Possibility of our combat skills becoming obsolete?

With my monk, The Forbidden Chakra and Tornado Kick are a staple. And so is Riddle of Fire. I LOVE them. But soon, the next expansion will come out and I'm worried these skills will be replaced by complicated ones... What do you think of this?

Thanks.

I don't know why you're so worried about this. A huge amount of staple skills from ARR still exist today.

EDIT: Just saw your join date, I guess you might be a new player. Anyway I don't think the next expansion is a cause for worry in this case.

I don't expect them to make combat more complicated. I think they'll do the opposite, like making combos a single button like in PvP.

And they probably won't add that many new skills if they can help it. They'll probably just do something boring like get rid of role actions and then give us different versions of them as "new" skills.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

get rid of role actions and then give us different versions of them as "new" skills.

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So are we getting SCH and AST's Esuna matches back?! :D

To be honest I don't think we can predict just what they will do in the next expansion. I would just wait till more info is known and not worry about it.

I’m still a bit torn up about Fracture (An old DoT from Warrior) and Brutal Swing. (Warrior’s old stun ability)

If you want to be worried about monk, be worried SE will "simplify" it.

I actually dislike the thought of getting new skills due to feeling comfortable with my hotbar set up for so long. There's always a little dread when the level cap increases and I have to find a place to put new skills and get used to the new way the job might play. Not sure what 5.0 is going to bring, I just hope it's not going to bloat my hotbar up with lots of new skills and yet at the same time, I don't want them to not add new skills.

How can this be resolved I wonder? I like new skills, but I also like a hotbar that's not bloated full of skills. Perhaps link some skills in such a way that they can be used with one key/button? Actually, I suppose they started testing that out on PvP with the combos being a single key press that just updates. I'd like that expanded on for use outside of PvP, at least with the option to use it or not.

I would like to see something similar to how some skills "upgrade" like how berserk changes on warrior. Could see this as an alt to creating new skills without adding more buttons.

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

So are we getting SCH and AST's Esuna matches back?! :D

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I miss throwing Leeches at people.

For the OP, I wouldn't worry too much, if nothing else they'll add skills that help enhance the way you already fight. FFXIV combat system has always been more additive than replacement. Does more building on itself.

I would worry more about things getting too complicated (or too simplified) depending on what your class is "too much ____" of at the time. I used to play my PLD a lot more until they added the magic and MP management stuff to the rotation. Not saying it's hard to do, but it was more than what I wanted to do while playing the class - but I haven't been a PLD main for awhile; and I know adding more complexity to the class was on the wishlist for a long time. So kudos for them because I wholly understand that desire as a WHM main. I want a little more complexity for that class.

But the beauty of FFXIV is that switching your main class is almost par for the course in almost every expansion - and sometimes more often. One class changes in a way you don't quite like, but another class becomes your absolute JAM and you rock it like it was always your favorite. My main list since 2.0 has gone:

WHM-> WAR -> MNK -> WHM -> PLD -> SAM -> WHM

I keep goin back to WHM. It's definitely the class I have the biggest relationship with and has solidified itself for me. But Dancer is gonna pose a huge threat so who knows what it will be in the future!

they wont be obsolete, they'll just be deleted/replaced, like DRK's Scourge, or DRK's Low Blow, or DRK's Delirium, or DRK's Dark Dance, or DRK's Shadowskin. /s

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Originally Posted by Heliantheae

I miss throwing Leeches at people.

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Yeah, I also miss leeches :< But not Exalted Detriment. Too annoying to type out.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Yeah, I also miss leeches :< But not Exalted Detriment. Too annoying to type out.

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Oof, you couldn't say ED either since we have Essential Dignity, too.

On-topic: They learned back in HW that adding more skills is a pain for the players, so for SB we had ours updated via Trait rather than making them useless (as was the problem for WHM and Stone). I expect we'll get our next "tier" of skills the same way.

I don't know if I can say there are skills that wind up being useless over time, except Physick with Summoner and maybe Blizzard II with Black Mage.

Also, anything like Sleep or Tether outside of Eureka/solo duties.