Eureka magia board: Anyone tried 2/3 or 3/2?

It occurs to me that, at least for me, all I've ever done is put all 5 into 1 spot. But after just doing a small experiment vs paz today I put those 5 into wind defense (I'm on a 7 year old computer, and those aoe's hit me before I see them oftentimes). Since it's a 3-pulse aoe, I found I could live through it just standing in it with wind defense as a rdm.

But, what if I only had 3 in it? Would that be enough to live through 2, and move? Would 2 in ice be enough to do decent (if not crazy) dmg to it? What about the reverse?

Due to the way the attack/defend bonuses work, you should be able to just go a 2/3 or a 3/2 (or 1/4 and 4/1) configuration. Any thoughts on this? I'm gonna try it, see if I can die a little less :)

iirc, the table for it has diminishinh returns. at least 2 magicites give you 50%~ and three is around 70%. so 3/2 or viceversa is imo the best returns. Unless you're trying to mitigate as much damage. Wraiths are a pain for me when I am at 2 damage and 3 defense.

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Originally Posted by Mahrze

iirc, the table for it has diminishinh returns. at least 2 magicites give you 50%~ and three is around 70%. so 3/2 or viceversa is imo the best returns. Unless you're trying to mitigate as much damage. Wraiths are a pain for me when I am at 2 damage and 3 defense.

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Wraiths (or anything lvl 25) will pretty much destroy you if you don't have all 5 points into 1 element to defend against them (speaking as a tank). Even then, you need constant healing and cooldowns rotating to make it bearable. Normal auto-attacks along with their instant-cast tank buster move will bring you to half health, or lower, in a mere second.

Back to the main topic though, I believe a 2/3 or 3/2 would work for healers/dps (in theory). Possibly lean more toward the defense side, so 2 offense/3 defense especially since you're known to lag and get caught in things. I believe 3 points is 70%? If I remember when I used to go healer/dps on Pazuzu for example his moves would hit for maybe 1/3rd or 1/4th of my total HP with 5 points into the element for defense.

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Originally Posted by Vid

Wraiths (or anything lvl 25) will pretty much destroy you if you don't have all 5 points into 1 element to defend against them (speaking as a tank). Even then, you need constant healing and cooldowns rotating to make it bearable. Normal auto-attacks along with their instant-cast tank buster move will bring you to half health, or lower, in a mere second.

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Yeah,l hence why I prefer to just DPS. Too lazy to go back, change and comeback. 5 on def if tanking high lvl stuff.

I've been doing 3/2 (str/def) so that I always have 3 on the strong element and 2 on the defensive, and it's been pretty smooth sailing as a DPS.I still kill mobs moderately fast (lvl19) and the defense is enough to stop most screw ups. I didn't notice enough of a difference to warrant going all in with 5.

For ranged DPS I think a 3/2 combo is the best. For melee a 2/3 is probably better since there is more of a chance for damage close in. For tanks I would do a 0/5. Not sure about healers.

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Originally Posted by Claviusnex

For ranged DPS I think a 3/2 combo is the best. For melee a 2/3 is probably better since there is more of a chance for damage close in. For tanks I would do a 0/5. Not sure about healers.

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I slant more towards defense as a healer, but not all the way to 0/5 because I do have some time to squeeze damage in and would like it to have some impact. But it's more important to stay alive than it is to blow stuff up when you're healing.

With the current design it's just pointless. The only way it would work is if the "defense" mod was higher than the offensive mod. Something like let's say offensive magicite is +20 but defensive is +40, then there would be more worth in having it split like 3:2 because the defense would in theory allow you to DPS more efficiently. However since the ratio is 1:1 regardless of where you place it, it's just better to go full offense because in the small scenarios in which the extra defense might allow you to keep your DPS without pulling back, you are losing that overall DPS.

Basically with your example of the 3 pulses that only occurs near the end of the Pazuzu fight, so for the first 5 mins those extra defenses does nothing for you but then in those last 3 mins it does. It it just better to deal 500 dmg the whole time and lose 10 seconds from the pulses than to deal 300 and ignore the pulses.

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Originally Posted by Airget

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It isn't 1:1. it has diminishing returns, if it was 20% per magicite on any option, i'd say w/e. But two magicite are ~50% and 3 are ~70%. So a 3/2 means 70% off bonus and 50% def bonus or viceversa if you swap it. This, losing 30% offense to gain 50% defense seems like a fair trade off as a ranged/casters DPS. Healer and Melee def 2/3. And tanks can do the same as ranged/casters, provided they are not tanking something 3+ levels above them.

I'd say it's worth doing experiments, if the update really comes in 4.3x we should be getting more mags and probably we'll start seeing NM maybe changing thier attributes, frankly atm 5 mags and 5 switches are a bit on the low side to make anything crazy, but Numbers and Pazuzu kinda give me hope (not counting that pazuzu and simurgh use different elements that their summoning mobs)

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Originally Posted by Remedi

I'd say it's worth doing experiments, if the update really comes in 4.3x we should be getting more mags and probably we'll start seeing NM maybe changing thier attributes, frankly atm 5 mags and 5 switches are a bit on the low side to make anything crazy, but Numbers and Pazuzu kinda give me hope (not counting that pazuzu and simurgh use different elements that their summoning mobs)

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I am actually expecting the new zone have dual element mobs. Since Wi >Fi >Ic is one loop and Th > Wa > Ea are the other. Mobs like Fi+Th. or Ic+Ea.

That's a possibility especially since elements are not grouped under astral and umbral.

However I think they should experiment with the second boss of castrum abania mechanic too imho

Thanks for the feedback all! I'll give it a shot.