In the other discussions on the Moonfire Faire, I saw that a few people said they couldn't manage the jump puzzles required to complete the quest and get their new beachwear. Maybe they got there in the end, but if not, I've put together a map of how to do that first bit of the climb. (Somewhat late, I admit, but at least I got to doing it before the event ended.)
I'm not great at jumping puzzles either, but after a few times through it trying to make at least some progress on the "challenge level" of the tower, it feels fairly straightforward - and I'd hate for people to miss out on completing the quest because of it.
As I noted in the instructions on the image, I'd recommend not equipping rogue/ninja class to complete this climb. It helps for the upper part of the tower, but if I fell off and had to do this section again, I found I was often jumping over rather than onto platforms. It was easier if I switched back to a different class.
Also, for the earlier second part of the obstacle course with the 'balance beams', you don't need to jump to lower beams but can simply run off the edge of the higher beam and drop down to it.
The short version: do yellow jumps from a standing position, and red jumps with a running start.
https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...675b8eaa2f.jpg
(click the image for a slightly larger version)
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08-25-2018, 03:49 PMIscahHow to climb the Moonfire Tower (if you're not great at jump puzzles)
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08-25-2018, 05:49 PMYzuna
I'm sorry if that sounds rude, because it isn't meant to be, but people really struggle with this ?
That you miss-jump and fall a few times, sure, we all did. But really struggle to a point where you really cannot make it ? Where is the problem ? Where do you struggle and why ?
The optionnal part IS hard though, no doubt about that.
Anyway, nice visual guide ! And again, don't take this the wrong way, I'm genuinely curious. -
08-25-2018, 06:08 PMIscah
Personally, I (and presumably the creators) thought the event seemed designed well enough for everyone to complete, maybe with a bit of practice, but there are people in this current thread and this one last week, saying it was too hard and they couldn't do it. So I thought it would be helpful to make a guide even though I'm not sure how needed it is.
Having had the idea, I would have felt bad if I hadn't gotten around to it. -
08-25-2018, 06:33 PMBillyKaplan
Another tip is to turn this into a 2D jumping puzzle. Have the camera face the wall, then use the strafe options. Won't work for everyone, but it gets me through most jumps.
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08-25-2018, 06:37 PMIscah
I didn't even think of not playing it as a 2D puzzle (other than the narrow beam that you need to see in 3D space). Is that maybe how some people were having trouble with it?
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08-25-2018, 10:32 PMKisaiTenshiI didn't find any difficulty in any of it, and I even tried it once on the controller. So it seems like if someone is having a problem with it, it's the way they're trying to climb it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yzuna
For reference this is how I did it with my Miqo'te:
https://youtu.be/ngnzyBrQqHE
I initially did it with a lalafell, and there is a slight difference with the lalafell as they can clear the 5 to 6 point on the image, where as all taller players and players on mount have to jump to between the posts on either side of 6, or aim the camera so you land on 6, but in front of the post, which sticks out a little.
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08-25-2018, 10:45 PMIscah
Platform 6 sticks out slightly further than the other platforms. As long as you jump towards the front edge of it*, you should always end up on it because of the target circle 'standing zone' physics.
* probably should have mentioned that on the instructions. -
08-25-2018, 11:13 PMGemina
The ironic thing about the rogue/ninja class is that considering how dexterous ninjas are supposed to be, they should have the easiest time clearing this! :p
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08-25-2018, 11:31 PMIscah
A further thought on this...
I said before that I wouldn't think of doing it any other way. This may be a critical difference between PC/keyboard and PS4/controller players. I'm using PS4 and I'm not sure if I can strafe or walk backwards, but my character will walk forwards in whatever direction I press the analogue stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyKaplan
Can you only walk forwards 'into' the screen with keyboard controls?
Indeed! And NPCs keep dropping hints about ninjas as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemina
Too much fancy jumping, not enough paying attention. -
08-26-2018, 12:05 AMBillyKaplanIt depends a lot on what camera mode you're using, I guess. I use the classic mode and the wasd buttons. I don't want to have the camera at my chara's back because it's harder for me to gauge distance like that, but a and d not only move you, but change the camera angel as well. That's why strafe is good for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iscah
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08-26-2018, 12:15 AMKisaiTenshiThe difference is that on the keyboard, the camera isn't fixed (at least in the default controls) So pressing forward always puts the camera behind you. I have a tendency to always hold down the right mouse button while moving, which is how I climbed the tower by holding down the camera button. So a light tap to W and A and hit space, light tap to W and D hit space to climb up that last section. So doing this keyboard-only (no mouse) would always result in the camera position being reset, possibly to awkward angles, and players on mounts blocking smaller players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iscah
This probably should have been setup as a time-trial, It takes 100 seconds from quest start to quest finish for me including the time taken to talk to the NPC's. -
08-26-2018, 12:28 AMIsanneI had problems with it for a week or so due to a badly healed broken hand, and I can see other players with physical limitations having issues too. That said, I have a funny feeling that some of those complaining about this are doing it out of laziness. I do however miss Ultros and the Fates of the years prior.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yzuna
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08-26-2018, 03:28 AMCanadaneThey kinda do. They can even skip a couple spots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemina
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08-26-2018, 05:28 AMyexieI'm actually very bad and impatient at these jumping puzzles, but I made it first try, so I thought it wasn't that hard, I'm surprised people actually (still) struggle with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yzuna
And I totally agree, its very nice visual guide. I want one for all the jumping puzzles in the game. Please! -
08-26-2018, 06:15 AMRowde
Now do the top part!
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08-26-2018, 11:04 AMIscahIf only!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rowde
I made it as far as the second deck and around two sides of the cube, but those jumps onto the corner pegs... D:
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08-26-2018, 12:21 PMAppleJinx
I thought this guide was gonna be on getting to the top of the tower but as it stands right now I doubt this will be useful to a lot of people
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08-26-2018, 02:28 PMInkstainedGwynOn the contrary, there have been a lot of folks complaining that they couldn't get to the main platform, where you need to go for the quest. The top of the tower is gravy, but not necessary to get the event items, which are what people want. Different people come to this with different levels of jumping-puzzle skill (and the xiv hitboxes are really kinda out there tbh) so short of ferrying them herself, this is more helpful than all of the responses saying "it's so easy why can't you do it."Quote:
Originally Posted by AppleJinx
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08-26-2018, 02:34 PMJohnSeal
I did it exactly the moment had been released and I found it fun (: It’s easy except for few phases. Still many people are not familiar with this kind of mini games that’s all :D I realise it’s much more difficult on computer than PS4, my bf did it on computer and it took much more than to me so just try again and again!!
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08-26-2018, 03:52 PMJib
Hummm funny. I actually prefered to do it as a ninja!
I found it easier... maybe because of the animation of the jump.
I don’t know. But hey as long as it works use what you like right. -
08-26-2018, 06:42 PMPaladinleedsOn the contrary, I nailed it near enough first try on PC. My friend on PS4 spent about an hour just try. I think it depends on how used to the control scheme you are tbh. I have about 10 years of experience of keyboard and mouse MMOs. So it all just fits in naturally for me. Not sure how experienced my friend is with MMORPG on controller...Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnSeal
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08-27-2018, 03:41 AMmicropanther7Apologies for the "me too" post but yeah... those pegs D: I had a nightmare time with them, but at least my jumping skills have improved :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Iscah