Jobs unlock at 30?

Soo, if I understand what the what about the jobs. You have to have the main at 30 and the sub class at 15ish or whatever. I would really like it if you had to be 50 to unlock it or lvl 40, with a tough line of quests where you have to have 8 people with you. As I said in another thread leveling takes little or no effort, also most people have level 50s all across the board. Idk level 30 just seems really low.... Unless they change the speed of leveling(wishes).

was confirmed long ago and im 110% sure its not gonna change

jobs are rank 30 unlocks

All of these changes aren't about the current playerbase, it's more about the long run (2.0 relaunch) so level 30 is actually fine when you consider the new players who'll be joining.

lulz and such.


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Ya, I know ^.^ just wishful thinking :D

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lulz and such.


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Why did you link me to ff11?

taking into account that the 2.0 release will have new zones and a load of new content i think lvl30 is fine.

My understanding of why they're implementing this is so that a player who only wants to focus on one class, is not obligated to cross-class by taking advantage of the job. And the sooner the job starts, the smaller the cross-class gap.

(i.e. I think you can only cross-class four abilities or so at level 25ish, so for a newer player, there's probably not going to be too much to take.)

Job quests will also happen every 5 levels after 30 for (presumably) the other abilities and possibly AF.

Well, thing about getting level 30 it takes like a day or day n a half. Doesn't take long at all.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Well, thing about getting level 30 it takes like a day or day n a half. Doesn't take long at all.

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I think it'll take a new player a while.

For us that have had a year plus, it probably won't be too difficult to unlock the first few abilities.

If you unlocked the jobs at lvl 50 what would be the point of a job?

Having it at lvl 30 allows you to XP as a war, pld, blm, whm, whatever. Jobs are not for end-game only, they're supposed to enhance the entire game.

And 50 takes about a week or two at most I don't think it's that much of a difference. And like mentioned before unlocking the job doesn't necessarily mean it'll be fully optimized. There's more quest to get abilities/af/enhance the job post 30. I believe 30 is a good lvl. You don't want a person to getting all the way to 50 thinking that they'll like a job when it turns out they don't like how it plays out in party. 30 gives them a chance to try it out without much commitment.

Either way, I'm super excited.

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And 50 takes about a week or two at most I don't think it's that much of a difference. And like mentioned before unlocking the job doesn't necessarily mean it'll be fully optimized. There's more quest to get abilities/af/enhance the job post 30. I believe 30 is a good lvl. You don't want a person to getting all the way to 50 thinking that they'll like a job when it turns out they don't like how it plays out in party. 30 gives them a chance to try it out without much commitment.

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good point :D

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Well, thing about getting level 30 it takes like a day or day n a half. Doesn't take long at all.

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I believe the point is that you have 20 levels to learn how to play your job. By the time you reach 50 you should be proficient with both your class and your job.

Well, I really don't believe that to be true, unless we get longer fights, with adjusted exp of course because that how you people want it. Because, I'm level 50 thm, all I know is just hitting thundara and fire, I never use any other abilities because really, I never had a chance to use em. Fights are sooo fast that I just forget about em.

30 is a good number. I would say it's the point where soloing starts to get pretty slow/boring and people prefer parties. Having a specialized role at 30 is the PERFECT TIME to start having it.

Yes, it doesn't take too long, but it does take some effort and commitment... plus, the quests won't be super easy, and there will be OTHER quests as well. The 'advanced jobs' unlocked at 30 in FFXI, which may have taken more time to obtain, but in the end was a much LOWER level in comparison to now. The cap is 50. How high do you expect people to play a job to unlock something else?

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Well, thing about getting level 30 it takes like a day or day n a half. Doesn't take long at all.

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But that's the level where it becomes more beneficial for a player to group up instead of solo. thus that's when they unlock the group specifications.

A lot of what's do is with the mind that 2.0 will bring an influx of players who will slow down to go off and do things like GC quests and farm equipment in Toto Rak and Ship-a-shoe.

Some players may reach 30 in "a day and a half" but many players will explore the world and taken their time.

Making the leveling process take a long time for the sake of it taking a long time is just bad design.

ITT: People not thinking about a level cap raise in the future.

I'm confused, is this thread about you wanting SE to treat a core aspect of gameplay as a max lvl nm drop, or secretly another topic complaining about the lvling speed?

In any case, 30 makes sense. New players won't get to 30 in a day and a half, there still getting used to the game, how it plays, and not to mention there has been quite a bit of lvl 20-30 content added like joining GC that will slow them down and make jobs a nice accomplishment point. Not too mention atm the lowest instance is for 30s, which is the kind of thing jobs are designed for. That's cool that you're level 50 but the idea is that new ppl will enjoy the game too.

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Well, thing about getting level 30 it takes like a day or day n a half. Doesn't take long at all.

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That's because you have other class abilities you can cross-class with.

Played FFXI for a long time and played FFXIV since beta up until pry 3-4 months ago (planed on coming back when job content hit). After seeing all the improvements and my old LS being long but disbanded i decided to start fresh. Knowing what i am doing game progression wise and mechanic wise, if you follow the story line missions, grab some quests, Company quests, leves, level DoH, and DoL it takes far beyond a day and a half to reach any where near 30 in a DoW.

also when you say day and a half im assuming you mean 36 hours of gameplay about.

If i were to throw every other aspect of the game aside and rush a DoW to 30 your pry right i could do it, however i would foresee some financial problems in obtaining gear along the way while rushing 30 fresh.

I will say in a closing note im not one to rush, i have always been one to take a long time and enjoy the content and people i share it with. WoW and Diablo ruined rushing for me and created a very negative stigma for me.