Advice for an Anxiety-Ridden Healer

Haha... the title says it all. But I need help. I love running dungeons.

Light parties? Great! I can do this.

Standard parties? Ok... 8 people... I can do this....

24 player parties? WHAT IS GOING ON. I CAN'T SEE. HAVE I GONE BLIND? WHO AM I HEALING?!

Yeah... It gets nerve wrecking when most of my screen is taken up with health bars and there are so many mobs and players on my screen. It kind of takes the fun out of running dungeons. But I know that it should not.

So, I need help? How does a Healer (WHM) on a PS4 keep up with it all? How do I stay the amazing healer that I know I can be, without going crazy over what to do?

This is a call to all the Healers out there? How do you cope with it? Do you have any tricks of the trade? Any advice for a PS4 user (AND NO. Saying get a PC is not an option. Yes yes.. master race and all that but... no)? I think this is a good place to post this (IE the Healer Roles forum) but still...

HELP?!

The easiest way to make 24-mans easy and not overwhelming? Experience.

I remember my first 24-man; I hated it, and I never wanted to do another one. It was utter chaos, and I wasn’t even a healer during it. Now, I enjoy them; I especially enjoy healing them. For me, queuing into them more often and getting comfortable with them was what made them less anxiety-ridden. On all three roles. Having friends there with me also helped, as they would take up the role of my co-healer or of the tank to try and make things a bit easier on me as I adjusted to 24-mans. After a while, I no longer needed them to necessarily heal with me or tank for me.

For the screen clutter, there are options to turn off some of the noise from Alliances besides your own:
Under Character Configuration > Display Name Settings > Others, you can choose from a variety of options to try and make things not so cluttered on your screen. For example, I generally do not display the names of players in other alliances unless we’re in combat. This gets rid of useless noise that I don’t need to see between bosses. You can choose to completely hide the names and HP bars of other alliances if you so choose. I simply choose not to because I may need to raise one of them, or help out with healing if the healers in that alliance are struggling.

I would also recommend moving around your HUD—particularly the Alliance Lists. I find them in the way in their default position. I keep mine directly under my Party List, which is moved slightly from the default position, just so all health bars are in one spot. But you need to figure out whatever works well for you with regards to your HUD layout and settings.

Always focus on yourself first and foremost. You stay alive first, then healing the tank, and then the dps.
Focus on the mechanics. Don't bother about others maybe doing it wrong. YOu may do them wrong, happens, don't beat yourself up over it.

Is the tank your tank or the one of another alliance in a 24 man? If from another alliance, their healers should heal him. If yours, it's just like in 8 mans.

If you happen to be new: Tell your party or the whole alliance, at least one person hopefully will tell you basic mechanics.

Some people might be mean about it but if you do not feel comfortable with dpsing, don't do it. Tell them clear as day, you want to know what's going on first so you're concentrating on healing.

ALWAYS focus target the main boss. Always. There are a lot of times you do not target the boss and therefore would not know what mechanic comes next. And that leads to confusion on your part, if you see it, you can react to it. If not, it comes out of nowhere.

Play around with your hud.
Where do you see your party members the best?
Where is the best for boss/team healthbars?
Where should your focus target be so you can always see what aboss does?
Where to put your castbars?
I do think it makes a lot of difference if you don't have to search all over the place to get those informations fast.
You can also make them smaller if they're too big for you

Take a deep breath.
Everybody dies but the tank is alive and so are you?
Swiftcast raise the other healer
Keep the tank alive.
Keep yourself alive, like mentioned before.
Mostly might end up in a wipe but keeping people alive> instantly needing to res them. If you have time to hardcast res? Fine, do it. If not, then don't, you're not a miracle maker.
But don't let anybody tell you you're doing something wrong by not instantly ressing them and all.

Try to get used to things at your own pace. Tell your team that you may be abit slow sometimes(maybe?) but do your best.

Just don't let yourself be pressured by others, not everybody is a walking godhealer out of nowhere and there are things you can not prevent.

Try turning down (or off) particle effects for non-party members. Character Config > Control Settings > Character. That helps a LOT to reduce screen clutter in alliances.

You cope with it by forgiving yourself when you make a mistake.

It's that simple. You're going to make mistakes until you learn the content. Accept this, and it'll be easier to laugh about it.

Last night, my WHM girlfriend had to do Lakshmi. I hop on RDM thinking, "Yep, I'll help out." I die before anyone else because I forget to use Vrill a second time. The rest of the party wipes because both healers stack, but no one else does -- healers explode. We all feel like idiots.

People are worried, everyone's scared that they messed up. You know how it goes. I say: "No one remembers this crap. I haven't done it since Stormblood's release." Two player commendations.

Forgive yourself -- forgive others -- make sure to console people when mistakes are made -- everyone has a good time.

Hey there, PS4 player here, too. The most common problem we run into in 24-man raids is the HUD taking up half the screen. Resize everything, even move some boxes closer to the edge of the screen. Like Brightamethyst said, turn off particle effects from other party members. I think I even removed seeing the names of non-party members, too, can't recall exactly how but it helps a lot.

Where's the best place to stand? Between your tank/melee and row 4 range DPS, occasionally your AoE heals will miss a derp bard or two but don't worry about it. You'll get the hang of it eventually and even be able to raise non-party healers.

The vast majority of advice given so far has been spot on so I don't want to just repeat things. Some other stuff I think can be relevant...

24 mins (like anything) will get a lot easier with practice. I think healers in 24mans tend to see a bit more of a need to move for mechanics because mechanics tend to target the tank or some of the rest of the alliance where as in 8mans some mechanics tend to land more on dps. Be ready to move when you don't know what is coming next.

Recognize attack names so you can precast the appropriate heal to land when the attack hits. Something quite a few bosses do is (attack that needs healing)+(mech that will effect at least some healers) to delay your ability to heal.

I tend to burn Swiftcast a lot more in 24mans than other content. I pop it for everything. Saving it for deaths can be nice if someone dies but if I can prevent that death from happening by using Swiftcast I come out better off on the other side of things.

If you can without it being much of a pain (I don't know I haven't played on controller in a long time) toss a Regen on the main tank sometimes even when they aren't your tank. You'll learn to recognize the bosses that are a bit rougher to heal through and it's just nice to help out. I know as far as early on things I love when people do this for the first boss of World of Darkness as his laser beam hits hard and if tanks don't dodge the floor color mech on top of it they can drop fast.

Lastly just remember to have confidence. You've completed a lot of content to get to your level, be proud of it!

As cold as it may sound, healing is a matter of priorities. This is ultimately true regardless of the content.

First, do mechanics. Even if others need healing. You can't heal anyone if you're dead.
Then heal the tank. (Well, in a 24 man, can skip this unless they're MTing).
After that, heal the DPS, those that are in range with priority. Party/AoE healing also has priority - don't let the party die because 1 person ate something and got low. If people start dying, rez those that can also rez first.

Your party's in good shape? Ok, now you can start worrying about the other alliances. Rez dead healers as a priority and honestly, you can (and probably should) pretty much ignore the rest of the alliance after that.

Others have mentioned the UI - I can't stress the importance of customizing your healer UI to work for you. There's a lot to see, and consolidating it in a way that makes sense for your eyes will ease the stress of looking around everywhere and getting lost. This takes playing around - and if the PS4 Alliance bars are indeed huge like Jellybums mentioned above, shrinking them might help a lot! I know my own are smaller than default on PC.

I also agree with turning down others' particle effects if you haven't before. There are settings to show limited or no particle effects from others in your party/alliance and not in your party. With 24 people tossing Flares and Bahamuts and holies and magical sword rains, it's just even more visual clutter that can overwhelm. Sometimes this makes it hard to see things a boss is doing that you need to be able to see. I've also turned off non-party names and shortened the party names I do see to First name, Last initial. It's simply more clutter for me.

As a mouse/keyboard player I don't know what the default for targeting other alliances is. There might be better ways to scroll through them? Others with gamepads / PS4 usage can probably shed some light.

Risvertasashi is also correct in the sense of priorities existing. With how healing is designed in this game, your priority is your party, so go in with a similar mindset that you'd often have with other 8 mans. From running a lot of 24m raids, I think most here will agree with me that cross-alliance healing doesn't occur that often, even when it comes to the MT. It's always welcome to see that benediction go off on the DPS you can't reach on the other side of the arena, but I wouldn't count on it. As such, the healers in the other groups aren't expecting you to heal their groups, so it's okay to not keep an eagle eye on the other two alliances at all times and focus primarily on your own party. Try to keep an eye out for which alliance you are (A, B, C) as sometimes people will put markers for those respective groups and you might be confused why everyone is running around.

Of note, if you do see healers dying in other alliances, particularly if both of them in one alliance are gone, raising one of them is a good idea if you have the time.

It will always help to run something with people you're comfortable with. Friends, FC members, linkshell members - if you've got any of those, that can take off a lot of stress since you know that person isn't gonna jump at you for making a mistake. I'd consider putting some party finders up, maybe even with just another healer slot to mention that you're a little new and overwhelmed and are hoping to do a run with some relaxed or experienced players. You may find someone; I don't know how often people check for things like that but I know there's good Samaritans out there that don't mind lending a hand.

People are doing to die and do dumb things in 24 man content. It's just how it goes. Try to remember that 24m is designed to be very forgiving and friendly. Try to remember it's okay if people fall over in the content and do your best to pick them up when it seems viable. I know that doesn't help anxiety much in the heat of moment, but try to keep that thought back there that it's okay, and you're here to help fix it.

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As for general healing anxiety? It helps to run with people who you know are more relaxed and aren't going to flare up at a mistake if you have the option, and like all things it will take practice. It can suck to be thrust into something when you feel everyone else has already seen it. If you're okay with spoiling yourself, you can always look at some guides online for brief overviews. While it will still take time to get used to fight timings, you'll feel a little more comfortable studying up on fights beforehand. That's really a personal preference thing, as I'm not going to demand anyone go watch videos for content they've never experienced before should they not want to, but it is an option available to you that may decrease some anxiety of the unknown.

Thank you all for the advice!!

I never really thought about the HUD and I had NO IDEA you could turn off particle effects. That will make things so much easier.

And I appreciate the confidence boost :) I will definitely put these into effect and report back!

I can do it!!

Awe, I missed all the good advice... ummm... something something heal...lol?

In all seriousness though, what everyone else said is right. But, to make things feel a little less stressful try keeping this in mind. 24-mans, while they are challenging in their own way, they are best used as practice. Queuing as a job you want to get better at is great in 24-mans, since your party only amounts to 1/3 of the overall effort I'm. You can learn to fine tune rotations, adjust bluffs and debuffs, and pay attention more to what the other roles are doing. These are things that will help when you get to the extremes and savages, where only your party is the sole damage dealers.

It really is a sideshow attraction in those 24 mans particularly as a healer. Just have rez ready I guess. And relax. Whole point of game is to enjoy yourself, if you mess up people understand. if you find that content difficult maybe party with a group or select another role.

PS4 poses some unique challenges and I think the best advice I was ever given was how to scroll through the entire Alliance. Press L1 and left or right on the D pad to scroll through every single Alliance member in order. Its invaluable for targeting dead healers in other parties when you can't even see them on your screen. Also try setting up a "tt" macro. Basically you are able to target your Target's Target quickly so if you target the main boss you can cast a heal on the Tank they are attacking. This will allow you to easily help the main tank. I have had a few runs where I was doing the bulk of the healing for a tank outside my party and its much better than letting the boss run wild.

Ps4 player here. I know you said getting a pc is out of the question but have you considered a mouse/keyboard setup? the ps4 accepts most usb keyboards/mice and it has helped me alot when i choose to main heals.

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Originally Posted by OceanWilds

Thank you all for the advice!!

I never really thought about the HUD and I had NO IDEA you could turn off particle effects. That will make things so much easier.

And I appreciate the confidence boost :) I will definitely put these into effect and report back!

I can do it!!

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Of course you can! And you can have a ton of fun while doing it too. There is nothing more valuable than hard earned experience, and the more of it you have, the better healer you will be. So that is the best advice I can give amongst all the great advice you have already received. Get out there and heal! Run everything from Sastasha to current. Go, go, go!

I have major anxiety issues, yet I play the two most anxious roles in this game. I look at it like getting into pool. The major difficulty is getting in, not being in it. CANNONBALL!!

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Originally Posted by OceanWilds

Haha... the title says it all. But I need help. I love running dungeons.

Light parties? Great! I can do this.

Standard parties? Ok... 8 people... I can do this....

24 player parties? WHAT IS GOING ON. I CAN'T SEE. HAVE I GONE BLIND? WHO AM I HEALING?!

Yeah... It gets nerve wrecking when most of my screen is taken up with health bars and there are so many mobs and players on my screen. It kind of takes the fun out of running dungeons. But I know that it should not.

So, I need help? How does a Healer (WHM) on a PS4 keep up with it all? How do I stay the amazing healer that I know I can be, without going crazy over what to do?

This is a call to all the Healers out there? How do you cope with it? Do you have any tricks of the trade? Any advice for a PS4 user (AND NO. Saying get a PC is not an option. Yes yes.. master race and all that but... no)? I think this is a good place to post this (IE the Healer Roles forum) but still...

HELP?!

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The idea that playing on a ps4 is somehow like a handicap for healing is fundamentally false. I main healed 4 raid tiers on ps4 and did it perfectly fine. Truth be told you just need to be comfortable in the class and in the fight. Learn to predict when high levels of damage are coming out, make sure to top people off before it happens and pre cast a heal as it goes out

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So, I need help? How does a Healer (WHM) on a PS4 keep up with it all? How do I stay the amazing healer that I know I can be, without going crazy over what to do?

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The best advise i can give is that you just ignore 2/3 of the 24 players. It's not much different from an 8 player party. Heal your team, the other teams have their own healers.

But there are 2 exceptions: When the healers of one team are both dead you have to raise them. They will shout for help, so you don't have to watch them all the time.

And it's not bad to heal the main tank, even when he is not in your own team.

A great help for that is to remap the R3 (or L3) button to "targets target". Whenever you push that stick down, you switch to the target of your target then. So when you have the boss in target, you will switch to the main tank.

(you can do that in the System Configuration -> Controller -> the Config button top right)

1. set up your target filters. i generally have L1+square as objects only. L1+x as enemies only. l1+ trianlge everything. and l1+circle players only. these can make targetting what you need to target that much faster. you need to activate an object buts its swarmed with people and adds l1+square and bam easy to target..

2:- If possible set up a couple of macros. my R3 button is set to "/target <f>" which means pressing it will always target the main boss. (usually the thing i have focus set on.)
i also have a second macro which is "/as <t>" what that does is it will target whatever is being targetted by your current target.
these 2 together basically allow you to target whoever has hate in 2 quick button presses. making it much faster to toss a heal on them. and pressing that macro again after healing them will switch to whatever they have targetted. (ie the boss)

3:- This seems to be quite a secret as it amazes me how many people don't know about it but In 24 man raids if you hold down L1 and press left or right on the dpad you will directly cycle through the alliance lists instead of cycling through enemies or whatever your usual filter is. So if you see both the healers are down in alliance B holding L1 and tapping left or right a couple of times will quickly get them targetted for you to raise and gett hem back up. the alliance list is sorted by job icons so it's so much easier to cycle through to a dead healer using that than cycling all the dead bodies on the floor trying to find the right one.

4:- people have mentioned turning off display names and such but an alternative option to that is simply change the color for alliance members. people in my party are geenreally dark blue and people in other alliances are almost skyblue. this generally makes it easier to see where your party are. which should allow you to make better judgements about where you want to be when you cast an aoe heal to hit the most people..

generally healing 24 man isnt much different to 8 man as you'll mainly focus on your own party within the alliance while maybe helping keep the main tank alive with the odd regen or raises on the dead..

I think if you use a few of these you'll have much less stress as to me i find the biggest anxiety was generally not being able to target what i needed to when i needed. and now i can target anything i need with minimal fuss.

Always great advice from people in the healer section :D So won't rehash what they said (well maybe a little lol), but one thing I would suggest is running content unsynced solo, this really helped with my anxiety. In the way that I learnt to recognize patterns from certain attacks, visual/auditory cues (like someone suggested to me when I was struggling on Titan as a baby WHM, listen to the music changes). It also helps with muscle memory, and finding the best fit for your UI and what you're most comfortable with in the placement of skills/potions/macros etc, all without the added pressure of being in an 8 man (for me I really struggle with primals >.< my reflexes suck, which makes the anxiety worse D: Had waaay more fun doing primals unsynced, starting on the EX primals now :D)... I'm positive that you will find a comfortable fit and do well as a healer, if you love the job don't let anything or anyone put you off, you definitely can beat this! :)

If I can give some 24-man specific advice, and sorry if I echo any:

Focus on your alliance at first, and always make your own alliance priority: As you get more experience in 24-man and the action slows down a bit, it becomes easier to support the other alliances with heals, regens, shields and raises. Your own AoE support abilities won't get the other alliances, but single target abilities can help support the other alliances.

Both you and your co healer are KO'd: You can still make yourself useful. Place a marker on yourself and use alliance chat to inform that both healers in your alliance are down. This makes it tons easier for another healer to find you amongst the chaos, and raise you.

Set your combat filters to only show effects from your own party: It can be difficult to get out of telegraphs you can't see. ;)

Know who is tanking: Ignore any concrete rule you might hear about alliance B always main tanks, or some crap like that. Whoever has the most agro will have a red border around their health bar if this player is in another alliance. No red border around anyone usually means your tank has agro

Be prepared to use healer LB3: Make sure you hotbar it because I guarantee that the window will open for you to use it if you keep running alliance raids. 24-man is a circus and things can go south real fast. Especially Dun Scaith and onwards. They are not as difficult as savage raids or EX trials, but they do well to get you prepared for that content if you ever decide to run them.

Have fun! This is probably the most important. There will be a wide range of skill levels. Aim to do your best and try to be forgiving of derps. It's a 24-man PUG after all.

While I don't play on PS4, I understand the frustration. Even when I have an easier time because of the ability to click, it's best to keep in perspective in a 24 man raid. As a healer, you are responsible for your party, if you help in other parties, that's a bonus, don't expect to heal, your AOES heal your party and not others parties, work with your mechanics and if the MT is taking too much damage, throw a regen or a shield, help out, but remember, just like other healing orders, your party is your responsibility. And above all, have fun, don't stress so hard, people can, will and do make mistakes. It's been said here already but it bears repeating. Forgive yourself, forgive others, we're here to have fun and enjoy ourselves, not stress out. The more you do content, the better you will get at it.

Honestly just treat 24s as 8 mans. The other healrrs will takr care of their alliance. Just rez them if both a groups healers are down and go back to treating your own
Especially if youre on ps4 or use a controller. Where targeting other group members is cumbersome

Heh I felt that way too when I started trying out healer at 2.0.Best way to get rid of the anxiety is keep to keep playing.It gets easier and you get more confident when you get used to it.I have gone from anxiety to confident.I have solo healed many things and saved my alliance from doom plenty of times.I can proudly say with time and experience you will become a pro healer.Oh and make sure you at least watch a guide if you're new.It helps.

its been a while since i play healer but personally i just treat 24 as 8 person group party.

your aoe heal only affect your group, so let say you are in group 1 and most people in group 2 is at half hp, you cant aoe heal them because it has no effect, you can however single target heal them one by one.

which i think you shouldn't do unless someone ask you to do so, or your group is fine and that person happen to be next to you or something like that. usually in 24 person, each group move with their own group, so just stick with them. and usually before boss fight, some party will mark each "starting" location for each group so you don't get lost.

usually i turn off all nameplates except my group, so when chaos ensue (as in everyone running around like office crunch time) i still can pinpoint each person because my group is the only one with the nameplates on.

raid duty finder is easy because most people already know what to do so all you have to do is just follow the damn "train" and heal as usual.

also, if all else fail, just spam aoe heal like madman :p make yourself busy

Really the only time you should be healing someone from outside your 8 man alliance is if both healers are down in the other alliance. Then you can give one or both of them a quick raise so they can bring back up their party. Keep your focus on our own group and let the other healers worry about their groups.