanic, which is certainly better than the rapid flashing on the screen -followed- by the aforementioned bright flash at the end.

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

i don't think SE will fix this sadly for you guys, since they have options in the game mode to minimise as meny flashing sources as possible. (having the effects to limited can fix the issue from reddit)

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1. They deffo won't fix it if people won't ask for it. If people ask, there's hope.
2. This thread first and foremost raises awareness. People can take whatever precautions are available - like limiting effects - and hopefully the number of people affected by this will at least be reduced. And while not running content is sad, this also gives people the chance to make that decision - do they want to take the risk knowing what's in there, or shy away from the content because seizures aren't worth it?

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

i don't think SE will fix this sadly for you guys, since they have options in the game mode to minimise as meny flashing sources as possible. (having the effects to limited can fix the issue from reddit)

aside from doing that i doubt it will change, most games tend to put a warning and its your choice from then D:

though i do hope SE notice it and do a little change on it. i aint photo sensitive but it can be a tad much.

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Sadly limiting effects only applies to placer-characters, not to anything an enemy uses.

I havent done Alphascape yet, so I obviously dont know what that flashy light source in there is, but I surely whish they would add in options to really limit or turn off effects. The Holy-animation always triggers headaches for me and while I can turn it off for me and other players, there are enemies in the game (the WHMs in Amdapor) who are using it.

I know that its my choice, but it would be really nice if my choice could be to play the game in a way that doesnt trigger hour long headaches because of one animation. The game looks very bland without effects, yes... but I'd love to choose to play it that way if it allowed me to play painlessly.
They're putting in options for players with colourblindless or hearing problems... why cant they add a mode that makes it easier for people with photosensitivty? We know what sort of effects cause headaches for most people and even if the mode they add wont be perfect for everyone, it would be something.

Thanks for making this thread.

There's no reason this had to be in the game.

I see we spoiling who is in the second fight. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Wyvernheart

I see we spoiling who is in the second fight. Thanks.

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Third fight, actually, and warning people of the possibility that the fight could trigger a very real health concern IRL takes priority over your precious spoilers.

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Originally Posted by VicTX_Viper

Third fight, actually, and warning people of the possibility that the fight could trigger a very real health concern IRL takes priority over your precious spoilers.

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Its right in the title it could have been worded a little better so no one is spoiled and warning was known
"epileptic warning o11 spoilers"
and you spoiled it even further for them

No need to be snarkey about it people take enjoyment in the story dont ruin it for others

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

i don't think SE will fix this sadly for you guys, since they have options in the game mode to minimise as meny flashing sources as possible. (having the effects to limited can fix the issue from reddit)

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I'm not so sure; they're a fairly risk-averse company.

Also, I'd point out that rapid sequences of flashing lights is generally a bad idea all-around. There are certain exceptions - particularly horror games in which strobe effects can make it difficult to determine the location of creepy things - but in general, it's not a good idea. This shouldn't have made it past QA, and I hope they'll strip it out in a patch and replace it with something else.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

Its right in the title it could have been worded a little better so no one is spoiled and warning was known
"epileptic warning o11 spoilers"
and you spoiled it even further for them

No need to be snarkey about it people take enjoyment in the story dont ruin it for others

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Actually someone unfamiliar with the story would probably just assume that “Omega Turn 3” is just a shorthand term used to refer to the third fight in the Omega raid storyline, rather than be specifically tipped off about anything spoilery.

You know, unless someone were to come into this thread and make a big fuss about it, this drawing attention to the presence of spoilers. :P

I've played since 2.0 launch regularly and never ran into something like this before. I am not epileptic, but I am very light sensitive and it triggers nausea and migraines.

Four attempts at this and I had to remove myself from the duty finder. I simply cannot complete this fight as is without getting ill.

My teenager plays with us and she has a VNS for her seizures as it is. This is one of the worst possible things in a game that can be put in. No one in our household will be able to do that instance until it's fixed and the lights are completely taken out. Please, SQEX.

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Originally Posted by VicTX_Viper

Third fight, actually, and warning people of the possibility that the fight could trigger a very real health concern IRL takes priority over your precious spoilers.

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I am sorry if I posted spoilers in the title thread. I was passing the info along, and wasn't aware that was actually a spoiler, so I do apologize. I could've worded it better had I known, and sadly, I cannot edit the post title to fix this. It's a very real concern though, and I'd like to think people could accept a minor non MSQ related spoiler in order to warn people specifically about the fight.

FFXIV is usually so much better than this than to put dangerous content into the game like this, and seizures can be fatal. In a game with an otherwise great track record, I know I was blindsided when people rushed to let me know it has intense sustained bright flashing in a fight. Yes, there's lots of flashiness and such, but not that sustained and strobe-like. Getting a little spoiler about the name of the boss doesn't really stack up against someone getting caught off guard and being in a potentially dangerous situation.

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Originally Posted by Shofie

I am sorry if I posted spoilers in the title thread. I was passing the info along, and wasn't aware that was actually a spoiler, so I do apologize.

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As someone who hasn't done it yet, and like another guy mentioned, I honestly thought that Omega turn 3 was just short-hand for the new set of raids. It only became a spoiler when people (who already know the fight) pointed out that it was, so it wasn't really a spoiler.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

As someone who hasn't done it yet, and like another guy mentioned, I honestly thought that Omega turn 3 was just short-hand for the new set of raids. It only became a spoiler when people (who already know the fight) pointed out that it was, so it wasn't really a spoiler.

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Ditto.

So thanks a lot for screaming "Spoilers!", spoiler-screaming was the spoiler.

Nothing will most likely be done as SE seems to not care about impaired players. See how long it took them to add a sort of colorblind mode(4.3 btw). Unless someone has a seizure bad enough to get media attention only then will they change it most likely. This could just be the cynic in me though /shrug

I don't think that limiting everyone for some ppl problems is the best solution. SE should "ADD a option", and not "CHANGE for everyone". Could add an option, similar to the color blind one to drasticaly lessen the brightness, so that everyone can configure the best setup to play. I think that would be enough and good for everyone.

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Originally Posted by LeoLupinos

I don't think that limiting everyone for some ppl problems is the best solution.

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Agreed plus seizure warnings come on all video games. People that suffer from that already know that playing games in general can cause issues so I'm sure outside of this they're taking necessary precautions.

There’s more brightness and flashing than usual in this fight? Honestly didn’t even notice, but I hope there will be some sort of solution for people having issues like the option to disable certain enemy effects or something.

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Originally Posted by Tempest222

There’s more brightness and flashing than usual in this fight? Honestly didn’t even notice, but I hope there will be some sort of solution for people having issues like the option to disable certain enemy effects or something.

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Basically, if you set effects to limited (or none), it's not that bad.

That effect is BRUTAL on the eyes. It seriously does need to be changed. I swapped my settings around to limit it for that fight but man oh man, not sure how that made it past quality control.

Side Note: It's the only fight that I've had to adjust my settings for so far; which to me is stupid. I have to go in and muck with settings for that fight, and then re-adjust them back after. Please change this SE. :/

I don't suffer from Epilepsy or anything of the like but that particular moment in the fight is painful on the eyes. There is so much just bursting out that I have to squint or even look away due to the sheer bombasity of the effects.