Think you over buffed Samurai big time

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09-12-2018, 05:05 AM
snipski

Think you over buffed Samurai big time

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...85/unknown.png

This is the data from the pvp qualifers.

They have the best mobility of all jobs they a 3500 potency attack that can be used every 10 seconds and and shiten to that basicly a mini safeguard that reflects dmg to the attacker.

How is this fair compared to the other melee jobs even new players picking up the class are doing well with it.
09-12-2018, 09:51 AM
Razzii

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Originally Posted by snipski

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...85/unknown.png

This is the data from the pvp qualifers.

They have the best mobility of all jobs they a 3500 potency attack that can be used every 10 seconds and and shiten to that basicly a mini safeguard that reflects dmg to the attacker.

How is this fair compared to the other melee jobs even new players picking up the class are doing well with it.

Just get gud
09-12-2018, 10:06 AM
Nova_Rox

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Originally Posted by Razzii

Just get gud

Can we buff BRD while we're talking about buffs and nerfs?
09-12-2018, 12:02 PM
Ramesses

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Originally Posted by snipski

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...85/unknown.png

This is the data from the pvp qualifers.

They have the best mobility of all jobs they a 3500 potency attack that can be used every 10 seconds and and shiten to that basicly a mini safeguard that reflects dmg to the attacker.

How is this fair compared to the other melee jobs even new players picking up the class are doing well with it.

Interesting but can you also provide link the rest of the page/report/discussion? I've just returned to playing my Samurai again and definitely enjoy the high damage even while securing optimization of movement. However, I'd liked to examine + research your source.
09-12-2018, 12:50 PM
snipski

I dont have more info on that but the class didnt even need buffs to begin with it was fine before SE just sucks at balancing classes in this game, and i dont think i need to get "Gud" ive been diamond rank for every season pretty much on Ninja and i was top pvper back in Wow arena, Aion and TERA, i can just tell when classes sticks out being better then the rest. How is 3500 burst every 10 seconds fair to say Ninja with bhava 2500 potency 40 sec and assassinate on a fucking 1 min cd, the bind that makes the class stand out from other melees nerfed to oblivion being 2 seconds only also.

Good burst is everything in a pvp mode like this peace!
09-12-2018, 02:38 PM
Araxes

Oh great. My mainjob is op. Now every time i win i'll just get "Because Samurai".

Nerf me pls.
09-12-2018, 10:22 PM
Razzii

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Originally Posted by snipski

i dont think i need to get "Gud" ive been diamond rank for every season pretty much on Ninja and i was top pvper back in Wow arena, Aion and TERA, i can just tell when classes sticks out being better then the rest. How is 3500 burst every 10 seconds fair to say Ninja with bhava 2500 potency 40 sec and assassinate on a fucking 1 min cd, the bind that makes the class stand out from other melees nerfed to oblivion being 2 seconds only also.

That 3500 burst has a cast timer where as bhava is instant. I agree NIN needs aliddo buff but saying SAM is broken because of Midare shows how liddo you know of the class.
Spamming matchs and marking ppl to ignore doesnt necessarily make you a "top pvper" FYI.
09-13-2018, 01:22 AM
Cleanse

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Originally Posted by Ramesses

Interesting but can you also provide link the rest of the page/report/discussion? I've just returned to playing my Samurai again and definitely enjoy the high damage even while securing optimization of movement. However, I'd liked to examine + research your source.

https://pvpaissa.com/article/frc2018...-brian-and-joe
09-13-2018, 02:56 AM
Crit

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Originally Posted by snipski

I dont have more info on that but the class didnt even need buffs to begin with it was fine before SE just sucks at balancing classes in this game, and i dont think i need to get "Gud" ive been diamond rank for every season pretty much on Ninja and i was top pvper back in Wow arena, Aion and TERA, i can just tell when classes sticks out being better then the rest. How is 3500 burst every 10 seconds fair to say Ninja with bhava 2500 potency 40 sec and assassinate on a fucking 1 min cd, the bind that makes the class stand out from other melees nerfed to oblivion being 2 seconds only also.

Good burst is everything in a pvp mode like this peace!

Played other games and you're still a joke melee dam
09-13-2018, 03:40 AM
snipski

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Originally Posted by Crit

Played other games and you're still a joke melee dam

Yeah my Light Party Team got rank 1 in the preliminaries, but we had members who couldnt go to fanfest so we couldnt take part in the qualifiers.
You think i care about some random angry kid insulting me on these forums, im 34 years old i have my own house and familiy, Im just stating facts that samurai is overpowered right now and i know alot of ppl agree with me.
09-13-2018, 06:01 AM
ManuelBravo

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Originally Posted by snipski

Yeah my Light Party Team got rank 1 in the preliminaries, but we had members who couldnt go to fanfest so we couldnt take part in the qualifiers.
You think i care about some random angry kid insulting me on these forums, im 34 years old i have my own house and familiy, Im just stating facts that samurai is overpowered right now and i know alot of ppl agree with me.

Hmmm it seems that way, I think it's more based on players, gear and skills. People who complain about seem to misunderstand something -.- Sam has skills that make them a power house. Those who know how to take advantage and properly know their job have a better advantage than those who think they know the job. Sam has a lot of combinations that can be linked with other roles to make it more effective. As long as it's well geared and use CD and skills properly it's as good as MNK or DRG. Nin with a SAM make a great pair when in sync with their CD's. If anything most players think they know a job. Let's face it nobody likes to be told how to play a job, however those who can keep an open mind learn to play it better or realize that they have been missing on some steps in their rotation.

On that Note I've come across many SAM who really have no idea how their CD work or when to use them. They claim to be experts -.-/
09-13-2018, 08:11 AM
oLLiCS

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Originally Posted by ManuelBravo

Hmmm it seems that way, I think it's more based on players, gear and skills. People who complain about seem to misunderstand something -.- Sam has skills that make them a power house. Those who know how to take advantage and properly know their job have a better advantage than those who think they know the job. Sam has a lot of combinations that can be linked with other roles to make it more effective. As long as it's well geared and use CD and skills properly it's as good as MNK or DRG. Nin with a SAM make a great pair when in sync with their CD's. If anything most players think they know a job. Let's face it nobody likes to be told how to play a job, however those who can keep an open mind learn to play it better or realize that they have been missing on some steps in their rotation.

On that Note I've come across many SAM who really have no idea how their CD work or when to use them. They claim to be experts -.-/

Welcome to the PvP section of this forum. May I guide you to the PvE section now -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/f...ral-Discussion
09-13-2018, 08:15 AM
Kaiche

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09-13-2018, 08:21 AM
Razzii

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManuelBravo

Hmmm it seems that way, I think it's more based on players, gear and skills. People who complain about seem to misunderstand something -.- Sam has skills that make them a power house. Those who know how to take advantage and properly know their job have a better advantage than those who think they know the job. Sam has a lot of combinations that can be linked with other roles to make it more effective. As long as it's well geared and use CD and skills properly it's as good as MNK or DRG. Nin with a SAM make a great pair when in sync with their CD's. If anything most players think they know a job. Let's face it nobody likes to be told how to play a job, however those who can keep an open mind learn to play it better or realize that they have been missing on some steps in their rotation.

On that Note I've come across many SAM who really have no idea how their CD work or when to use them. They claim to be experts -.-/

What da...
09-13-2018, 09:32 AM
RiyahArp

um, well the top players will ALWAYS find and exploit the most effective job or combo of jobs, so it doesn't really matter. If you nerf sam, they all will switch to nin or something. That's why you never bother with esport level play for balancing; overwatch has tried and it's been a revolving door of buffs and nerfs to whatever heroes the pro players use at the moment.
09-13-2018, 11:04 AM
Ramesses

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Originally Posted by Cleanse

https://pvpaissa.com/article/frc2018...-brian-and-joe

Thanks for this
09-14-2018, 09:49 AM
Sunako

Samurai was also only melee job in previous patch that not get any potency buff once they boost jobs max hp. I dont think that 500 extra potency for midare really make that big difference. Ninja just got 250 potency for raiton that they can use twice more often.

4.2 patch notes
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...33e139e9792abf