Chocobo DF a great disappointment.

I thought the new chocobo DF would match us up with other players.

Turns out no, it's just the same thing as the GS, you can now just queue up anywhere for it.:mad:

I would literally wait 30mins+ just to race other players only. Instead, we are just getting the same old, wait 20 or so seconds, and be matched up with only NPCs. Why even display the "less than 5mins" wait timer, there's no point.

I just get thrown into any old ordinary race with NPCs, despite it being cross-server now, because it won't wait to fill up with players.

I suspect players are too busy doing new content atm.

Even if that is the case, the duty finder still doesn't allow all that much time to fill up with players. You're just stuck with NPCs as always. If anything, since not many people race chocobos, it will only get worse in terms of player numbers queuing for the duty.

Well that actually sounds good to me. The wording they used made me worry it was ONLY going to be races against other players making me worry it was no longer going to be worth it at all to do these races. I was definitely not about to sit around waiting for 30+ minutes or possibly never see a queue pop waiting for other players for this. If I’m doing it I’m there to level a bird and/or get my mgp and go.

Not sure why they couldn’t add an option for only human opponents for those who want that through. But I’m glad they didn’t just get rid of npc races. In fact I wish they would add an option to not even bother spending 20 seconds looking for others and just insta pop the races.

They should just have it that if you enter the races from the gold saucer, that you race against NPCs, and if you use the DF, you race against players. That's how I thought they were going to implement it, but they didn't sadly :/

I suppose this is a matter of personal preference. I find it perfect.

Personally I'd hate to wait 30 mins for real players (though I do think this change will get more players to queue up). All I wanted was the ability to queue without having to go to the gold saucer. After all, that means now if I decide to go work on my ARR sightseeing log, I can go somewhere ahead of time and do some races while I wait for the correct time range.

Or if I know raid night's coming up (and I always wait by a mender so that way once we start I don't have to go far when we repair), and someone's late, it's something to do that doesn't take very long while waiting for them to get on.

Make a chocobo race pf?

I love chocobo racing, if I had to wait 30 minutes per race that would be a nightmare.

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Originally Posted by AmalahRose

I love chocobo racing, if I had to wait 30 minutes per race that would be a nightmare.

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But if you had the *option* to do either way, that'd be the best idea, right? ;)

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

But if you had the *option* to do either way, that'd be the best idea, right? ;)

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Well of course, if there is a way that everybody could be happy that would be great.

Maybe they could add a quick match feature that works as it does now and a full match feature that would wait until the duty is filled.

I did about a dozen races last night. Two races did have another player and the XP bonus for racing against another player is still rewarded. I also waited about twice as long for those races that had another player. The first time it happened, I wondered why the queue was longer than normal. Once I saw it showed waiting for confirmation from two players instead of one, I figured it out.

I think they could double the queue wait time to try to match more players against each other without the wait seeming excessive. I used to go from the race register to Cuff-a-Cur and get the race pop up right as I was finishing the second game of Cuff-a-Cur.

I feel like the best solution would be to have the system give a little bit more time to match with players, but after X minutes, say...5, you get matched with NPCs? and then if you want in instantly, you can go to the Saucer for a guaranteed race against NPCs.

The best way to handle this is two queues - a "quick queue" and a "long queue" choice. Long queue has, say, a ten minute time limit to look for other players while quick is as now.

i also have a problem with the new duty finder option...

actually i am winning almost every race with my super sprint chocobo and i feel really bad for the other people i meet in R300 who don't have a high end chocobo (yet) and have no chance against me. they probably only want to win the 10 races for the challange log, but i make it impossible for them.
before the duty finder i could just wait on the chocobo square until they disappeared in the next race and i was queuing up after them, so we were in different races. but without seeing them it's impossible to do that anymore.

so i tried the option to run only with my party, wich means me alone against the NPCs, but for whatever reason this mode don't give any MGP rewards and i don't want to lose out on 20k MGP for that 20 challange log races.

i imagine this whole duty finder thing will lead to other problems when the make it rain event starts. when everyone with an R300 chocobo wants to use his "MGP machine" during that event and the races will have real people instead of NPCs we will lose out on MGP.
since winning against the NPCs is more easily than other max build R300 chocobos and of course only one person can win, everyone else will get punished.

i don't want other people in my races, because that makes the experience for everyone worse. and i think that should not be the case.

we already have an EXP bonus when more than one player participates in one race. i want to suggest to add an MGP bonus as well, to balance out the reduced winning chance. it would be a bonus for winning against real people instead of NPCs too.
i also want to suggest to add an MGP bonus to the bonus roulette after the race. with a lvl 50 chocobo the bonus EXP from that roulette are completely useless and waiting for the roulette roll is just a waste of time...

We'll have to wait and see how it works out. People won't always be going up against you and others with chocobos like yours (they could be queuing while you're already racing) so they'll still have the opportunity get their challenge log wins. Just participating still earns MGP even if it isn't as much as a win earns.

You'll see alot more racers next week most likely due to the make it rain event

Wish it was as fluid as Mario Kart or this

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...HAQKpz_ufXYmJx

I would play it all day.

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You'll see alot more racers next week most likely due to the make it rain event

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I had 4 other players in one race last night. Several had one other player. It's starting to pick up already.

Good to note for the event that doing Party race while solo will let you face a full group of NPC's. While that won't get you exp, it will get you Challenge log MGP, so you can aim for 10 wins before switching over to regular mode.

I'm not sure how the regular mode works but my fresh low rank chocobo was put straight into a rank 60 race and decimated over and over by about 3-7 other players per race, even with training. Switched to Party race for a clean 10 wins, then back to normal to continue gaining exp and mgp.

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Good to note for the event that doing Party race while solo will let you face a full group of NPC's. While that won't get you exp, it will get you Challenge log MGP, so you can aim for 10 wins before switching over to regular mode.

I'm not sure how the regular mode works but my fresh low rank chocobo was put straight into a rank 60 race and decimated over and over by about 3-7 other players per race, even with training. Switched to Party race for a clean 10 wins, then back to normal to continue gaining exp and mgp.

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There's a difference between rank and rating. The races are based on rating. The higher the chocobo's pedigree, the higher its base rating even at Rank 1.