[dev] Magic Sword

Was talking with some friends the other night about what could be added from previous FF games and "Magic Sword" came up. When I say magic sword, I mean FF9 style where Vivi powers up Steiner's sword, which then unleashes a powerful elemental attack (Details).

When I consider what it could be like in FFXIV, I imagine a mage class (thaum or con with respective elements) nuking another melee character, giving that character the ability to do some good elemental damage for a single attack or short time (not talking FFXI en-spells here). It would need to be implemented in a way that all classes enjoy the strategy, for instance:

1. CON/THM nukes another character, giving them said elemental power up
2. Nuked player performs an attack (auto, or WS?) that performs extra elemental damage
3. Nuked player receives enmity for most or all of the damage

A lot of these idea threads are pretty stupid (and something like this might be coming back with battle regimens?), but I was curious what other people thought.

They use a fire arrow in the opening scene against the marbol. Basically the same thing you're asking. And yes, I'd love to see a class dedicated to this as well. Would be fun to play as it would likely benefit the player and the target much more if the spells are coordinated to go off with the target's weapon skill. Anything that makes fights more tactical is a plus in my book.

For a second I thought you meant an invisible ghost (assumed) wielding a visible floating sword that you must defeat. But I like your idea too.

This was a job in FF5, the Mystic Knight. Could be a future job from Gladiator.

I pitched this thread about 6 months ago.

Thread was titled Magic Knight or Rune Knight with some examples of how class mechanics could work.

Recieved no negative feedback or trolling from this community (which is rare), so the players must think its a good idea.

Sounds like the mage class "Animator" is in order. Arcane master, skilled in the arts of animating or embueing inanimate objects with arcane magics.

considering this is in the opening movie with the archer and mage, I still have no idea why its not in the game. Also what was that weird bubbly spell the chick casted on the boat ride to limsa liminsa? Thats not in the game....... ALL LIES!

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Originally Posted by Irondude

considering this is in the opening movie with the archer and mage, I still have no idea why its not in the game. Also what was that weird bubbly spell the chick casted on the boat ride to limsa liminsa? Thats not in the game....... ALL LIES!

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I want the shield spell so much. I've already talked about it in other threads so much.

I'd love for something like this. They got easily give this to the Bard job.

After reading what their view was on spellcasting, I couldn't see them making a class that just focuses on buffing/debuffing. So in this case, they'd have to make these attacks really strong and do something other than just buffing a friend.

I was almost getting a vibe from Final Fantasy Advanced Tactics 2. The spellblade would imbue her attacks with a debuff. Like she would cover her sword in oil and "oil" down the target, which would make them extremely weak to the next fire based attack. Or she would slow them, put them to sleep, poison them. You catch my drift. It would be a great way to bring in a DD debuffer class.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

For a second I thought you meant an invisible ghost (assumed) wielding a visible floating sword that you must defeat. But I like your idea too.

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just because it's invisible doesn't mean it's a ghost

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Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

They use a fire arrow in the opening scene against the marbol. Basically the same thing you're asking. And yes, I'd love to see a class dedicated to this as well. Would be fun to play as it would likely benefit the player and the target much more if the spells are coordinated to go off with the target's weapon skill. Anything that makes fights more tactical is a plus in my book.

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I thought the opening scene showed an ARC getting buffed that added flame to the arrow..

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Originally Posted by Crispy_Rice

I thought the opening scene showed an ARC getting buffed that added flame to the arrow..

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Yea, and that's exactly what the OP is asking, is it not?

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Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

Yea, and that's exactly what the OP is asking, is it not?

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But that's not what you said lol. You said he simply used a flame arrow, nothing about buffing xD

Battle Mage!!!!

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

But that's not what you said lol. You said he simply used a flame arrow, nothing about buffing xD

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Well, sorry my terminology wasn't 100% accurate, but I'm pretty sure that anyone that has seen the opening CS would have known what I was referring to.

point is add that sh*t!

It needs to be something that requires cooperation between party members, and something that offers enough of a reward (i.e. damage, enmity redirection) to be worth using.

For instance on Thaum, with any reasonably good gear/materia equipped, it is very easy to pull hate off tanks. You can either pace yourself (boring, but effective), or you could have another option that allows you help the tank do more damage and keep things under control at a damage/mp tradeoff.

EDIT: For the FFXI players, remember being 37ish and doing SATA+skillchain on the tank? The damage was good, and the tank had it much easier. The cost was cooperation between players.

I feel like the combo system in place actually lends itself really well to this idea.

Thinking along the lines of...

>Thaumaturge targets Gladiator with Thunder Spell.

>Lightning effect goes off around the Gladiator's sword - he now has a combo timer activated (similar to when doing a self combo).

>Gladiator then has that 10 second time period to perform a weapon skill (Specific? Any?) that will have the added damage and effect of thunder.

Simple and uses a system that already in place.