Failing Static Trials for Doing My Job - Fed Up

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Though I am with you on this topic, as far as reporting the groups, I'm fairly certain you would have to put in an in-game trouble ticket in order to get in touch with a GM. I do agree that healers shouldn't be forced to DPS as that is not their primary function but the community, as a whole, expects the healer to do damage as well.
As far as the elitests go, I would say that you just haven't found your ideal group yet. There's always going to be those people with high expectations and filtering through those people is just part of finding your group. I guess just keep pugging until you do find your team. Sorry I don't have too much good advice, but keep your chin up mate, it'll all work out in the long run.

This has nothing to do with being toxic.
The members of the static can decide on their own if they want you as a team mate or not. If they think your playstyle doesnt match theirs, then it is their right to tell you sorry.

And to be honest, if you have less than 200 dps, your actions are probably useless a lot of the time. People dont need 100% HP all the time, they also dont need to be healed if the incoming damage won't kill them. Of course this takes a lot of experience because you have to anticipate the mechanics of the fight. This means you are either (over)healing way too much or you simply stay around and do nothing, while the others try to get the Hp of the boss to 0. Oh and just to make sure, I'm not telling you to get a 100 parse and dealing 3k damage, but you could at least try to contribute more to the fight.
Also saying "I can solo heal fight xyz" isn't really an argument, because the static you applied for propably had a second healer.

Solid troll topic, gotta say I would have bitten if I didn't take a look at your FFLogs page first.

Because of content and kit design, it's very much possible for healers to have extraordinarily low APM rates if they focus entirely on healing. This also means that the ability to maintain party health is at a very low bar compared to other MMOs and so the metrics to determine a good healer are different and primarily focus around how much DPS a healer can contribute while performing your primary duty in the party.

A high DPS healer that is able to maintain party health usually means several things:

• They understand the fight well enough to know when it is safe to DPS and when it's necessary to output heavy healing
• They understand their kit well enough to know what tools to use at which instances and not run out of MP in the process
• (In 8-man situations) They understand their partner's kit and style well enough to know when to heal and when to DPS based on their actions

With the way healing potencies are in this game, it's very much possible to top your entire party off extremely rapidly and generate a ton of overheal which is extremely inefficient use of GCDs. Combine that with how scripted the game encounters are and it's very possible to have 20-30% APM dedicated to healing tools and still be able to successfully heal the content.

There are two things I suggest in your situation:

1. Adapt and learn to start to weave DPS into your playstyle. No one needs a 99th percentile healer DPS but having the additional DPS available allows for progression groups to clear hurdles faster.
2. Find a group that uses a main healer / off healer style and take that main healer role. You'll still be requested to DPS but you can probably push more HPS than DPS and let your partner do more DPS for the two of you in turn.

Take into account that option #2 is the non-optimal way to play but it's also easier to manage and probably fits your style more. My statics doesn't explicitly play like #2 but my healing partner certainly enjoys the healing burden which leaves me many more GCDs to spend spamming Stone IV / Broil II on the target and it makes them happy so perhaps you can find a group that does the same.

[edit] Also, dunno if troll bait and don't care if troll bait either at this point~ I figure even if it's a troll post someone who has a legitimate but similar concern may read this and find my blurb above useful. Happy raiding~

When you wipe at 1% and the healer is at 0dps on the parser ... dps not my job is not going to be an acceptable excuse no matter what group your in.

Honestly, I'd say that the goal of healers when they are healing at a savage level is the following:
a) Make sure everyone stays alive.
b) DPS when you are able to.
c) Minimize overhealing.
On regular content, just a) suffices for a healer. However, when you are trying to beat a boss and you are enraging at 1%, those other two points become a lot more important. Sure, you can solo heal a fight, but you have two healers in a party - effectively using each person's cooldowns is imperative to good optimized play. You don't even need super optimized.

Yes, Yoshi-P did say that they do not take into account healer DPS when designing a fight. However, unless the DPS and Tanks are both at 90+ percentile, you won't be beating a boss' enrage without the healers helping.

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Originally Posted by Estelle9lives

Solid troll topic, gotta say I would have bitten if I didn't take a look at your FFLogs page first.

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Good eye. Current tier savage tank with multiple clears of o8s, for anyone who doesn't want to look him up. Little to nothing on healers, so while he could be new to that role, this isn't someone who has never seen savage before.

The thing, OP, is that as far as endgame is concerned, healers are expected to follow the rule of ABC (Always Be Casting). A lot of players, myself included as I have only pugged savage content up to this point, believe that healers do need to be able to BOTH heal and DPS to be effective. It isn't necessarily elitist to expect a healer to do over 200dps. Every bit of DPS counts as the enrage timer is very tight in Savage content. Obviously, healing is your top priority, but if there's no immediate need to heal, then yes, you are expected to DPS in most groups, static or no. On top of that, if you were trying to get into a static, they're giving you a chance to see if you are a good fit for them. As long as they aren't harassing you, then it's not toxic.

Think about it this way - they could've just dropped you without telling you.

OP didn't care enough to hide his logs, I don't care enough to resize this image...

https://i.imgur.com/KNHmZYL.png

That's just the right size (and still this thread is probably going to go on for 12 pages).

Dps is for dps, just spam Medica and Medica II so u have more time to cycle through the cheer on emotes for ur tank.

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Originally Posted by ChrossDash

For the most part they put me into Byakko to see how I do but they drop me after one run.

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You didn't qualify. Suck it up and find a new group who is willing to take you.

Also take criticism and don't conplain if it's just.

Can I report you for being toxic because you don't dps?

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

EDIT: Damn. I took the bait. Disregard.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

OP didn't care enough to hide his logs, I don't care enough to resize this image...

https://i.imgur.com/KNHmZYL.png

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I don't know, I'd say there's too much green in those logs for the OP to be trolling.

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Originally Posted by HoodRat

I don't know, I'd say there's too much green in those logs for the OP to be trolling.

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Official Forums (Savage)

Hood Rat
Best Pref. Avg = 78.3
Median Perf. Avg = 56.8
Phantom Train Med% = 57
Demon Chardarnook Med% = 69
Guardian Med% = 49
Kefka Med% = 50

Chross Dash
Best Pref. Avg = 56.2
Median Perf. Avg = 32.7
Phantom Train Med% = 49
Demon Chardarnook Med% = 43
Guardian Med% = 25
Kefka Med% = 18

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I dunno, Hood Rat is certainly showing they've gotten better WAR numbers overall versus Chross Dash when I look at the logs.

Careful people. These forums are known for dropping the banhammer when attacks get personal...

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Originally Posted by HoodRat

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I'm still trying to figure out where you got 2 months from...are you from the future?

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I'm from the future. I've brought this back with me as proof.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...97/616/a10.jpg

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Originally Posted by Ghishlain

Hood Rat
Best Pref. Avg = 78.3
Median Perf. Avg = 56.8

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Those actually went down a bit since we cleared God Kefka for the first time. ;-;

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Originally Posted by HoodRat

Those actually went down a bit since we cleared God Kefka for the first time. ;-;

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~Revised~
Best Pref Avg. = 70.3*
Median Pref Avg. = 53.1*

Your first kill is also estimated to be at 38* with an equal DPS to the Chross Dash's first clear as well.

I'd still say you're better off ;) Given the fact the other WAR is 56.2 Best / 32.7 Pref.

Congrats on your clear BTW ^.^ Right on time for the weekly reset~ And so much for that two month guess because going from February 26th to April 9th is clearly 2 months = 59 days and not 42 days (6 weeks)

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Originally Posted by Ghishlain

Congrats on your clear BTW ^.^

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Thanks! ^^

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They say having under 200 dps is horrible and my primary job is to heal as little as possible.

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I get that this is a troll, but the title says enough - getting kicked for 'doing my job', also known as "I fulfilled my role description". I wouldn't want you on my team if that is how you view things. By that logic, let's get tanks in who never leave stance - or better yet, stack enough enmity that they can AFK until the clear/wipe. I mean, we don't really need their damage or utility, do we? Of course not - we just want them to "Tank"!

It's the entire group's responsibility to get the target dead. The 'game' may put big shiny brackets around words like "Tank" and "Healer" so that Joe Soap can take it literally, but if you're walking into Party Finder and encountering people who expect you to do more than live up to your role's title, then that's too bad. Sad fact is that they don't even need these reasons/excuses to cherry pick. Hell, some people out there might kick you for playing a Potatofell. Have fun with that.

Lowest quality bait I've ever seen, clearly not a fsh main.