A Way to Shorten MSQ

Implement destination auto-teleport.(Cut out a large portion of travel time)

During an MSQ which doesn't heavily rely on you physically traveling to the next destination, and if you are not REALLY NEAR the said area, the WoL should be auto-teleported to the next destination(ex. Next NPC you will talk to/area you will collect items/area you can hunt MSQ monsters).

Exceptions should be traveling to new areas or when sneaking into enemy base(which is supposed to give a sense of challenge)

This should be implemented up to before the latest expansion.

If cutting msq quests directly is out of the question, I suggest you think about this as an option.

If you are suggesting this for all 2.0 MSQ content onward, this would require pruning of every single little quest to date and would be immensely time consuming and resource heavy... and to what end? If you purchased the game only to skip the vast majority of its content then the MSQ skip potion already exists to serve this purpose.

If you are suggesting this for 5.0 content onwards, then I really don’t understand your suggestion. Why would you want to make once-off content even shorter? Granted, travelling through maps is hardly the most engaging of experiences after you’ve seen your share of the sights and the like, but I don’t really see how fade to black teleporting where I am just thrown immediately from “pick up this, kill that, talk to them” will do anything other than perhaps make the experience even more monotonous.

Just my perspective though!

He's not suggesting pruning anything, tho?

This is something I've advocated for in the past as well. There are far too many instances of "talk to NPC" followed by "talk to same NPC at different location." If the NPC you are currently conversing with is present at the next quest objective, there's not really any reason to not simply move the player there to continue the dialogue.

I really disliked all the times when NPC is all "Meet me here to discuss this further." C'mon, if we're both going to the same destination, we can both get there together.

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Originally Posted by Knahli

If you are suggesting this for all 2.0 MSQ content onward, this would require pruning of every single little quest to date and would be immensely time consuming and resource heavy... and to what end? If you purchased the game only to skip the vast majority of its content then the MSQ skip potion already exists to serve this purpose.

If you are suggesting this for 5.0 content onwards, then I really don’t understand your suggestion. Why would you want to make once-off content even shorter? Granted, travelling through maps is hardly the most engaging of experiences after you’ve seen your share of the sights and the like, but I don’t really see how fade to black teleporting where I am just thrown immediately from “pick up this, kill that, talk to them” will do anything other than perhaps make the experience even more monotonous.

Just my perspective though!

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It isn't as time consuming as what other people are suggesting which is to actually cut the non-important parts of the story and make a "shorter version" of the msq. I actually don't want this because the effort put into small dialogues would be put to waste.
It's certainly worth it considering more than half of the playerbase get sick of the "Report to Waking Sands/Rising Stones" thing. It doesn't cut out any experience other than riding your mount or unneeded sprinting because you can't ride your mount in city-states.
What about sightseeing? There's gathering and sidequests and a bunch of other doables for that which doesn't slow progression to endgame.

Or maybe we could make use of those fancy linkshell things they showed off in the ARR MSQ. Instead of doing a 5 minute run just to pass messages between two NPCs, why not just contact them via linkshell?

Pruning those quests would be nice. There's far too many quests, and frankly a lot of them serve no other purpose other than complete, unnecessary inflammation. But I guess whilst they have the MSQ skip potions this is very improbable.

Sounds more like suggesting an auto-travel sort of thing present in some single player RPGs than pruning quests.

They could prune half of the storyline and still have too much. Just give a free 60 and free storyline skip with the next expansion.

yall do realise linkpearls are easily hacked right, i know its exceptionally annoying to have to go to minfillia to be told good job, but inworld info isnt generally given over linkpearl cause of the threat of garleans, monetarists, spies, whatnot being on the same freuency

this will not happen, simply put Jump potions. We can only hope that SE will put some effort into branching paths in the future expansions but i'm not going to hold my breath. SE seems to want to be F2P with a bigass store AND sub based. You're getting greedy SE, bring it back to the GAME!

Prior to somewhere in 2.4, there are farrr too many tedious fetch quests, with the Titan arc being the worst offender. I've lost count of how many times I've had friends in my FC say that they had other friends quit during the pre-2.0 MSQ because of all the fetch quests. I myself was warned repeatedly in advance, and told it gets much better towards the end of ARR, so I slogged through, but goddamn if I didn't resent the hell out of being forced to fetch food ingredients for 6 hours (I honestly have no idea how long it was) while Limsa Lominsa was in mortal peril.


Quite a few quests during this span could benefit from pruning, having auto-teleports attached, being made into optional sidequests, restructured, otherwise shortened, or outright eliminated. If they made that stretch even 20% shorter it could have a very positive affect on the storytellng and newbie player retention, particularly from levels 30-35.


So while I wouldn't use it too often, a few auto-teleports could help the MSQ's presentation. Mainly for ARR though, not for anything past that really.

There's a lot of fetch-type quests in the msq they could cull - no need to dump them completely, they can still use them as side quests.

Yeah, I'd take a combined approach of combining and shortening some of these quests via cutscenes, and also making some into sidequests. The cutscene at the end of 2.1 where someone else fetched all the crystals for the Limsa barge to fight Leviathan, along with some of the Scions explaining the mechanics of it all with graphical aids, that was a good example of condensing a story for the better.


I do think Brayflox should be still be mandatory, since it's one of the better leveling dungeons and the only one for quite some time before or after, but the ostensible storyline reason for you going in there is beyond dumb, so that's one thing I might outright change. Just make it obvious that the dungeon is actually a test, as in a test to see if you'd survive fighting Titan, not a dangerous place to go fetch exotic cheese for some banquet in order to secure someone rich person's help for reasons that I cannot freaking remember because they were so dumb and/or unexplained.


Like just have a side character tell you "look, if you can't make it through this zone and take out the dragon at the end of it, there's no way you're way you're beating Titan. The cheese is just to show you did it."

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Originally Posted by DelSolstice

I do think Brayflox should be still be mandatory, since it's one of the better leveling dungeons and the only one for quite some time before or after, but the ostensible storyline reason for you going in there is beyond dumb, so that's one thing I might outright change. Just make it obvious that the dungeon is actually a test, as in a test to see if you'd survive fighting Titan, not a dangerous place to go fetch exotic cheese for some banquet in order to secure someone rich person's help for reasons that I cannot freaking remember because they were so dumb and/or unexplained.


Like just have a side character tell you "look, if you can't make it through this zone and take out the dragon at the end of it, there's no way you're way you're beating Titan. The cheese is just to show you did it."

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All the silly fetch quests leading up to Titan are a test to see if you are good enough. You just don't get told that it is until afterwards. And the banquet? It is to honor you.

Yet i miss all those quests on SB... its so plain without them >_>

Aren't there auto-teleports to npc for certain dungeon/raid quests?

MSQs could do with auto-teleports after completion of the respective dungeons.