People found a way to skip MSQ cutecenes

Today in my MSQ roulette there was a person that was skipping cutscenes on the PC. I won't say how they were doing it but I'm going to assume this could/should be considered an exploit? They would pull the boss and lock everyone out of the fight as well.

Side question, what do people do when one person is just AFK at the start and no one else in the group will help vote kick them? Sorry but I don't like people freely mooching off the work I (and others) do.

I think that would be a bug rather then an exploit. I have no stake in the designation though, as MSQ is one of the roulettes i wont run. As for your side question, if you cant kick someone and cant abide them getting a free ride from your effort you dont have a lot of options. Waiting for them to get back and leaving are all i can think of at the moment. If they come back and refuse to help that can be reportable though.

The only way I'm aware actually requires you to mess with your operating system....by definition its an exploit as your defeating the mechanics SE put there (wrong or right) to avoid the whole thing in the first place.
A bug by definition is like a cut-scene hanging or not auto advancing or stuck. Some bugs become exploits.
Course this is my IT side talking here.
Report the guy if you want too.
Not much can be done about it aside from SE deciding to take action.

Hackers always find a way to get them their way always this happens in every mmo to ever have too exist

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Originally Posted by Godofhealing

Hackers always find a way to get them their way always this happens in every mmo to ever have too exist

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Oh lovely....someone who thinks they know what hacking is...and clearly don't have a clue.

To be fair they should stop forcing us to watch the cutscenes. It solves nothing. People still want to rush, even more so now with these stupid forced cutscenes! I died because people wanted to rush and I couldn't activate the terminals for being beaten to my death. By the time I caught up again I was locked out the boss fight, and I was the tank!

All those people that moaned about not getting to watch the cutscenes, well now you get to watch them... over and over and over again until you're blue in the face.

I know of the method and I would personally consider it an exploit.

Personally, I treat MSQR and Eureka as opportunities to catch up on other things so I don't get the point of doing something that you can't even guarantee the 7 other people in your party would do, and that requires more effort/typing than just watching some anime.

I came back to the game yesterday after a multi-year hiatus and my brother said they solved the problem of starting starting the dungeon before all the players have finished watching the cut-scene.

Except, players were skipping it frequently and I was getting messages that the battle was starting in the midst of a cut-scene. I was wondering wth was going on.

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Originally Posted by Godofhealing

Hackers always find a way to get them their way always this happens in every mmo to ever have too exist

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Do you even know what Hacking is ?

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Originally Posted by ManuelBravo

Do you even know what Hacking is ?

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I apologize but anytime anyone accuses hackers of silly things.... I can't help but think of this....

D.Va: Ooh, I can't stand you hackers! You give those of us with skill a bad name!
Sombra: You know that isn't the kind of hacking I do, right?

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Originally Posted by ManuelBravo

Do you even know what Hacking is ?

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Hacking is when your screen says "Access Denied" until you randomly punch keyboard keys for 20 seconds and it changes to "Access Granted."

if it's only 1 of 8 that person can't so much anyway.

also that whole can't skip cs in story roulette is a failure.

I tried to queue in the weekend and never had to wait so long for it to pop. eventually i gave up cause even if it popped i didn't have enough time to finish it cause of the cs.

I hope SE will find a different solution as with the next expansion the issue will be even bigger

Well, this didn't actually solve the problem of people getting locked out anyway. I'm currently in that roulette - the longest one with the unbelievable amount of cutscenes - and the rest of my team is there a hair ahead and that means a lockout by the time my system loads me back in.

Between that and the queues shooting up to an hour + for dps, was it really worth it?

This dungeons sucks. The worst part is that those players who were complaining will run it literally ONCE, and then be just as averse to it as the rest of us.

The only solution is to retune it to be a single player dungeon and a pack of npcs. Use the squadrons. Let it die the death it deserves as a full party dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Souljacker

I'm currently in that roulette - the longest one with the unbelievable amount of cutscenes - and the rest of my team is there a hair ahead and that means a lockout by the time my system loads me back in.

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If they're there just a few seconds before you, that's probably not from skipping cutscenes via the exploit, as in that case they'd be several minutes ahead of you in some of the praet fights.

If it's just a few seconds, that's because the cutscenes don't actually start at exactly the same time for everyone because of ping/loading differences, so the people whose CS start late get out later.

Isn't that what I said in my post? I have my doubts about anyone actually exploiting their way out of cutscenes - but it doesn't matter anyway because this change didn't solve the problem they wanted to solve regardless of any exploits. It flat out doesn't work, and all it's done is cause many players to spend two + hours of their time on ONE DUNGEON.

That's no exaggeration. An hour in the queue plus an hour for Praetorium is a little excessive even for a storyline.

So I'm still against this and now that I've completed my 'catch up' of one of each role, I'm done in the queue forever. Good luck, newbies. I hope all the complaining was worth it.

Then again, you'll all do it once and then never return to it anyway. Just like the rest of us.

What a complete waste of development time.

I used to run MSQ duty 5-7 times a week - now 0 and I know I'm not alone. So, if queues are getting longer it's SE. The CS's are a wast of time and another knee jerk reaction from SE

I still run MSQ roulette to help out people and get some Poetic tomes for Relic, GC tomes, and other stuff.

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Originally Posted by Bloodkraft

I used to run MSQ duty 5-7 times a week - now 0 and I know I'm not alone. So, if queues are getting longer it's SE. The CS's are a wast of time and another knee jerk reaction from SE

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I used to run MSQ duty 5-7 times a week also & now 0 and I know I'm not alone. So, if queues are getting longer it's SE. The CS's are a waste of time and another knee jerk reaction from SE

Well my impression is that they want the "new" players to be able to see it as they intended. I know prior you could skip through those cutscenes and I can understand especially if you already done the MSQ. Has anyone checked to see what SE has to say about it?

I'm surprised they didn't implement a system where if all players in the instance have already completed the dungeon at least once, or if all new players choose to skip cutscene, the cutscenes could be skipped by everyone. At least that ensures if there is a new player in there who wants to see the dungeon, they get to enjoy the story.

Currently you can't skip the cutscenes even if you're soloing as a lv70 who's seen the dungeon 20 times in the past. Which is bonkers.

My best guess is that it's an "all or nothing" system that can't handle checking party completion status and whether to give a 'skippable' or 'non-skippable' version of the cutscene. If it's as simple as enter zone -> play cutscene and only one version of the cutscene exists in their system, they've had to switch out the previous programming for the auto-scrolling unskippable one and can't just send you to one or the other.

I particularly suspect this is the case because the 'old version' doesn't even exist in the cutscene viewer at the inn any more. It still auto-scrolls, although you can at least cancel playback instead of having to let it play all the way through.

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Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan

Oh lovely....someone who thinks they know what hacking is...and clearly don't have a clue.

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Well the use is actually correct. To hack something is to break it down and understand how it works and then modify it to maximize or exploit its potential. What you're most likely referring to is cracking, specifically computers/networks through password cracking or utilizing exploits in their security. You're not wrong to use hacking in the context that you are since hacking has become synonymous with "cracking" and other means of IT intrusion, but you're wrong for calling it out.

I've seen this exploit a few times, tend to run the MSQ roulette nearly everyday since it's always been one of my favorites. Know that most of the community doesn't really care about the exploit since it's fairly unpopular content atm.

Easiest fix I can see to fix it is to just have any cutscene that was playing when you dc'd start over again when you load back into the game. Whether devs will do this or not is another matter, they might've washed their hands of it and want to let it be, the current state might be temporary till they are able to implement a more popular adjustment.