The cowl armor take up both head and body slot. As a crafted item, this dramatically reduces its usefulness. Most because crafted items major selling point is materia binds and the cowl takes you lose a valuable head slot for more materia binds. I know to was already discussed having head materia able to bind to cowls, but who would still wear it. Still losing a slot for materia.
So I had an idea to have materia bind to gear what take up more than one slot, only cowl so far, makes the materia bonus a little stronger to compensate the loss of a slot. Not much stronger, like 20% or so stronger. I would like to see cowl have a little more desire on the market.
Cowl (hooded) idea to make them a desired item
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02-08-2012, 05:22 AMKliveCowl (hooded) idea to make them a desired item
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02-08-2012, 05:47 AMHoly_Dragoon
Cowls by themselves are decent items, but losing materia really hurts their usefulness. Usually the stats don't make up for the losses you take.
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02-08-2012, 06:24 AMKliveLoss of a materia or more is a big difference. I use to wear the cowl all the time but now the stats are not worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon
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02-08-2012, 06:26 AMninesunz
Cowls should have higher base stats to compensate head&body ?
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02-08-2012, 06:37 AMHoly_Dragoon
They actually do compensate fairly well. As a mage, Woolen Cowl has great stats. It surpasses near all single pieces of gear, but I can only use 1 materia slot. With a Robe + Hat I can have 2.
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02-08-2012, 06:39 AMDoctorMog
My thoughts,
-Allow all head and body materia's to be melded to cowls (since they count as both)
-Increase the success rate of materia melding (improving the frequency of cowls being 4 and 5 melded, negating the extra materia available for two separate items)
Alternatively,
-Give cowls the ability to remove its hood and wear it just as a body piece. When the hood is down, the stats are reduced to be equal to just a body item. The hood would give the bonus stats of the hood when "up" (and you would not be able to wear a head item when it is up) -
02-08-2012, 06:44 AMZantetsukenHmmm.. that would certainly make that 5-meld achievement easier to get...Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorMog
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02-08-2012, 06:49 AMDoctorMogI edited my post with one alternative that I thought of, sorry Zan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zantetsuken
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02-08-2012, 06:57 AMZantetsuken
Its an interesting conundrum... cowls and materia..
Maybe a good way to deal with it is to give cowls specific materia types with bonuses that other items of clothing can't use.. like +MP regen and +HP regen rate, or reduced interruption on spells.
Cowls for endurance battles, standard robes for fast burn.
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02-08-2012, 07:18 AMKlive
SE should do something at least, right now with materia, there is no reason wear cowls other than looks.
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02-08-2012, 08:34 AMCoglin
Hi, My name Is Coglin Ohmsford, and I approve this message.
Seriously though, I agree, we lose a slot, The stats always fall short of a body/head even without materias. The defence is also alot lower on the on the cowl. I love the look of the hooded attire, and personally would like to see more. Perhaps with more regal gold and silver trims and what not. Even perhaps some forest looks for some for my bard or archer. -
02-09-2012, 12:48 AMsyntaxlies
they should make them so the hoods are purchased separately but when you combine them it looks like one piece. that way you can meld the hood and body separate.
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02-17-2012, 02:06 AMKlive
Another thought I had was, how about cowl restrict what head gear you can equip while wearing a cowl. You can only wear circlets, eye wear, and masks. These easily be worn under a hood and give back the need materia slot.
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02-17-2012, 09:27 AMMychaelQuote:
Originally Posted by DoctorMog
As for your last idea, it would work better if the hood was just a separate piece, so we could meld to it as well. That would be weird though, since you could technically put on a hood without the matching body. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Rukkirii
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02-18-2012, 05:07 AMDragon
I think the best idea is to allow multi-materia attachments and/OR "set-only" materia (like the previously mentioned +MP Regen) attachments for the Cowl, and create a flag to make it so you can't get the 5-meld materia achievement (or w/e it is) through melding a cowl.
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02-18-2012, 05:25 AMKinseykinzLol true... I think some of the NPC Thm's in the THM guild have 'mis-matched' cowl's+headpieces if I remember correctly though...so really, depends on the player choice. I kinda like either the cowl stays as is but allow for certain headwear to be equipped (masks crowns etc) OR make the hood a headpiece and you can buy/meld both.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mychael
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02-18-2012, 07:14 AMJinko
Give cowls double the slot count, success rate could be as follows:-
1st and 2nd materia would be 100%
3rd and 4th would be = to that of a second piece on a normal item.
5th and 6th would be = to that of a third piece on a normal item.
7th and 8th would be = to that of a fourth piece on a normal item.
9th and 10th would be = to that of a fifth piece on a normal item.
SE count discount cowls from being used to get the 5 times meld achievement. -
02-18-2012, 08:27 AMMychaelI decided to check into this...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinseykinz
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...1329520604.jpghttp://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...1329520645.jpg
And they do indeed have mismatched hoods! And that kinda says a lot for how it could work out.
Though some cowls could remain (like seers cowl, for example), it would be nice if you could have a "Woolen Hood" (in yellow):
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...29521065-a.jpg
That you could just wear over any garment. I'm not sure what the THM body pieces could be called though. -
02-18-2012, 09:28 AMRaldo
I like the idea of separating the hood from the cowl.
Shroud, perhaps? Other options include shawl or cloak. I was going to say gown, but we apparently already have gowns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mychael