Lately I've noticed that most Achievement, Quest, and Seasonal Event Rewards have been dyeable on release, which is very nice and how I would prefer it to be. However, there are many older items that I sometimes think about using for glamour, and then ultimately don't because they aren't dyeable. Personally, I've assigned a specific color palette to each of my characters, so the issue I have most often is that the default color of the item simply doesn't work with my palette choice.
The items that I would like to be dyeable is a much shorter list... but I've seen similar topics crop up from time to time regarding other pieces of gear too, so I thought I'd try to put together a comprehensive list of all the glamour items currently in game that I think should be dyeable.
Quest Rewards
- Sable Death Mask
- Inspector's Eyeglasses
- Postmoogle Cap
- Scion Rogue's Bandana
- Manderville Coatee
- Manderville Bottoms
- Star-spangled Subligar
- Custom-made Shirt
- Custom-made Tunic
- Custom-made Robe of Healing
- Custom-made Cuirass
- Custom-made Scale Mail
- Custom-made Robe of Casting
- Mended Imperial Pot Helm
- Mended Imperial Short Robe
- Kabuto #55
- Uwagi #55
- Tekko #55
- Hakama #55
- Choka #55
Seasonal/Special Event Rewards
- Lord’s Yukata (Blue)
- Lady’s Yukata (Red)
- Lord’s Yukata (Green)
- Lady’s Yukata (Blue)
- Lord’s Yukata (Grey)
- Lady’s Yukata (Black)
- Lord’s Yukata (Blackflame)
- Lady’s Yukata (Redfly)
- Lord’s Yukata (Whiteflame)
- Lady’s Yukata (Bluefly)
- Lord’s Yukata (Blueflame)
- Lady’s Yukata (Pinkfly)
- Lord’s Drawers (Black)
- Lady’s Knickers (Black)
- Lord’s Drawers (White)
- Lady’s Knickers (White)
- Lord’s Drawers (Gold)
- Lady’s Knickers (Gold)
- Little Lord's Clogs
- Little Lady's Clogs
- Lord's Clogs
- Lady's Clogs
- Red Summer Top
- Red Summer Halter
- Blue Summer Top
- Blue Summer Halter
- Green Summer Top
- Green Summer Halter
- Red Summer Trunks
- Red Sumer Tanga
- Green Summer Trunks
- Green Summer Tanga
- Blue Summer Trunks
- Blue Summer Tanga
- Solar Summer Top
- Solar Summer Halter
- Lunar Summer Top
- Lunar Summer Halter
- Solar Summer Trunks
- Solar Summer Tanga
- Lunar Summer Trunks
- Lunar Summer Tanga
- Summer Evening Top
- Striped Summer Top
- Summer Morning Halter
- Striped Summer Halter
- Summer Evening Trunks
- Striped Summer Trunks
- Summer Morning Tanga
- Striped Summer Tanga
- King Slime Crown
- Amatsu Hachigane
- Amatsu Togi
- Amatsu Tekko
- Amatsu Haidate
- Amatsu Sune-ate
- Pumpkin Head
- White Pumpkin Head
- Unripened Pumpkin Head
- Ripened Pumpkin Head
- Eerie Hat
- Eerie Robe
- Eerie Tights
- Eerie Crakows
- Snowman Head
- Snowman Suit
- Snowman Mitts
- Usagi Kabuto
- Black Usagi Kabuto
- Silver Usagi Kabuto
- Tetsuji Usagi Kabuto
- Black Tetsuji Usagi Kabuto
- Silver Tetsuji Usage Kabuto
- Silver Snake Kabuto
- Dragon Kabuto
- Crimson Dragon Kabuto
- Golden Dragon Kabuto
- Black Dragon Kabuto
- Uma Kabuto
- Crimson Uma Kabuto
- Golden Uma Kabuto
- Black Uma Kabuto
- Hitsuji Kabuto
- Black Hitsuji Kabuto
- Crimson Hitsuji Kabuto
- White Hitsuji Kabuto
Achievement Rewards
- Butcher’s Crown
- Chronicler’s Crown
- Gambler’s Crown
- Warlord’s Crown
- Partisan’s Crown
- Paragon’s Crown
- Paragon’s Gown
- Racing Chocobo Mask
- Chocobo Suit
- Field Commander’s Helm
- Field Commander’s Coat
- Field Commander’s Gloves
- Field Commander’s Slops
- Field Commander’s Boots
Veteran Rewards / Exclusive Extras
- Black Summer Top
- Black Summer Halter
- Black Summer Trunks
- Black Summer Tanga
- Fat Chocobo Head
- Goblin Cap
- Scarf of Wondrous Wit
- Wild Rose Bandana
- Wild Rose Cuirass
- Wild Rose Armguards
- Wild Rose Breeches
- Wild Rose Boots
- Baron Helm
- Baron Circlet
- Friendship Circlet
- Inferno Mask
- Crag Mask
Beast Tribe Rewards
- Vanu Vanu Head
- Vanu Vanu Body
- Vanu Vanu Arms
- Vanu Vanu Waist
- Vanu Vanu Legs
- Zundu Head
- Zundu Body
- Zundu Arms
- Zundu Waist
- Zundu Legs
- Gnath Head
- Gnath Thorax
- Gnath Arms
- Gnath Abdomen
- Gnath Legs
- Vath Thorax
- Meandering Mog Slippers
- Kabuto of the Blue
- Oyoroi of the Blue
- Kote of the Blue
- Tsutsu-hakama of the Blue
- Sune-ate of the Blue
Other Items
- Onion Doublet
- Onion Gaskins
- Onion Patterns
- Weathered Sheperd’s Tunic
- Weathered Sheperd’s Slops
- Imperial Shadow Visor
- Sharlayan Goggles
- Cockscomb
- Succubus Horns
- Oschon Roselle Capeline
- Gold Roselle Capeline
- Ti Leaf Lei
- Coronal Summer Halter
- Red Summer Maro
- Red Summer Pareo
- South Seas Talisman
- Sea Breeze Summer Halter
- Blue Summer Maro
- Sea Breeze Summer Pareo
- Summer Sandals
- Hjalmr
- Herklaedi
- Heavy Behemoth Helm
- Behemoth Helm
- Behemoth Mask
- Ultima Horns
- Proto Ultima Mesh
- Spotted Fedora
- Spotted Spencer
Mogstation Items
- Antecedent’s Attire
- Scion Conjurer’s Dalmatica
- Scion Conjurer’s Chausses
- Scion Conjurer’s Patterns
- Scion Thief’s Tunic
- Scion Thief’s Halfgloves
- Scion Thief’s Gaskins
- Scion Thief’s Armored Calligae
- Scion Striker’s Visor
- Scion Striker’s Attire
- Scion Thaumaturge’s Monocle
- Scion Thaumaturge’s Robe
- Scion Thaumaturge’s Gauntlets
- Scion Thaumaturge’s Gaskins
- Scion Thaumaturge’s Moccasins
- Scion Chronocler’s Cowl
- Scion Chronocler’s Ringbands
- Scion Chronocler’s Tights
- Scion Chronocler’s Calligae
- Head Engineer’s Goggles
- Head Engineer’s Attire
- Ironwork Engineer’s Goggles
- Ironwork Engineer’s Doublet
- Ironwork Engineer’s Gloves
- Ironwork Engineer’s Slops
- Ironwork Engineer’s Boots
- Scion Rogue’s Jacket
- Scion Rogue’s Armguards
- Scion Rogue’s Gaskins
- Scion Rogue’s Boots
- Scion Healer’s Robe
- Scion Healer’s Halftights
- Scion Healer’s Highboots
- Lord Commander’s Coat
- Lord Commander’s Gloves
- Ward Knight’s Armor
- Ward Knight’s Gauntlets
- Ward Knight’s Trousers
- Ward Knight’s Sabatons
- Ward Mage’s Robe
- Ward Mage’s Dress Gloves
- Ward Mage’s Trousers
- Ward Mage’s Sabatons
- Blackbosom Hat
- Blackbosom Dress
- Blackbosom Dress Gloves
- Blackbosom Boots
- Scion Liberator’s Jacket
- Scion Liberator’s Fingerless Gloves
- Scion Liberator’s Pantalettes
- Scion Liberator’s Sabatons
- Cracked Manderville Monocle
- Torn Manderville Coatee
- Singed Manderville Gloves
- Stained Manderville Bottoms
- Scuffed Manderville Gaiters
- Yellow-pommed Moogle Cap
- Moogle Head
- Moogle Body
- Moogle Arms
- Moogle Buns
- Moogle Legs
A final thought in regards to items that are sold for real life currency on Mogstation, including previous Seasonal / Special Event Rewards... I especially think these items should be made dyeable. In addition to increasing their functionality for players who want to use these items for their glamours, I also think that simply making them dyeable would also increase their perceived value to players who have not purchased them yet. A potential win-win scenario, as players who have already purchased the items will be happy with the new functionality, and players who have not purchased the items will now have additional reason to do so.
Lastly... I reviewed items stored in my Armoire, items purchasable from the Calamity Salvager, items listed on the MB, and items listed on the Eorzean Database on Lodestone to build this list. I specifically did not list any dungeon gear, as dungeon gear appearance is often re-used for crafted gear sets (that are dyeable) later on. I would definitely prefer dungeon gear to be dyeable too... as there are already some outlier sets that are (Level 50 Darklight gear and Level 61 Ghost Barque gear for example), but I'd figure I'd start with the glamour gear first.
[REQUEST] Please make these items dyeable.
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07-20-2018, 03:58 AMRowde[REQUEST] Please make these items dyeable.
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07-20-2018, 04:30 AMMaethusXionMost of these literally have colors in the name, so they likely won't be changed to dye-able.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rowde
Then there's the Tribe Gear, which is supposed to represent the Beast Tribes specifically, so will likely also not be changed.
I did cut out everything I agree with should be dye-able, though. -
07-20-2018, 04:39 AMKaoru_Nagisa
The fact we still get undyeable stuff at all bothers me, on top of some stuff beginning to have far stricter class locks on them than previous expansions. I would really like for a good majority of undyeable gear to be updated so we may dye them - especially the old ARR hunt gear, off the top of my head. I have wished for this for many years now.
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07-20-2018, 05:38 AMSkivvyI totally agree with this. We currently have a half-implemented dye system at this point where some gear we can dye, and a good majority we can't. Then you have the problem of SE implementing two versions of items - one dyeable, one not (e.g. High House Bustle / Rainbow Bustle, Falconer's Shirt / Ramie Shirt, Expeditioner's Coat / Dhalmelskin Coat and more!). And then my absolute favorite - the flower corsages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa
https://i.imgur.com/CtOpycI.png
This is just obscene and unnecessary. @.@ Had they made these dyeable, we would have had ~8 different item models vs. 50+ items. -
07-20-2018, 06:07 AMVstarstruckNeed some kind of way to get people to buy more retainers, a lot of people knew for a long time they intentionally bloat inventory to make more retainer sales. Why you think the app locks out more space in the chobobo bag and access option to buy another retainer? They artificially create a need for "premium" services.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skivvy
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07-20-2018, 06:31 AMhynaku
Be nice if they made all gear able to be dyed.
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07-20-2018, 06:36 AMRokkeThis is especially disappointing when we went from the 1st SB dungeon having dyeable gear back to non dyeable for every every non-contest winning dungeon gear =_=Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa
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07-20-2018, 08:11 AMKurando
I would really expect the MogStation items out of everything else to be fully dyable considering the only way to obtain them is with real cash anyway. Ok yes the gear is trademark to the respective characters in the game so having a single colour would initially make sense, but making them dyable isn't going to break the game. A lot of us would like to dye Thancred or Lyse's coats to feel a little more unique with our glamour, kinda silly it's not been introduced by now. Next outfits Alphinaud/Alisaie coming soon, $20+ and no way dyable....
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07-20-2018, 08:39 AMDeceptusI really think this is the big issue. The game has so much item bloat to try to steer people towards retainers it's ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vstarstruck
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07-20-2018, 10:36 AMBonboriThis is my personal bugbear. All I want is to dye it bone-white to match my Raen's horns. It's a nice head piece but ughhh, with its default colour it doesn't go with anything ._.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rowde
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07-20-2018, 04:16 PMLambdafishBut if all gear was dyeable then they would have to actually invest time into making savage gear again (you know, that stuff that we spend months working towards)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa
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07-20-2018, 04:27 PMAncientCrystal
I want my white bra from mogstation dyable NOW
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07-20-2018, 04:51 PMFawkesYes this pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by hynaku
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07-20-2018, 08:08 PMLeloa
They should just make dyeable swimwear and yukatas. Quest rewards aren't that big of a deal.
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07-20-2018, 08:23 PMAmeelaDidn't they do this for Creator and the NM sets ended up looking like garbage?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lambdafish
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07-20-2018, 08:50 PMYenyen
While at it, make Au ru hempen camise and pantalettes not specific to au ru
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07-21-2018, 12:55 AMJunseiKei
Some of these listed items were recently answered in a LLP with a "if we made these items dye-able, it'd no longer be [this NPC]'s attire, so no."
(The request was using Aymeric's coat as an example.)
It's like data doesn't require space and space doesn't require more funds! It does suck, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vstarstruck
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07-21-2018, 12:59 AMLambdafishI'd rather garbage looking NM gear than zero savage gear. Regardless, basing an entire gear philosophy on one set of bad gear shouldn't be a precedentQuote:
Originally Posted by Ameela
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07-21-2018, 01:01 AMSkivvyBut they let us dye Aymeric's hairstyle, so we're no longer emulating him just as he is. Honestly, that reply sounds like a cop-out to me :XQuote:
Originally Posted by JunseiKei
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07-21-2018, 01:05 AMJunseiKeiLike all hair functions because you're getting a haircut? I didn't think I dyed the piece and then put it on my character, eating a glamour prism. Isn't his hair an item you throw and can then access via the aesthetician? I didn't buy it since, you know, female character and I didn't want to pay that price for just a hairstyle that I'd probably end up never using. Was like that for Minfilia, Thancred and Y'shtola. Would mean simply placing a hair model on a character's head versus creating a new coat model for every dye available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skivvy
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07-21-2018, 01:19 AMDuskane
Dyable Plague doctor/bringer coat, GC lieutenant coats,Aymeric coat (or just all character gear i mean people pay for these i feel they should be dyable),Sycrus tower and Labrinth of the ancients gear,Sohm al gear also two pieces of armor id like to be level 1 glamor for all classes Adamantite coat of Fending(they made this usable by MNKS/SAM but it be nice on casters) and the Tunics from the aery
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07-21-2018, 01:23 AMZsolen
I would prefer most items, including dungeon gear, to be dyeable. The only gear I would not like to see dyeable is faction specific combat gear, including Imperial gear.
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07-21-2018, 01:25 AMKazrah
Dyeable Bardam's Mettle gear
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07-21-2018, 01:27 AMDuskanei would love the onishi dogi as a all class glam item the game severely lacks healer like Monk gearQuote:
Originally Posted by Kazrah
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07-21-2018, 02:11 AMSkivvyI'm just saying, if they're going to use the excuse of "can't dye character outfits because they would no longer be the character's attire", then it seems silly that we are allowed to dye their hair as wouldn't the same logic apply? Aymeric's hair dyed blonde is still Aymeric's hairstyle. Just like Lyse's jacket dyed pink would still be her jacket.Quote:
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07-21-2018, 02:38 AMFawkesThat sounds like an answer that completely doesn't understand glamour. People don't buy those outfits just to cosplay as the NPCs in the game. You buy it because Y'shtola's boots look better than most boots. I'm never wearing the whole outfit as a set in the first place (unless you have to with the full-body outfits like Minfilia and Yda 1.0, but that's a different complaint).Quote:
Originally Posted by JunseiKei
Also things like Squall's and Yuna's outfits are dyeable which makes it kind of double nonsensical. Why is one character costume okay to be dyed but the other not? -
07-21-2018, 02:49 AMJunseiKeiThe hair is not a glamour-able item, so there's nothing that was specially made dye-able. It's not a costume piece. That's why I'm bringing up the difference of how hair and dye-able armor are made. "Dye-able hair" in FFXIV is called headgear and is applied on your head slot. It is not "hair," unlike the Lord Commander chest, feet and arm pieces that fit into a slot. While also bringing up the additional work that would be required to make them dye-able, since you said it sounds like a cop-out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skivvy
I get what you're saying, that simply the reason that making it dye-able doesn't change the fact that the model is still very much Aymeric's attire. However, what was sold was the Lord Commander's attire, not some random gear and his gear does have an iconic look to it, much as Lyse's red outfit right now, as does Hien's yellow one. It's not avoiding a commitment (because that's what cop-out means). They are selling the NPC's specific gear because people asked for Aymeric's coat.
I want to say it was during answering that question, or some other live letter, they showed Aymeric. His head is separate from the body. His body is literally the coat, arms, legs, etc. For us to even get the coat, they had to re-create it to fit with our armor system, then make sure it'll fit across all of the classes (because serious talk here, if you just took a model like this and slapped it on any race, you're going to see weird and sometimes nightmarish things come out if you did that). For the work involved, and probably a predetermined price point that they didn't want to go over (or being made sure not to go over as is likely), they probably dropped the additional work that would be required to make them dye-able.
Again, not a cop-out. Just misleading at the worst. Hope that clarifies why I'm bringing up certain aspects.
All of the characters' outfits that originate from FFXIV, and made purchasable, cannot be dyed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fawkes
All of the characters' outfits that originate from other titles, and made obtainable through various means, are dye-able.
I'm not SE, that's the only things I see in common. I'm just relaying what has already been addressed in LLPs. Asking why can none of the FFXIV NPC outfits can't be dyed while ones from other games can be sounds like an excellent question to push forward for the next LLP. Though I have a feeling you'll get a much faster version of, 'We sold their gear. THEIR gear, not a customizable one that would be YOURS.'
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Well, the Wild Rose set cannot be dyed, either. So at least one of the out-of-FFXIV outfits break the rule of outside FFXIV, OK to dye.
Honestly, I'm more upset that Yoshi said they will NOT sell Zenos's gear because he's a villain. There goes all my hopes and dreams for Yotsuyu's hair (and the attire). -
07-24-2018, 06:42 AMRowdeThere are a few things I want to reply to, but I wanted to get together some images beforehand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leloa
I can shoot down this though... although this would be the most direct and preferable method, it would also make the existing swimwear and yukatas currently available for purchase in the Mogstation wholly irrelevant to many ppl. Thus cutting into a potential revenue stream for SE. So I think this is the least likely solution. -
07-24-2018, 06:48 AMFredco191
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07-24-2018, 07:35 AMVidu
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Request-Thread
Since no one linked it yet, but I feel its pretty relevant to the topic: we got an official "Request Gear to be Dyeable"-Thread over in the items-section of the forum. Might be worth posting there (again) if you have any requests, assuming they're actually (still) looking it up (the german version of the thread implied a few weeks ago that the feedback was brught to the devs-attention, the english thread never got such a notice... so maybe they're only listening to german to begin with!) -
07-24-2018, 09:00 AMVstarstruckIf it costs so much, they wouldn't releasing so many unnecessary items would they?Quote:
Originally Posted by JunseiKei
thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by Vidu
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07-24-2018, 11:32 AMIscahI wrote in the other topic that was originally discussing this interview - I don't think he meant 'enemy' as in villain but that he's an 'enemy model' (like a monster) as opposed to an NPC model (a customisable preset body equipped with specific gear and hairstyle). So if he's modeled "all in one piece" then his gear doesn't exist as a separate object that can be equipped to other characters.Quote:
Originally Posted by JunseiKei
It's not purely about "not letting players dress as villains" because you can buy the Heavens' Ward armour, and they actually gave us that rather nice Garlean uniform as a quest reward.
Yotsuyu is an NPC model, so there's more chance of getting her costume, although it may be a matter of whether it works with a full range of player-character movement or only with her customised animations.