My friend started eureka 3 days before I did and I basically can’t play with them outside of NMs now because I don’t get exp when in a party with them. And since all jobs share exp she can’t even switch over to another job to play with me.
Eureka needs a level sync function like the one in ffxi where you could sync your party level down to match your lower level members so people can actually play with their lower level friends.
I know NMs are the majority of the content but it’s not exactly enticing for new players to just die over and over again to NMs until they get enough exp to catch up rather than just making a levelling party.
Eureka needs a level sync function
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03-20-2018, 02:48 AMCabalabobEureka needs a level sync function
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03-20-2018, 02:54 AMReynhart
I think they could use the udersized party function of Duty Finder for that.
If you make a party and don't check the box, you'll be synced to the lowest level of your party. -
03-20-2018, 03:36 AMValentineSnow
They shouldn't have made the NMs give exp, it completely killed the levelling aspect of the content. Now as you say it's just dying to NMs over and over until you're strong enough to not die. They might as well just do away with the whole levelling grind and just let us play the content at this point.
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03-20-2018, 03:43 AMDelmontyb
Level Sync is needed. Yoshi-P was asked about this at FanFest for just the overworld game and said it was a good idea. I'd like to see it prioritized higher and added to the open world game, as well as Eureka. :)
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03-20-2018, 04:02 AMVstarstruckWhat are you even talking about? has nothing to do with this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reynhart
for the topic, +1, yes it does.
Edit, thinking what you meant a bit more, it still does not make sense, you enter the same level with your friend then what? They have no social search functions inside, so that idea is rather pointless. In FFXI you just hit a button after making party (forget exact details) and it makes everyone the same level of the lowest member. -
03-20-2018, 04:22 AMDerio
There does need to be one but there has to be a reason for 1. After you get to lvl 4 or 5 its hop aboard the NM train and ride all the way to lvl 20.
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03-20-2018, 04:41 AMOriens
Yes, please!
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03-20-2018, 04:53 AMReynhartYes, all the party enter at the lowest level so that you can find target that won't penalize anyone...almost like :Quote:
Originally Posted by Vstarstruck
- You make a partyQuote:
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- You leave the "undersized" unchecked before enteringQuote:
Originally Posted by Vstarstruck
- It makes everyone the same elevel as the lowest member when enteringQuote:
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03-20-2018, 05:38 AMVstarstruckum you are making it more complex then it needs to be. I do not think the game will have an easy time level syncing people from different servers entering this as a cross world pf... dont you actually have to be in the same zone anyway? to enter? so your idea would not work anyway off that. (plus having to do that is massively inconvenient to the player)Quote:
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All you do is make it exactly like ffxi, after you make a party you hit that button and people are level synced. -
03-20-2018, 05:56 AMReynhartLast time I checked, the game has no problem applying undersized and/or minimul ilvl to cross-world parties. As for the same zone, I don't know, but if that was a problem, it means that cross-world parties are forbidden right now for entering Eureka ?Quote:
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03-20-2018, 06:16 AMKrojackCorrect me if I'm wrong but if a high level is in a group with low level, the high level will not get lockboxes from the fates.Quote:
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03-20-2018, 06:21 AMTaleraRistain
You still get lockboxes from what I saw. I was 17 with like a 7 in the party. Whether you get just xp or boxes is dependent on the FATE ranking you get.
As for the OP, god yes. I'm 18 and my friend just started last night and I couldn't join him. Eureka badly needs a way to have the party either sync to the same level or allow higher members to sync to the level of another party member. -
03-21-2018, 04:23 AMCabalabob
Thinking about it, why not just let us gain exp while in a party regardless of level? It’s not like this is ffxi where when you claim a mob no one else can touch it. It’s stupid that a level 18 outside my party can help kill a monster and I get exp, but if they’re in my party I don’t. Without the competitive element to monster claiming it just seems arbitrary.
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03-21-2018, 06:09 AMkykmorphIf you're not in parties together, you only get a partial xp credit, depending on damage dealt (as far as I can tell). And I don't think it would be good if a level 20 could give full xp to a level 1 for murdering a ton of lower level mobs.Quote:
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Self promoting a related thread to this one here:
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03-21-2018, 06:16 AMTridusA level 20 getting XP for a level 1 is better than not being able to play with your friends when you can do so in all the other content in the game, though. This is a MMO, isn't it?Quote:
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03-21-2018, 06:21 AMVstarstruckWhat you are asking for is more complex then what this thread wants:Quote:
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https://youtu.be/kGvtpwwHoJo?t=616
thats all we are asking for, if SE can do your idea too thats fine but it is likely to be met with "server limitations" best to keep ideas simple. With all the delays I am shocked as heck it was not released with this feature made for a modern game when it was put in a ... 16 year old game? 10 years ago?
dammit, that is why I quit ffxi, those damn geo effects made me ill and made the game literally unplayable to me. funny how I forgot the reason in why I quit when I was basically praising ffxi a lot cuz people kept comparing it to diadem 3.0. I did kept asking myself why didn't I just stay in ffxi all this time and forgot the reason why I quit to begin with. -
03-21-2018, 06:30 AMRiyahArp
If it can be done, we probably won't see it till the next step of Eureka. I don't even think we will see their changes they mentioned in the big thread before it slows down and dies, if they still choose to do them. They can't really push these kinds of things to live and expect us to test them; they can't fix anything but the most critical of vulnerabilities in a timely fashion.
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03-21-2018, 07:09 AMSylvina
This is actually a good idea, would make high level players want to help the low level ones more and hence extend the life of Eureka.
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03-21-2018, 07:14 AMMiles_Maelstrom
No the place just needs to not penalize based on level. The content is not fun enough to warrant limiting because "power leveling" would ruin the "fun experience" of leveling.
Enemies in there should always give a static value of experience regardless of level. And that experience should be divided among the group equally regardless of level. -
03-21-2018, 07:15 AMSylvinaHow exactly would level sync hurt though? it's a good feature.Quote:
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03-21-2018, 08:39 AMkykmorphI respect that not everyone found the content fun, but I disagree with you here. The way the power balancing is in there, at level 20, I can hit lower level mobs for upwards of 100k damage. If a low level could get full xp from joining me like that, there'd be no point in doing any other method of leveling than power leveling.Quote:
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Though you do make me consider something else. I'd actually like them to release the rules on what the particular xp penalties are, for mob discrapency and party level discrepancy and such.