[Request] New section: Game Suggestions

I would like to suggest to consider adding a new sub topic "Suggestion Box" for every relevant game feature and requests for the game.

I read the forum since a long time ago and the "General Discussion" section is becoming day by day a place where players see the opportunity to improve the game through suggestions and requests

But isn't the actual topics enough?
I don't think so. While some topics get low post rate, and suggestions can be made without being lost, some more populated topics make many good suggestions get lost amidst so many random posts or feedback posts, and it would be a great choice to consider a proper place for the suggestions. A place where we feel that we are being heard by the Staff.

I would like to expand the way the forum organize the suggestions section, because organization is a very important thing for the devs to listen to the community.

I would like it to be similar to the Bugs reporting section, with the following sections as an example:

For every Topic

• Suggestion Box: Single sub-section (not a sticky thread) for every topic (Job/HUD/Lore/etc) Where the suggestions and requests are posted and opened to more feedback from the community. A CM or proper staff will move the thread to one of the below sections accordingly if needed.

And a Official Section. It's needed, because I don't want to see the suggestion Box full of suggestions for years, it needs to be cleaned with Accepted, or not.

Game Suggestions:

• Implemented: Suggestions that officialy made it and will be implemented in the future.
• Insufficient Information: When there's not a complete suggestion.
• Unable to Accept: Where a CM or proper staff value the suggestion as Impossible to implement under any cirscustance.
• Already in-game: When someone suggest something already in the game.
• Duplicate Suggestion: When someone already suggested it. The staff will answer it with a link to the duplicate suggestion before moving it to the section.
• Not a Suggestion: Spam/dicusion/feedback/etc

I'd like to take this further and also add an ingame survey at the end of a patch to gather feedback. That way they really can get the correct feedback rather than stabbing at random bits of community to get it.

People don't know how to use a search funtion as is and we contently see 3+ topics on the same thing started within mins of each other. Look at the JP forums. They have many threads over 1000 long... we get spilt because Person X things there idea on the same thing is different enough it should get it's own thread.

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Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow

People don't know how to use a search funtion as is and we contently see 3+ topics on the same thing started within mins of each other. Look at the JP forums. They have many threads over 1000 long... we get spilt because Person X things there idea on the same thing is different enough it should get it's own thread.

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Ahh Balmung, always full of Rainbows and sunshine....

Anyway, yes a Game Suggestions section would be nice.

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Originally Posted by Tiaque

Ahh Balmung, always full of Rainbows and sunshine....

Anyway, yes a Game Suggestions section would be nice.

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Wats there server have to do with it? They're right, the devs look at long threads with lots of likes over multiple of the same.

There's already lots of sections where suggestions can go, depending on what the suggestion is. UI suggestions go in the User Interface forum. (In fact, they comprise the vast majority of what's in that section.) Suggestions on housing go in the Housing forum. Suggestions and feedback about class balance go in the relevant role's forum. And so on. While there may be a few topics that don't really fit in any of the specific sections, so tend to end up in "General Discussion", it would be more useful to suggest sections for them rather than suggest everything get dumped into a single uncategorized "suggestions" section.

And suggestions cannot be split up by the community team like bug reports can. They involve discussion, feedback, clarifications, and alternatives. Many suggestion threads (including the vast majority of the ones that stir up significant interest) end up with several related suggestions or variations on the original suggestion all being discussed, so there's no one thing a CM could categorize it by. And they're all potentials. Many suggestions aren't addressed at the time, but SE may go back and implement them years later, or may implement another variation that addresses the same issues. Then it's often just different enough that you can't clearly say even whether a given suggestion has been implemented or not, when something kind of similar that addresses some of the same issues, but perhaps not all, has been implemented.

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Originally Posted by Pastahnak

Wats there server have to do with it? They're right, the devs look at long threads with lots of likes over multiple of the same.

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Oh if only you knew.....

Anyway I would welcome Game suggestions section. Something the Community moderators can go thru and report back to their higher ups on anything that stands out. That way they dont have to go thru a hundred different sections, would decrease their workload I think.

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

I'd like to take this further and also add an ingame survey at the end of a patch to gather feedback. That way they really can get the correct feedback rather than stabbing at random bits of community to get it.

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This would be amazing. I'd fully support

Every topic is either a suggestion or a question. We don’t need a suggestion subforum. As it is now, topics go in the subforum that matches the subject matter. If you have a UI suggestion, post in the UI forum. Suggestions for your healer job? Healer forum. Adding another forum for suggestions would just end up unnecessarily splitting topics between their subject matter forum and the suggestion forum.

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Originally Posted by Pastahnak

Wats there server have to do with it?

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What til you hear what they say about Cactuar. Yikes.

Anyway, a subforum for suggestions would be nice, but I suspect they wouldn't go for the suggestions that are planned to be implemented section, because then all people would do is complain about why it's not in the game yet. Generally it's better to keep things a secret until it's certain, so people don't throw a fit.

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Originally Posted by Doozer

What til you hear what they say about Cactuar. Yikes.

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Yup. It's there. It's weird. Moving on.

I wouldn't mind a suggestion subforum so long as players aren't allowed to start threads. Basically means that devs or whoever wants to get ideas can post a thread asking about a particular thing either from some idea pitched in another subforum or just something out of the blue, and then the players can provide feedback on that suggestion in a far more organized manner.

As for the idea for patch end surveys, I think that should be the first thread of that suggestion subforum.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

There's already lots of sections where suggestions can go, depending on what the suggestion is. UI suggestions go in the User Interface forum. (In fact, they comprise the vast majority of what's in that section.) Suggestions on housing go in the Housing forum. Suggestions and feedback about class balance go in the relevant role's forum. And so on. While there may be a few topics that don't really fit in any of the specific sections, so tend to end up in "General Discussion", it would be more useful to suggest sections for them rather than suggest everything get dumped into a single uncategorized "suggestions" section.

And suggestions cannot be split up by the community team like bug reports can. They involve discussion, feedback, clarifications, and alternatives. Many suggestion threads (including the vast majority of the ones that stir up significant interest) end up with several related suggestions or variations on the original suggestion all being discussed, so there's no one thing a CM could categorize it by. And they're all potentials. Many suggestions aren't addressed at the time, but SE may go back and implement them years later, or may implement another variation that addresses the same issues. Then it's often just different enough that you can't clearly say even whether a given suggestion has been implemented or not, when something kind of similar that addresses some of the same issues, but perhaps not all, has been implemented.

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I don't think it's necessary to add a sub forum for EVERY section. The demand is not that great, every suggestion can fit into Accepted Suggestions.

And yes, the suggestion can be judged by a staff member, so that he can move it to "Accepted Suggestion" (as a valid suggestion), so that players may discuss it and up vote. The Suggestion place is the initial step, the proper staff member will judge if it's a valid suggestion, or duplicate, of spam, It must be something serious and official.
And no, not every suggestion is a potential benefit. Eg: "I want Ishgard housing", it was already answered in the live letter, there's no need to keep this suggestion open for feedback or up-vote.

One section is enough at this time.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

Every topic is either a suggestion or a question. We don’t need a suggestion subforum. As it is now, topics go in the subforum that matches the subject matter. If you have a UI suggestion, post in the UI forum. Suggestions for your healer job? Healer forum. Adding another forum for suggestions would just end up unnecessarily splitting topics between their subject matter forum and the suggestion forum.

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Ty, but I will keep my demand for it. People seek for viewers when they post something, no matter how much sections it will have, they will all post in "General Discussion" just because it has the more rate of view. Making a Suggestion topic will condence all the view into one section, without random topics about "Best rotation", "Screenshot your Character, "Duty finder sad times", "I don't know how to tank". The little suggestions that we have, get lost amidst so many random threads. If FFXIV cares for the community, it needs a organized place for it.

Take this topic for example, it will be lost within a day if no one comment it. And SO many suggestions got lost due to it. Aetheryte to Hinterlands, Multiple map flags, Qol changes, Revamp for Aetheryte visual selection, Autodiscart when opening Eureka's Lockbox, and so on, all forgotten, and needed.

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Originally Posted by LeoLupinos

I don't think it's necessary to add a sub forum for EVERY section. The demand is not that great, every suggestion can fit into Accepted Suggestions.

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Which would make for a chaotic mess where you can't look for things you're interested in because it's all jumbled together. While sure, we could wipe out the whole forum structure to limit it all to just "general suggestions" and "general discussion" without any other sections available, it would be a far worse organized forum for it.

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Originally Posted by LeoLupinos

And yes, the suggestion can be judged by a staff member, so that he can move it to "Accepted Suggestion" (as a valid suggestion), so that players may discuss it and up vote. The Suggestion place is the initial step, the proper staff member will judge if it's a valid suggestion, or duplicate, of spam, It must be something serious and official.

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They don't need to distinguish spam as a category. They delete that, and are doing a pretty good job of it already. And if your version of "Accepted Suggestion" has nothing to do with whether the idea is accepted or not, but just is this something we can discuss or not, then that isn't adding anything useful. It's basically just every suggestion, so not even worth moving.

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Originally Posted by LeoLupinos

People seek for viewrs, no matter how much sections it will have, they will all post in "General Discussion" just because it has the more rate of view.

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No, it's not a very good place for suggestions, for the very reason you mentioned, that they tend to just get lost if they're misplaced here rather than their appropriate section. Most threads have a much shorter life here, competing with so many others on such a wide range of topics that it's far too easy to miss them entirely. (Which is the same problem that I think a combined "suggestions" forum would have.) If a suggestion fits into one of the categories that we have a more specific subforum for, it's better off there.

There would also be the issue of where to put combined threads, that contain both advice to other players on how to work with the current system and suggestions to SE for how to improve it. Many question/advice threads turn into suggestion threads only after it's clear that what the player is trying to do is either impossible or awkward in the current system. And many suggestion threads also contain advice on how to work around the current limitations until such improvements might be made.

@Niwashi, Youre right about making a suggestion sub-topic for every relevant feature (HUD/Lore/PVP/Job/etc...).

I think by simply adding "Suggestion Box" to every topic will filter it, leaving just discussions and feedback, while keeping all requests and suggestions there.
I was thinking of something more simple, but more organization is always welcome.

I'm gona edit OP.