new player feed back

I have played Ff-xiv for about 4-5 months now I play daily but I guess considered a casual player. Just wanted to give some feed back on how I like the game so far. My main concern is being stuck on msq I feel the new areas like heavenward and stormblood should open up when you reach a certain level rather then be stuck forever in in the old areas forever. You are unable to play with older players do faith hunts ect with them. This makes the game pretty boring after awhile. Lets not forget the other players have had 5 years to do this content to expect a new player to catch up in a few months is pretty unrealistic. Alot of other games do not require you to do all the original content or buy your way to where other players are at the present. Plus then there is the toxic attitude of older players towards new players. Being call pathetic sprouts, scrubs, slapped spit on in dungeons really that is what helps bring in new players. I even had a guild member say i wish the tank was dead in rl omg thats kinda taking it to far i think. There are really helpful people out there also just seems you remember the bad over the good more. I do enjoy the game but think it needs some overhaul to make it more new player friendly. Plus i feel the road to 60 should be for all players with no time limit also other games had done this also to help all new and old players to keep up. take care and have fun:)

I'm sorry you had bad experiences in dungeons, while I haven't seen the name calling I experience impatient people in almost every dungeon. Anyone who resorts to that kind of name calling, id reccomend reporting them. Also maybe find a different fc if that guy was an officer, if not bring it up with one if its reoccurring.

If yer looking for hunts in the lower level areas, there should be hunt linkshells. Just shout in a major city a little and someone should invite you to one.

What's the hurry to get to the new areas? Enjoy the journey instead rather than rushing through it and end up with nothing to do.
Most quests are done solo anyway, and the ones which need a group draw that group from the whole playerbase - new and old players alike.

Road to 60 buff is actually bad for new players in my opinion. It completely messes up the intended leveling pace and experience.
Unless you know how to manage it (by splitting experience among several classes) which few new players will know, it will cause you to either quickly outlevel your quests or - if you skip most sidequests - you will often end up undergeared since you miss all the quest rewards.


As for the toxic players, report them if they are bad enough, otherwise just ignore them. Beyond that they are not worth spending any thought on anyway.

Hey there, not sure you'll check back here, but if you need help in dungeons/trials etc let me know. I'm on Couerl but I can always party finder or group you to get you through them. just let me know

oh about those who call names or try to shame, don't worry about them. it sucks and is irritating, but theres a lot of us that wouldn't do that and can't stand those people, typically theyre not good themselves lol.

Zalera is a small and laid back World, so you might have issues running ARR/HW fates and Hunts unless you find the right groups. I highly suggest being in a few Hunt/FATE linkshells geared towards running both new and old content. This may help considerably as there are a few organized groups in Zalera who do this. There are a lot of nice people on Zalera and they try to help out new people as much as they can, so you might just have to look around for them. Unfortunately, my alt is no longer on Zalera, but I was pretty active in Hunts and FATES for both new and old content.

As for toxic people in dungeons, that's a shame. I wish people would take time to explain strats and help out more if a player is struggling, instead of just complaining and not aiding the situation.

I haven't experienced any negative players yet thankfully, but I just started a month ago. I too am mired in solo quest hell. I checked the MSQ line and I still have like 50 more AAR quests to do. I have abandoned any quests leves or fates that aren't absolutely necessary, because I'm already almost level 60 and don't have any of my level 50-59 spells. I feel like I have to level another class and advance the MSQ more on a different job, because at this rate I'm going to be level 70 with no spells past 50, running around Mora doing solo quests. I guess it's due to the xp bonus, but this entire time I've been doing quests way too low level for low level rewards that I wouldn't even use. I've gave up on story and just been blowing through all the dialog and skipping cut scenes. I'm not going to watch 200 cut scenes about how I need to go hail some NPC at a camp.

I'm going to plow through to end game because I dropped 60 bucks on this game.

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Originally Posted by sqlb3rn

I haven't experienced any negative players yet thankfully, but I just started a month ago. I too am mired in solo quest hell. I checked the MSQ line and I still have like 50 more AAR quests to do. I have abandoned any quests leves or fates that aren't absolutely necessary, because I'm already almost level 60 and don't have any of my level 50-59 spells. I feel like I have to level another class and advance the MSQ more on a different job, because at this rate I'm going to be level 70 with no spells past 50, running around Mora doing solo quests. I guess it's due to the xp bonus, but this entire time I've been doing quests way too low level for low level rewards that I wouldn't even use. I've gave up on story and just been blowing through all the dialog and skipping cut scenes. I'm not going to watch 200 cut scenes about how I need to go hail some NPC at a camp.

I'm going to plow through to end game because I dropped 60 bucks on this game.

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If you have the Road to 60 buff, you will level crazily fast. If you don't know how to manage this (by using multiple classes to soak up the Exp) you will outlevel content or have to skip 95% of it. I would strongly disrecommend the Road to 60 buff for new players - it well mess up the leveling experience badly.

Blowing through dialog and cutscenes means you are missing the good parts of the game. The end game is less interesting than the leveling process.

I came from Wow BFA, kind of tired of timegating.

Then I'm in FFXIV, with the time gate of all time gates (the MSQ.)

I fell behind, so now I'm level 54 and up to a level 40 or so MSQ (finally!) Though 54, I can't get to the new areas because I have not done "Before the Dawn" MSQ yet.

That aspect, of this game, is WAY worse than Wow BFA. In Wow you can at least get to a level, then simply be doing the next expansion content.

I may be level 60 before I can even do any of the "heavensword"(or which ever one it was) stuff.

I was under the impression new players should ignore everything but MSQ and job quests while leveling their first char (class). The reasoning behind that was the amount of inventory micromanagement you have to do with multiple classes or jobs and I understand it. Even the idea of leveling my gatherers or crafters is giving me nightmares. Every one of them is capable of filling the inventory by themselves, and there are 11 of them. And that's even without other classes/jobs.

I thought it would help reaching 50 and then do those quests I left with a new job. No. My Sam is fully skilled to 50.
Then I thought I would give him crappy gear, start with 3 or 4 skills and then slowly build my SAM gear, do low level quests and learn new skills. A simulation of what would be if SAM started with lvl 1. But even that is no solution. He is overpowered for low level content and one shots everything in sight, so I can't learn my skills properly.

Now, my NIN is lvl54 with close to 100 quests to do before I can do "Before the dawn" which alows me to continue leveling the job. I imagine I'll be close to 70 before I can learn my lvl 54 skill.

Sam and red mage both start at 50. The jobs that came out with Heavensward all start at 30. You can always take your sam into the lower level dungeons to get used to it. It's what I did, but I also used my squadron. Only the jobs that start out as a class start at level 1.

The "road to level 60" buff that's applied is too OP, it doesn't help you get through the MSQ content any faster, it just completely throws your character out of sync with the gear/rewards you get from the MSQ stuff, I think I completed the Seventh Umbral Era quests (Main ARR Story) and clocked out at around lv.55, what I didn't realise it that i'd have to play through all the patch quests added after that up till Heavensward.... I ended up purchasing the jump potion to start HW which I then ended at around lv.64, so 4 levels higher than intended, again I really couldn't be bothered to play the patch quests, so went straight into Stormblood, which towards the end it synced back up with my character level & MSQ level requirements, I hit lv.70 at the lv.69 MSQ line quests, then went off to do my lv.70 SAM Job quest before carrying on with the MSQ, i'm about to do the last MSQ quest later, think it's taken me around 130 hours of game time from scratch to get there, probably could add another 30 hours on top if i'd had to do the added patch content.

It just sucks that to get into the HW & SB content you either have to grind through all the added patch content or pay for the jump potions.

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Originally Posted by SasoriSekinetsu

It just sucks that to get into the HW & SB content you either have to grind through all the added patch content or pay for the jump potions.

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What you call "grind", I call "play the game". What's the hurry to get to the later parts? That just means you will run out of content sooner rather than later.

Also new player and I unashamedly lend this threath to write down my toughts. As new player I am agree, road to 60 is OP, I am done nothing but MSQ, daily roulette and Grand Companion hunting log for seals. Also Fates, here and there. and I am lvl 38, MSQ is 26...I even did not tryed to outlevel. Imo, level buff should be available after you leveled first job. But other than that, Game is awesome. I read that this is wrong and that is wrong and people leave and SQ should fix this and that, but...you get tired and content get old and stuff start to annoy you after while in every game. I come from SWTOR played 6000h and I cant stand it anymore. It is still fun game for people who just started or just have still that drive. Sadly, it get old after while, I belive that same thing and same reasons are in every game. As new player, FF14 is extremely well done and really really fun. I love how you can, roll just 1 character and do about everything, never need to roll another one if you so wish. Grafting and gathering is actually fun in this game. Also, start from 50 or 60 or whatever it is here, should not be available for new players, that you actually need to level at least 1 job to max, before you can skip all content. Those are good things for veterean, but noobs like me and many other should not have acsess to them. I well remeber how annoyed I was in SWTOR Flashpoints( dungeons) when lvl 70 well geared player had no idea what to do with class or had never been in low level dungeon before...Leveling is for learning and seeing content at least once, that you have idea.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

What you call "grind", I call "play the game". What's the hurry to get to the later parts? That just means you will run out of content sooner rather than later.

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When it's 20 hours of content that does nothing to progress my character or the MSQ then I find that a grind, there was no real progression, the EXP points in those quests was pointless because they were introduced when the level was capped at 50 & due to that silly "road to 60" buff I was over that & had better lv gear than what was given. I've still got all the access to run the dungeons & trials though, so not missed the content from it I liked.

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Originally Posted by Broxott

Also, start from 50 or 60 or whatever it is here, should not be available for new players, that you actually need to level at least 1 job to max, before you can skip all content. Those are good things for veterean, but noobs like me and many other should not have acsess to them. I well remeber how annoyed I was in SWTOR Flashpoints( dungeons) when lvl 70 well geared player had no idea what to do with class or had never been in low level dungeon before...Leveling is for learning and seeing content at least once, that you have idea.

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I agree in part with that, I just think though that if you've purchased the game up to SB, then once you've completed "The Ultimate Weapon" at the end or ARR, then it should allow you to then do "Coming to Ishgard" immediately, rather than make you play through the 100 level 50 quests that were added through the patches, give the player the choice at least, because those 100 lv.50 quests offer nothing to progress your character. I totally agree that someone who's not played from lv.1 thought shouldn't be able to skip straight into lv.60

You can't enter Ishgard right after ultima for lore and story reasons. It progressed the story, yes you might not have been leveling with it. The same thing if you were to just hop into Stormblood after you finish 3.0 you'd have no idea why you'd be going to the places you're going to. Unless you don't really care about the story then I don't know what to say.

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Originally Posted by SasoriSekinetsu

When it's 20 hours of content that does nothing to progress my character or the MSQ then I find that a grind, there was no real progression

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Not progressing your character? Well they werent designed to. But if you dont think the patch line quests advanced the story then you clearly werent paying attention. The quest line starts out slowly, but from roughly patch 2.3 on through the end in 2.55(so about 70 of those 100 quests) everything is picking up steam and all the important pieces are getting put into the positions they need to be in. The fact that we're still paying off bits from those quests in the SB patchline 4 years later alone shows that they put a lot of important details into those 100 quests. And on top of that, they even listened to player feedback, as the HW patchline was only about 50 quests(and SB is shaping up to be about the same length) so that the same roadblocks werent as severe moving forward. Were these quests perfect? Oh god no, and theres certainly room to do a little trimming. But they arent as bad as people make them out to be either.

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Originally Posted by SasoriSekinetsu

When it's 20 hours of content that does nothing to progress my character or the MSQ [...]

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The patch-story MSQ is still the MSQ, and some really major events happen in it - like the actual climax of the Heavensward story, and a lot of important information. New characters are introduced. Others die or are farewelled or change dramatically. We've learned some incredibly important things in the recent patches.


Also, for keeping levels balanced, even without the Road to 60 benefit I found it was best to keep two active classes at a time to share EXP between them.

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Originally Posted by Frizze

Not progressing your character? Well they werent designed to. But if you dont think the patch line quests advanced the story then you clearly werent paying attention. The quest line starts out slowly, but from roughly patch 2.3 on through the end in 2.55(so about 70 of those 100 quests) everything is picking up steam and all the important pieces are getting put into the positions they need to be in. The fact that we're still paying off bits from those quests in the SB patchline 4 years later alone shows that they put a lot of important details into those 100 quests. And on top of that, they even listened to player feedback, as the HW patchline was only about 50 quests(and SB is shaping up to be about the same length) so that the same roadblocks werent as severe moving forward. Were these quests perfect? Oh god no, and theres certainly room to do a little trimming. But they arent as bad as people make them out to be either.

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Slowly is too kind a description for those patch MSQ quests, it was ridiculously padded & paced, honestly as a newcomer to the game, I was enjoying everything up until the 7th Astral Quests, I did try and make my way through them, but I really didn't enjoy it, I grabbed a jump potion & spent less than an hour reading up on the story arc from the end of ARR to HW, it allowed me to get into content I actually enjoyed again & allowed me to progress my character.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

The patch-story MSQ is still the MSQ, and some really major events happen in it - like the actual climax of the Heavensward story, and a lot of important information. New characters are introduced. Others die or are farewelled or change dramatically. We've learned some incredibly important things in the recent patches.


Also, for keeping levels balanced, even without the Road to 60 benefit I found it was best to keep two active classes at a time to share EXP between them.

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I wish I had kept two active classes, never mind !! I've got my SAM up to lv.70 through the MSQ, got my NIN up to lv.61 I think so far using the daily roulette's and beast tribe quests, along with some of the side quests I didn't complete.