Please let us disable interactive items

Please give us the option to disable certain interactive items. There are several reasons for why decorators would want this feature:

1. We are limited to ca. 40 interactionable items before they start disappearing.
2. Players, tenants, and FC mates may accidentally turn off “fountains” (shower stands), lights, etc.
3. FC mates eat expensive food decorations (especially new players who don’t know they just ate 100k sushi)
4. There are various items that don’t need interactivity once they have been set (blank partitions, decorative plants, fish tanks, etc.)

Obviously, some items need to keep their interactivity for all tenants and FC mates (summoning bells, FC chest, etc.) while others should only be interactionable for decorators (blank partitions, shower stands functioning as fountains etc.), so assigning permissions in settings might not be optimal. Especially considering that this wouldn’t help with the 40 item limit.

What I would like is for people with furnishing rights to get a menu item to disable the interaction. The issue with that would be that the interaction can not be turned back on once disabled. Maybe putting disabled furniture into storage and taking them back out would reset the interactivity until the player with furnishing rights disables the interactivity again.

Another way that could be used to deal with the issue in relation to partitions, planters, aquariums and the like would be to add a menu function similar to the painting furniture selection. They wouldn't be interactive in the house itself, but could still be changed via the menu.

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Originally Posted by Amelianut

Another way that could be used to deal with the issue in relation to partitions, planters, aquariums and the like would be to add a menu function similar to the painting furniture selection. They wouldn't be interactive in the house itself, but could still be changed via the menu.

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But... the paintings ARE interactive items - unless I'm missunderstanding you here and you dont mean the picture frames that you can place pictures in?

I think one thing they could do which would hopefully be easy enough to include would be a check-box in the sense of "Place this as interactive item - Yes/No".
The checkbox would appear each time you try to place the item, aka: You could place an aquarium as "interactive", fill it with the fish and decoration you want, put it back into storage and then re-place it, only by hitting "No" to interactive this time.
I know that it sounds a little annoying and messy to do, specially when considering wallpapers on partions and I have no idea how easy it would be to implement this, but at least it wouldnt change to much about the system as it.
We wouldnt need a recipe for every possible partition/wallpaper combination nor would we need recipes for "fake-food" (thats non interactive).

...trust me, I know how annoying decorating can be and how many clicks it already requires (I was wearing a bandage for two days after finishing decoarting the house of a friend), so I'm not thrilled to add more steps, but I would feel like those way and handling things that way, could be worth it... having the choice, for each item indivually, wether or not you want it to be interactive (right now) or not and easy (even if maybe a little inconvient) way to switch between the two states.

She means the colouring menu, where you choose a different option and can click on items to be painted. I've been saying this forever, we need a menu for all of the "interactive" that is simple housing-based, and not something you need to click on in the open. Instead of colouring the item you 1) choose the painting / 2) choose the wallpaper / 3) choose the fish / 4) choose the flowers from what's in your inventory. There's already menus for them so making them all in the painting/interactive menu just consolidates it and it lessens how many interactive items you have. "Interactive" should be reserved for items that do things/give affects when clicked on, not for items that you have to "set up".

Yeah that idea is similar to my disabling idea. I definitely want to have the option to eat empty the food and use the plate or bowl for certain designs but for other designs that actually incorporate the food, I don’t want people to be able to eat it.

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Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn

She means the colouring menu, where you choose a different option and can click on items to be painted. I've been saying this forever, we need a menu for all of the "interactive" that is simple housing-based, and not something you need to click on in the open. Instead of colouring the item you 1) choose the painting / 2) choose the wallpaper / 3) choose the fish / 4) choose the flowers from what's in your inventory. There's already menus for them so making them all in the painting/interactive menu just consolidates it and it lessens how many interactive items you have. "Interactive" should be reserved for items that do things/give affects when clicked on, not for items that you have to "set up".

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I genuinely think a replica of the dye menu is the best option, especially for partitions and flower vases. Use the wall paper/flowers in our inventory just the same as dye.

Another, far more complicated option, would be to take the items (this is mostly for food/flowers) to a vendor where you trade the items for one that is not interactive, and is strictly a prop. So you take your sushi to the vendor and get back a "false sushi" or you take the vase and flower of choice (just for annoyance sake, two of the flower type) and you get "false glade/oasis/riviera X type of flowers" (False Riviera Black Roses, for example). Could maybe do this for the partitions as well, but honestly, I really do feel like those should strictly function like the dye menu. It makes 0 sense for them not to.

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Originally Posted by not_ya_wify

Yeah that idea is similar to my disabling idea. I definitely want to have the option to eat empty the food and use the plate or bowl for certain designs but for other designs that actually incorporate the food, I don’t want people to be able to eat it.

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Maybe even put on the trade in vendor the option for "False Sushi" and "Empty Sushi Dish" or something.

I don't want to make a new thread since there are already so many on this topic.

Will this issue ever be addressed? They keep adding more and more new flowers, foods, and so on, but STILL there is a cap on interactive items. Give us some way to better manage this stuff, a lot of us want to display all these amazing things put into the game, but we simply can't because of the limit forced onto the items.

Is it true that the limit of 40 interactable items being visible is because 32 bit PCs can't handle it otherwise? At least I've heard something like that. If that's the case, why can't they make it like with the new bigger inventory window that only works with the DX11 launcher?

It's especially annoying with a large or even a medium house when you can place only 40 interactable items. I absolutely HATE it when they only pop up when you get close to them so I can never place more than 40. You already need a summoning bell, armoire, orchestrion, FC chest, crystal bell, flower pots and so on. Then if you put up a few picture frames and a few flower vases, an aquarium, musical instruments, a message book and so on you're already at like over 35. No way to use the wallpaper partitions or a table full of food like that.

With the partitions, they could have made it crafting recipes where you need a blank partition and a wallpaper to craft the finished item instead of making it interactable at least.

Realy doesn't help that they keep adding new things that then turn into interactive items. More flowers are great, but maybe fix the interactive item limit so we can actually dis play them all.

I would love for this to be addressed. Super inconvenient accidentally clicking on a fish tank and it spins my character around when have the camera angled a certain way. Same with clicking on walls and doting them instead of another character on accident!

Would it not be better to suggest them to increase the limit to 200 or something, likewise housing need an item space update now we add it, large need like at least 3-400 more as it go 200 cottage 300 medium 400 large now a day

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Would it not be better to suggest them to increase the limit to 200 or something, likewise housing need an item space update now we add it, large need like at least 3-400 more as it go 200 cottage 300 medium 400 large now a day

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That doesnt change a few problems that come with interactive items, though - food being eaten, even if its just supposed to be decoration; lamps and the like being turned on/off; painting being removed from frames, wallpapers from blank partions, fish and trimmings (both of which can be expensive and/or annoying to obtain) from fishtanks...

While I wouldnt mind an increased itemlimit - dont get me wrong here - that wouldnt fix these issues. Having a 100 more items to place in the FC-house isnt going to keep our resident "FC clown" (nice guy, just has an annoying humor once in a while) from eating the cake I put on the table with the intention of having that cake on that table, not an empty plate. There is currently no setting to prevent people from messing with these things - beside giving them a stern talking to.

If I'm not mistaken we can already give people the right to change music (aka: use the orchestrion - though I think everyone can interact with it, but someone who doesnt have rights will only see the playlist/what title is being played right now) aswell as things related to the guestbook (greeting; hiding/approving comments). Something like this is needed for other interactive items aswell.

Just has someone strip all the rare fish out of our fish tanks and replace them with BS fish.... some of those have stupidly rare windows only for someone to just flip them out.

The ability to change paintings and change fish needs to be a housing option to be disabled.

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Originally Posted by HaffenManaheart

Just has someone strip all the rare fish out of our fish tanks and replace them with BS fish.... some of those have stupidly rare windows only for someone to just flip them out.

The ability to change paintings and change fish needs to be a housing option to be disabled.

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Except it's their house. too. Why are you not giving all your members a say in how the FC house is decorated?

That is slightly sarcastic, by the way, though only slightly. The problem demonstrates why people who say "if you want a house, join a FC' are clueless. Control over the primary housing feature - decorating - is generally locked tight under officer control. Members aren't allowed to participate.

I suspect that SE won't change it for a couple of reasons. First, there's probably a code limitation. Second, it's the only way the general members have to participate in decorating their FC house.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Except it's their house. too. Why are you not giving all your members a say in how the FC house is decorated?

That is slightly sarcastic, by the way, though only slightly. The problem demonstrates why people who say "if you want a house, join a FC' are clueless. Control over the primary housing feature - decorating - is generally locked tight under officer control. Members aren't allowed to participate.

I suspect that SE won't change it for a couple of reasons. First, there's probably a code limitation. Second, it's the only way the general members have to participate in decorating their FC house.

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That is a pretty weak argument, considering that we can already set permissions to place/remove furniture (even specific types of "furniture" aka retainers), to dye furniture, to use the orchestrion, to even enter the building in the first place - just to mention a few.

"Its their house, too" - sure, but right now I can block them from entering the house alltogether. Eating the food on display or taking the fishs out of the fishtank is not "participating in decorating". And if SE wanted every FC-member to have a default say in how the FC-house looks, they wouldnt haven given us the permission settings in the first place.
They've shown that they're able to implement permission settings like this and that they're willing to do so - maybe the code can only handle so many permission settings, who knows. But your second argument is just nonsense, given the permission settings we already have.

I 100% support this. I have a lot of food and drink items out in my apartment that I don't want people eating. Being able to turn interactivity on/off to keep people from eating the decorations would be wonderful!

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Originally Posted by Illmaeran

I 100% support this. I have a lot of food and drink items out in my apartment that I don't want people eating. Being able to turn interactivity on/off to keep people from eating the decorations would be wonderful!

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If its in your apartment or your FC-room, no one but you is able to interact with it - so no one (except yourself) can eat it.
In your own house only you and your tenants can interact with things - again, visitors wont be able to touch the food.

...so the only "problem" are FC-houses where all members can interact with all interactive furniture - even if that allows for potential abuse or even innocent mistakes to happen. It would be very useful if we could have settings to prevent both.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

"Its their house, too" - sure, but right now I can block them from entering the house alltogether. Eating the food on display or taking the fishs out of the fishtank is not "participating in decorating". And if SE wanted every FC-member to have a default say in how the FC-house looks, they wouldnt haven given us the permission settings in the first place.

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And there is also the inverted case in which you do want people in the FC to both place and eat some food (like a birthday cake), while not giving them access to other things.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

If its in your apartment or your FC-room, no one but you is able to interact with it - so no one (except yourself) can eat it.
In your own house only you and your tenants can interact with things - again, visitors wont be able to touch the food.

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I learned something new today, thank you! That's pretty fantastic news as well. My wallet and required grinding time both thank you for the insight.

I posted this thread in 2018 and it's hilarious (in a bad way) that this issue still hasn't been addressed 4 years later...