Is spending 5 quid the only way to get these potions? These would be a great gill sink. A vendor could sell them for 1m a pot. Why do they charge for these, it's greedy and annoying!
Fantasia
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08-24-2018, 06:02 AMaddz3Fantasia
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08-24-2018, 06:07 AMValkyrie_LennethNo game gives out free race change/char appearance editing potions...Quote:
Originally Posted by addz3
At least none that i've played. -
08-24-2018, 06:27 AMRymmThis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
If you want to change something simple like your hair or make-up, there is the Aesthetician to do that for you. Also I know there are a few quests that give Fantasias to you. It's been so long that I've forgotten which, but that's how the ones sitting on my retainer got there. -
08-24-2018, 06:29 AMJackHatchet
I've always wanted Square-Enix to let you trade fantasias on the market board. It could work like Blizzard's Warcraft Token. People with dollars can buy fantasias and exchange them for gil from people with excess gil. It wouldn't act as a gil-sink since the gil stays within the system, but it balances it out more.
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08-24-2018, 06:31 AMTheMightyMollusk
The only quest that gives a Fantasia is for clearing the Praetorium at the end of the ARR main story.
Used to get one in the mail as a veteran reward, but that's gone now. But if you got that one before, you'll still get it when making a new character on the same account, and you'll still get one for the above quest. -
08-24-2018, 06:36 AMOurMomBDO does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
They give out free character changes plus their sub comes with the option to change your character whenever. They also give out free 7 day subs like crazy.... -
08-24-2018, 06:43 AMRymmAh, maybe that's where I got them from. Honestly, I have no intention of using them so I just dropped them in storage and forgot about them. I don't even remember exactly how long they've been in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk
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08-24-2018, 06:46 AMJunseiKeiBDO is also a buy once, play for free with a P2W cash shop. Not exactly the same model.Quote:
Originally Posted by OurMom
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08-24-2018, 06:54 AMOurMomNo one mentioned model, someone said "No game gives out free race change/char appearance editing potions..."Quote:
Originally Posted by JunseiKei
And that's false, cause BDO does regardless of pay model. Plus it has a sub optional or not it's still a sub. -
08-24-2018, 06:57 AMRowde
There are some games that allow this.
That being said, for it to be an actual gil sink... I feel like Fantasia would have to cost a bit more than 1m... maybe even somewhere between 5m ~ 10m.
I do think they'd need to remain untradeable at least.
It's not something that is outside the realm of possibility, as they did make changes to the premium dyes already. -
08-24-2018, 07:01 AMMahrzeI'm not against the idea suggested and obviously there would be varying degrees on what constitutes as "gil sink". But I also don't believe it'll happen at all since its been their most sold item for years since the cash shop was released.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rowde
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08-24-2018, 07:06 AMIlanWould be a good gil sink, but its way better to earn money. Has also nothing to do with greed because SE is a company and has to generate money.Quote:
Originally Posted by addz3
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08-24-2018, 07:07 AMFredco191
I’m a Fantasia addict. So I’d like this.
But who’d sell them? -
08-24-2018, 07:10 AMJojoyaTrying to think of a MMO that offers complete character recustomizations without charging real money.Quote:
Originally Posted by addz3
Drawing a blank. In fact, most of them charge at least twice as much.
You should be thankful it's so cheap you're not paying as much every time you change your mind about your character. -
08-24-2018, 07:10 AMDuskane
They won't put it in a in game vendor it's the top seller 95% of the time.
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08-24-2018, 07:26 AMJunseiKeiThe rest of the quote was "that they played."Quote:
Originally Posted by OurMom
Only one I can think of and that would be Perfect World international. I know you could buy the item off of a player, but I don't recall if you could get the item without gaining it through some means of the cash shop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jojoya
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08-24-2018, 07:29 AMOurMomThe first part still implied that no game does it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JunseiKei
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08-24-2018, 07:32 AMJunseiKeiWhile the second implies they might not know of that many MMOs to make an accurate blanket statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by OurMom
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08-24-2018, 08:18 AMaddz3I just think with the amount of the sub we have to pay they should be included? If the model is f2p then I get it but this game isn't. It's greedy to charge a sub and have a cash shop? They could at least put them on the market board like dyes. I'd rather pay 5m than 5 quid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilan
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08-24-2018, 08:26 AMKaurhz
If I had to give any input, I personally wouldn't have these accessible by means of gil, alternatively. I would say you get; 1 Fantasia for each base expansion MSQ completed(2.0/3.0/4.0 story lines), then for further fantasias I would have them available with achievement certificates, 75-150 certificates per fantasia. Alongside having them purchasable on the Mogstation, of course.
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08-24-2018, 08:28 AMVrankylThe only comparable MMO that we can use for this cost comparison is the only other successful Sub based game, World of Warcraft. In World of Warcraft in addition to your monthly sub cost you have three options for changing character customization. A $15 Appearance Change which covers only appearances and gender, a $25 race change which only covers changing to a race within the same Faction, and a $30 Faction change to change to a race outside of your current faction. This is compared to our $10 Fantasia which allows you to change EVERYTHING for with a single service. Now I'm not entirely certain how this works since I left before they added the in-game token, but if the token is a 1-1 currency change that means you need to spend twice the amount of gold to get enough shop currency to buy a race change than you do your sub. So all in all... I think we have it pretty great tbh. Even in the other MMOs I played race changes usually costed about $20-$30 worth of real currency, and their in game currency to shop currency exchanges always required someone to be footing the actual monetary bill at some point.Quote:
Originally Posted by addz3
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08-24-2018, 12:07 PMEnkidoh
Getting back to the original poster's initial question, yes, it is (or rather, was) possible to get up to 4 free bottles of Fantasia, but the ways for doing so are either no longer available or extremely difficult now.
A free bottle of Fantasia was included with the physical Collector's Editions of A Realm Reborn and Heavensward (but not Stormblood). The physical Collector's Editions were only available in pre-order however and are thus are almost impossible to find now (although I think you can get these items through the 'Digital Upgrade Service' that SE offered that allows you to gain the included items with the CEs on a 'standard' copy of the game, but this costs extra).
A third bottle was given free to players who created a character in the original 1.0 version of FFXIV several years ago now (it was sent through the Moogle Delivery System).
Finally a fourth bottle was an early Veteran Reward for subscribing to the game for a certain length of time (2 months if I remember rightly). This was removed when SE overhauled the Veteran Rewards system when SB launched, and temporarily made the Fantasia a quest reward for completing the original '2.0' main scenario in the game accordingly (in other words, the main scenario quest 'The Ultimate Weapon'), but as I understand it that has since been removed sadly, with no other way to acquire it I'm afraid.
Either way, fantasia is/has been offered to players for free, but these incidences are the exception rather than the rule unfortunately, so purchasing Fantasia through the Mogstation is the only real way to acquire more. As there are more than a few 'Fantasia addicts' out there, this may not necessarily be a bad thing. ;) -
08-24-2018, 06:16 PMIlanNo it shouldn't. You pay to be able to play the game, you pay that the game gets patches and that it gets the needed maintenance. Your sub doesn't include extras like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by addz3
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08-25-2018, 01:55 AMNiwashiIt came with the Collector's Edition of Heavensward, but not A Realm Reborn. (HW got one because of Au Ra being introduced.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Enkidoh
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08-25-2018, 03:58 AMPaladinleedsI know RuneScape does. Not quite the same ballgame as it's a very low quality game in terms of graphics compared to Final Fantasy and even World of Warcraft. Can change your default clothes for free in Varrock, hair in Falador, and gender and skin colour just southwest of Falador.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jojoya