The old civilization of Gelmorra and the goddess Nophica

Hello again, fellas o' the void (or Void *cough*check here Ferne*cough*)!

I've a Great interest in the named places on the map written in Eorzean characters. I wish they all had a story of their own, as I requested in another thread.
The one that intrerests me the most is probably the Gelmorra Ruins north of Camp Emerald Moss (and the peaceful, rewarding-for-your-endeavors area of Proud Creek above), so in patch 1.20 I was surely glad to learn some first informations from Millith Ironheart in Buscarron's Fold:

http://www.gwcdn.com/albums/images/4...2ae50005b3.jpg

Today, I also read this post in Reinheart translations' Topic, a looong lore post Foxclon of the Japanese Community Team wrote some days ago, about the original japanese name of the abilities Sacred Prism and Shroud of Saints, that are originally called “Compassion of the Goddess” and “Protection of the Goddess”, a reference to the goddess Nophica “big-boobs”, the Matron.

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl...um02/img01.png

Even if I understood most of Reinheart's translation, I'd like to ask Fernehalwes, renowned voisent of the LOC team that often seismic screams us some interesting lore tidbits, if:

Can we have an official translation of that post?

At the beginning of it, Gelmorra is briefly mentioned, but I don't understand very well that part. Maybe it says that the Conjurers were originally from the underground city of Gelmorra and learned there their first arts and ability to commune with the Twelveswood's elementals?
Surely Nophica appears to have been the patron deity of Gelmorra, too.

Lastly, considering those 2 abilities have that little backstory in their names, was it intended to remove the “Goddess” part in the English localization, or is there some other meaning in Sacred Prism and Shroud of Saints, like in their japanese counterparts?
Foxclon says their name would have been too long in English, but “Goddess' Compassion” and “Goddess' Protection” don't seem that long. Just asking, I'm fine with localization's choices. :)


Well, anyway, when you've the time, if you can answer me and post an official translation of this, offering any other new tidbits would make amends for not already posting it (just kidding, of course, I know you're eye-on patch 1.21!). ;)
Since not everyone follows Reinheart's translations, more adventurers might read it here in the Localization forum... Then if we can trick/lure one among the morbol, the opo-opo, the cactuar or the snurble to bring the official translation up in the dev tracker, even better.

I think those kind of lore posts deserve their own attention. :)


Thanks, and take your time!

Cloudio Onizuka, future Gelmorra Explorer


P.S.: For those interested, here's an older post of Ferne on Nophica.

Heck! This poster is a trap...just can't go past it without stopping a min to admire its "features"! It's by far the best art from FFXIV until now! @_@

Anyway...since you seem to have placed a voidsent bait somewhere here, i'd like to leave an off-topic question to our LOCy buds since this annoyed me even from when i still played FFXI...

Why is it "Valentione" and not Valentine? Is it a holiday whose name cannot be used here or is there something else?

Uhm, maybe you should ask that in the Valentione's Day Topic or in a new one (I think it's just another one of the many puns in Eorzea, being Arabelle de Valentione the name of the countess of Ishgard which the festivity pays tribute to), this is a discussion about a completely different matter.
Ferne and Co. haven't been posting in a while, I bet it's because they're super busy with 1.21, and having more topics in a single Topic wouldn't help them. ;)

Ya just didn't want to create a new topic for this (didn't saw the one you put the link or i'd have it posted there). I also understand that there is a lore behind it...'m just curious about the name itself because this one in special was used at FFXI too and just looks like some kind of mispelling that was kept since then.

*shily raises a special luring Ahriman Glass Lens*

Ehm, sorry for bringing this back up, but since it ended on second page and over one month has passed, I wanted to ask if there's still a possibility to have that post translated and receive an answer to my other lore questions in the first post.

I was waiting for post patch 1.21 before doing the request again, as I know the LOC Team is ultra-busy over there in the void, so here I am. ;) The Localization section is always the first one I visit every day, and will still be in any case. :cool:

*goes back to hunt down for distant saints*

Hey Onizuka,

I just wanted to assure you that we haven't forgotten about you (or your post), but as you mentioned, we are ultra-busy working to get in-game content translated...as well as preparing things for 2.0. We're essentially making two games at once! This has left little time for anything beyond what the almighty Yoshi-P has delivered to our doorsteps.

However, all is not lost! We are currently in talks with the Community & Service team (the guys that run the Lodestone) to add a Lore page to the forums, providing us with a proper place to put lore posts (including the monster you mentioned), and at the same time, a better place for players to post their questions, hold discussions, and speculate about past, present, and future events. Once we have an answer from C&S, I'll get back to you!

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

Hey Onizuka,

I just wanted to assure you that we haven't forgotten about you (or your post), but as you mentioned, we are ultra-busy working to get in-game content translated...as well as preparing things for 2.0. We're essentially making two games at once! This has left little time for anything beyond what the almighty Yoshi-P has delivered to our doorsteps.

However, all is not lost! We are currently in talks with the Community & Service team (the guys that run the Lodestone) to add a Lore page to the forums, providing us with a proper place to put lore posts (including the monster you mentioned), and at the same time, a better place for players to post their questions, hold discussions, and speculate about past, present, and future events. Once we have an answer from C&S, I'll get back to you!

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A lore page on the Lodestone would be a great idea! Thanks, Ferne.

I'm sorry that you're crazy-busy. I have to admit, though... the fact that you're working on 2.0 is exciting news to me. Some people might think "well duh, of course!" But back when the 2.0 PDFs hit, there was an interview with Yoshida in which he said that, for the most part, just programmers were working on 2.0 (as it was in its early stages). Then in a late January producer's letter, a 2.0 build was "on the shop floor". Now 2.0 work has made its way to the localization team...exciting!

Um...for me, that is. Again, sorry you're so busy! (^^);;

Of course I understand that you're all full of work and just wanted to have a sign of life. Thanks for taking the time to answer me. :) And wow, the LOC Team is already on the move with 2.0, that's good to know!

I'll definitely be looking forward the “Lore Section”: it'd be a Great place for us lore-interested adventurers to share our informations.

The story of Eorzea has such a big potential and it's a shame many just skip through quests' text, so I'm sure the Lore section and a direct feed with you fellas from the void will please those that like to enjoy reading every dialogue like me (and maybe interest those other adventurers used with the skippin', who knows). :rolleyes:

I'm a big fan of story and lore, and even though I don't hardly post in the Localization forums, I'd like to thank Ferne and the others from the LOC team for posting.

I put this as one of my suggestions in the newest player poll, but I figured I'd mention it here as well. You specifically mentioned putting a Lore section in the forums, and I think that'd be great for Q&A. But it'd also be nice if there were a section for it on the front page of the Lodestone on the navbar to the left with the rest of the different sections for already established information pertaining to the lore and story of FFXIV.

Something I'm wondering... could the lore page on the lodestone be reflected by what we have done in-game? So completing certain quests adds pages to the lore as our characters themselves discover more of the world's secrets?

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

However, all is not lost! We are currently in talks with the Community & Service team (the guys that run the Lodestone) to add a Lore page to the forums, providing us with a proper place to put lore posts (including the monster you mentioned), and at the same time, a better place for players to post their questions, hold discussions, and speculate about past, present, and future events. Once we have an answer from C&S, I'll get back to you!

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Exactly what I requested for in the Player's Poll the Third!

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Originally Posted by Onizuka

... Nophica “big-boobs”, the Matron

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+1 for this!

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Originally Posted by Shyd

+1 for this!

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I laughed so hard when I read it too! xD

Forgive the Necro-bump but I figured since this was talking about Gelmorra I'd post a few pictures of the ruins themselves. Situated north of Camp Emerald Moss is the Gelmorra Ruins. I decided to head out that way myself and made it after a few deaths.

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/3...1335588732.jpg
First we got a distant shot. There was a lot of Morbol in the area and other nasties that would quickly make a snack out of me.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5...1335588651.jpg
A center shot of the ruins itself. Several smaller rocks just like the one found at Amberscale Rock exist in the area. Perhaps they're connected in some way? In the center is a very large hole filled with shrubbery.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3...1335588656.jpg
Closer shot of the rocks surrounding the huge hole. They're exactly alike to the amberscale rock found near Humblehearth. Interesting, no?

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2...1335588667.jpg
Inside the hole. It's just a bunch of shrubbery.

If you travel farther back towards the north of the ruins there's a small dead end with water. Sadly there was nothing out here besides Qiquirns, nothing of great interest at all. Anyway what do you think? Those stones could be connected to entering Gelmorra perhaps. In fact the screenshots of all the ruins we've seen in 2.0 I'm betting are in fact the lost ruins of Gelmorra likely surfaced.

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Originally Posted by Mihana

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3...1335588656.jpg
Closer shot of the rocks surrounding the huge hole. They're exactly alike to the amberscale rock found near Humblehearth. Interesting, no?

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Is it just me, or do they look like Tonberries?

Those rocks are sprinkled here and there all over the Shroud, for example this one:

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/u...1327454849.jpg

I kinda doubt these leftovers from old lore will make a big comeback in 2.0 though, so we probably won't find out what those ruins were supposed to be.

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

Hey Onizuka,

I just wanted to assure you that we haven't forgotten about you (or your post), but as you mentioned, we are ultra-busy working to get in-game content translated...as well as preparing things for 2.0. We're essentially making two games at once! This has left little time for anything beyond what the almighty Yoshi-P has delivered to our doorsteps.

However, all is not lost! We are currently in talks with the Community & Service team (the guys that run the Lodestone) to add a Lore page to the forums, providing us with a proper place to put lore posts (including the monster you mentioned), and at the same time, a better place for players to post their questions, hold discussions, and speculate about past, present, and future events. Once we have an answer from C&S, I'll get back to you!

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That's nice to hear but i would love to have it also in a in-game Library (and in some books to find in Eorzea to collect -and add in our collection personal library once housing will take place-). :)

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Originally Posted by Mihana

Forgive the Necro-bump but I figured since this was talking about Gelmorra I'd post a few pictures of the ruins themselves. Situated north of Camp Emerald Moss is the Gelmorra Ruins. I decided to head out that way myself and made it after a few deaths.

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If you travel farther back towards the north of the ruins there's a small dead end with water. Sadly there was nothing out here besides Qiquirns, nothing of great interest at all. Anyway what do you think? Those stones could be connected to entering Gelmorra perhaps. In fact the screenshots of all the ruins we've seen in 2.0 I'm betting are in fact the lost ruins of Gelmorra likely surfaced.

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As I was reading this, something came to mind.

If I recall correctly, in the Gridanian Storyline you discover that Dunstan and a number of other rebels are operating outside the control of the Wailing Barracks. A moogle makes reference to people staying in ruins to the north. Could these ruins be that place?

Man, I'll be super sad if they do away with alot of these cool little story-to-be tidbits that I loved finding when the game first launched, imagining what they'd do with it. If they're going to get rid of any of that stuff (Like the ruins or the rocks everywhere, as well as a few other interesting things around The Black Shroud) I'd at least like to get as much information about what it was supposed to be xD Even though it'd likely be pointless if it was being removed in ARR for whatever reason.

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

Is it just me, or do they look like Tonberries?

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To me, they look like penguins. Tonberry makes much more sense though. :P

Nophica is the only reason i joined the Twin Adder <3 before starting to play i thought Nophica art and Kan-E-Senna were the same chick >_<! oh well

My memories of the temple of uggaliph are stirred....
Click here if you don't know what I'm talkin' about
It's an FFXI zone

http://i.imgur.com/zGdUdap.jpg?1

Hey Future Gelmorra Explore-uh!

Uh... there's a leve that requires that I take a sledgehammer to your precious ruins. =/ The elementals supposedly don't like them... Maybe there's something they want to hide?

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Hey Future Gelmorra Explore-uh!

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I don't know why I laughed so hard at this. Probably because, like the childrens' show, it only rhymes in the Kennedy household. Dora the Gemorra Explore-ahh.