New Class idea [Geometrician]

So I’ve struggled with new healer concepts for a while now. Not just conceptually, as none have really sat well with me from a design standpoint or how they would integrate with existing lore, but also in terms of balance.

The current healers are so well balanced it seems tricky to insert anything else in there. You have the WHM’s pure healing potency and HoT’s, SCH reactionary utility and shields, and the AST jack-of-all-trades model that can replace either of the other two, with additional buffs and support. Basically giving any combo of two out of the three almost perfect synergy.

Getting another job to work in that set up, and be unique, would be very tricky, and would only work if it followed the same formula of AST by being able to replace either of the other three in a 2-healer party. Basically this means it would require three different stances or methods.

This train of thought led me back to an early concept I had, of a reinterpretation of the Tactics job Calculator/Arithmetician, but based around Trigonometry. Utilising three different stances or healing modes, in order to use placement oriented abilities, aka geometry.

The ‘Geo’ part didn’t escape me either, with another often suggested job being the ‘Geomancer’ I thought this could perhaps be incorporated in there somewhere. Of course, you’re utilising subterranean aethercurrents or ‘Geoaetherics’ and redirecting them using trigonometry to utilise them to their full potential. This could be implemented as the aspects of the geoaetherics influencing the abilities, and providing unique effects based on terrain.


Ultimately, this job would be Calculator + Geomancer, repurposed as a healer, while avoiding the already established lore around Geomancy.
It would function similarly to a AST + MCH, with reduced potencies but higher burst healing/damage and some buffing abilities.

It’s animations would include a lot of floating equations and ley-line type effects featuring geometric triangles and arches.
It's weapons would be a Pair of Compasses, as in; a navigational compass for detecting geoaetheric currents in one hand, and a pair of compasses for mapping targets in the other.


So what’s the lore?

Aethercurrents in the air are tricky to measure and control, doing so typically requires more mystic means, schools of magic, astromancy, etc. Aether in solid matter however is much easier to handle, not only can it be transported in crystals, but even non-crystals can have their aether content and any currents running through them more accurately measured with non-mystical means, as the physical structure actually influences and directs the aether.

Thus geoaetheric currents are, or were, a focus of study by the Garleans in their early development of magitek. Although the field hadn’t progressed much, due to its limited capacity to be weaponised compared to other aether sources, it still continued to be studied by less military minded practitioners.

To this end, you would be introduced to Geoaetherics via a Garlean group sympathetic to the Eorzean resistance.


It’s main unique feature would be the placement of Aetherprobes. Similar in a way to MCH turrents, but for healing, they emit an AoE field with a certain effect that’s either a HoT, a Shield, or a buff, depending on your stance and the terrain.

Some of the descriptions may sound slightly math heavy and a little convoluted, but in practice you wouldn’t need to understand any of it to play the class.



Signature Abilities

Lv. 30 Aetherprobe
Place an aetherprobe in the ground, generating a 10y field that bestows the effect of the current Geometry stance. The Aetherprobe will last indefinitely unless HP depleted or replaced by another. Can be damaged by AoE’s or targeted by enemies.
30s cooldown.

Lv. 50 Aetherprobe II
Replaces Aetherprobe.
Place up to two aetherprobes in the ground, forming a 5y width corridor field between the two plus a 5y radius at each end.
20s cooldown
Vector: Level 55 trait. Enemies in the field are effected by the ‘Vector’ effect, receiving 60% more damage from your Axiom spells.

Lv. 60 Aetherprobe III
Replaces Aetherprobe II.
Place up to three aetherprobes in the ground, forming a triangular field between them. 10s cooldown.
The third Aetherprobe will always snap into place to form a right triangle, meaning there will be an arc in which the third one can be placed, therefore the placement of the first two Aetherprobes will form the hypotenuse and determine where the third one can go.
Cartesian: Level 66 trait. Enemies in the field are effected by the ‘Cartesian’ effect, receiving double damage from your Axiom spells.

Lv. 30 Retreive
Remove the 'oldest' Aetherprobe you placed.
For when you don't want to form a corridor, and just want a series of 10y circles, as your progress down a path/through a dungeon.


Three stances: Known as ‘Geometries’, like AST’s Sects, can only be changed when not in combat.

Lv. 30 Geometric Thesis – WHM’s HoT philosophy
Causes Aetherprobes to generate an 80 potency HoT field.
Can use the Cosecant and Cotangent abilities.

Lv. 35 Geometric Antithesis – SCH’s damage negating philosophy
Causes Aetherprobes to generate a 20% damage reduction shield. (does not stack with SCH shields)
Can use the Secant and Cotangent abilities.

Lv. 45 Geometric Synthesis – AST’s combination of the two with buffs.
Causes Aetherprobes to generate a ‘Terrain Aspect Bonus’ field while boosting own healing potency and spellspeed by 20%.
Can use the Secant and Cosecant abilities.


Stance related abilities

Lv. 64 Secant
Detonates all three aetherprobes in order to heal the party for 80 potency multiplied by the length of the shortest side (opposite) of the triangle plus a HoT. 120s cooldown. Resets your Aetherprobe III cooldown.
Maximum multiplier = 9, so you never technically need the shortest side of the triangle to be more than 9 yalms.

Lv. 66 Cosecant
Detonates all three aetherprobes in order to shield the party for 80 potency multiplied by the length of the medium side (adjacent) of the triangle. 120s cooldown. Resets your Aetherprobe III cooldown.
Maximum multiplier = 12, so you never technically need the medium side of the triangle to be more than 12 yalms.

Lv. 68 Cotangent
Detonates all three aetherprobes in order to heal the party for 80 potency multiplied by the length of the longest side (hypotenuse) of the triangle. 120s cooldown. Resets your Aetherprobe III cooldown.
Maximum multiplier = 15, so you never technically need the longest side of the triangle to be more than 15 yalms.


Terrain Aspect Bonuses: Similar to AST’s cards, but based on location so they’re entirely predictable and not under your control.
These can vary by location within dungeons but will never vary within a boss battle arena.
The gauge will display what bonus your current location provides.
The specific buffs are merely ideas, with enough differentiation from AST cards, but there might be better ideas out there.

Water: 40 potency HoT
Earth: Damage received -10% (does not stack with Bole)
Wind: Speed +10% (does not stack with Arrow)
Fire: Physical damage inflicted +10%
Lightning: Magical damage inflicted +10%
Ice: DHit Rate +10%


Lv. 32 Gaia
Bestow the effect the current Terrain Aspect Bonus to one target for 30s. 30s cooldown.

Lv. 50 Stratification
Tap into a deeper aethercurrent, unlocking a second Terrain Aspect Bonus to utilise in addition to the current one, combining two buffs at once when using either Gaia or Aetherprobes.
Secondary bonus is entirely random. Effect disappears after 60s or if you move to a different terrain area. 120s cooldown.

Lv. 69 Aspecification
Convert the second Stratification bonus into the same aspect as the Terrain Aspect Bonus, doubling the effect. 120s cooldown.


Basic spells and abilities

Damage

Lv. 1 Axiom
Deals 128 potency damage to target. GCD

Lv. 42 Axiom II
Replaces Axiom.
Deals 205 potency damage to target. GCD

Lv. 4 Negative Logarithm
Inflict a DoT that decreases over 30s. GCD
1st tick: 80 potency, 2nd: 65 potency, 52 potency, 42, 34, 27, 22, 17, 14, 11.

Lv. 28 Negative Logarithm II
Replaces Negative Logarithm.
Inflict a DoT that decreases over 30s. GCD
1st tick: 160 potency, 2nd: 128 potency, 102 potency, 82, 66, 52, 42, 34, 27, 22.

Lv. 34 Quake
Deals unaspected damage to a target and all enemies nearby it with a potency of 200 for the first enemy, 10% less for the second, 20% less for the third, 30% less for the fourth, 40% less for the fifth, and 50% less for all remaining enemies. GCD
Proc’s Aftershock, available for 12s.
Yes, basically a weaker Gravity, however it would be available at a lower level than Gravity, have Aftershock to bolster its damage at higher levels, and personally I'd like to see Gravity changed to have its potency scale with targets HP, e.g. 300 potency to all targets at 100% HP, 100 potency to all targets at less than 10% HP, and everything in between like 200 potency if at 50% HP, etc.

Lv. 56 Aftershock
Can only be used when proc’ed by Quake. Instant cast. 20s cooldown.
Deals unaspected damage to a target and all enemies nearby it with a potency of 100 for the first enemy, 10% less for the second, 20% less for the third, 30% less for the fourth, 40% less for the fifth, and 50% less for all remaining enemies. Also stuns all enemies for 2s.


Healing

Lv. 2 Congruence
Heals for 320 potency, GCD.

Lv. 38 Congruence II
Heals for 640 potency, GCD.

Lv. 10 Positive Logarithm
Bestow an AoE HoT that decreases over 30s. GCD
1st tick: 80 potency, 2nd: 65 potency, 52 potency, 42, 34, 27, 22, 17, 14, 11.

Lv. 42 Positive Logarithm II
Replaces Positive Logarithm.
Bestow an AoE HoT that decreases over 30s. GCD
1st tick: 160 potency, 2nd: 128 potency, 102 potency, 82, 66, 52, 42, 34, 27, 22.

Lv. 25 Natural Logarithm
Bestow a single target HoT that decreases over 30s. Instant, 120s cooldown.
1st tick: 610 potency, 2nd: 377 potency, 233, 144, 89, 55, 34, 21, 13, 8.

This front-loaded logarithmic healing meets halfway between a straight up heal and a HoT, with almost the same effect as a Diurnal Aspected Benefic.
Natural Logarithm would be similar to Essential Dignity as an emergency heal, being even more front-loaded.


Mitigation

Lv. 18 Coversine
Splits damage with target by percentage. Duration 6s, cooldown 30s.
e.g. if target takes damage equal to 20% of their HP, they only suffer half of that damage (10%) and you suffer damage equal to 10% of your HP. This is a net gain as a healer will have less HP than a Tank, so less damage will be taken overall. Not much mitigation in terms of net damage really, but when you consider you're basically providing the tank with a 50% shield it can be very potent when used correctly.

Lv. 54 Haversine
Splits damage target receives with three other party members by percentage. Duration 8s, cooldown 45s.
e.g. if target takes damage equal to 20% of their HP, they only suffer half of that damage (10%) and the three closest party members each suffer damage equal to 5% of their HP. Same effect as far as the tank is concerned, but you're sharing out 75% of the damage across three characters, so depending on HP values you could be taking more damage overall. This is the drawback to sharing it out more evenly, plus gives you an additional oGCD to weave.

Lv. 37 Phase Shift
Renders target impervious to any damage that would take target below 1HP for 3 seconds. 180s cooldown.

Functional analysis. (level 70)

Healing, damage and basic mitigation skills are pretty straightforward, and shouldn’t play much different to an Astrologian.
The signature abilities however take the AST’s stance dancing and buffing role in an entirely different direction.


Firstly, there’s the aetherprobe “rotation” if you can call it that.
With a 10s cooldown, you’ll only get your basic 10y radius out to start with, then 10s later you can place your second probe to create your corridor, then after 20s you can finally get your triangle down, with any luck as big as you can possibly make it, and with some foresight with the probes not within enemy AoE fields.
If your triangle is your priority, which it should be, then your radius and corridor will likely be in less than optimal places, so realistically you have at least 20s, plus positioning time, before you have a working field in place. Similarly you have a 20s+ downtime of HoT/Shield/Buffs should you lose your triangle to enemy destruction, or 30s+ if you detonate your triangle.
This is why the basic stances seem fairly OP for what they do (on par with WHM/SCH instead of being nerfed like AST) positioning them takes a fair deal of prep and forethought, not to mention they can draw aggro just like MCH Turrets and be destroyed, which could potentially undo all your prep.

Your stances would work similarly to AST, with you choosing one based on your co-healer.
WHM; you choose either Antithesis(shield) or Synthesis(buffs+speed)
SCH; you choose either Thesis(HoT) or Synthesis(buffs+speed)
AST; you choose either Thesis(HoT) or Antithesis(shield) (the AST will then coordinate as Diurnal or Nocturnal)
Another GEO; You coordinate with them.

Thesis: Not used when paired with WHM
Your fields generate a potent HoT, allowing you to focus on raw healing and mitigation.
When needed (a big attack in coming/has just hit/your probes are about to be destroyed) you can trigger a detonation ability.
Cosecant: Up to 960 potency damage shield. Use when paired with another GEO.
Cotangent: Up to 1200 potency raw heal. Use when paired with SCH, Noct-AST or another GEO.

Antithesis: Not used when paired with SCH or Noct-AST
Your fields grant a 20% shield, meaning you’ll want to focus on raw healing and HoTs.
Secant: Up to 720 potency raw heal plus a 80 potency HoT for 12s, total 1040 potency. Use when paired with another GEO.
Cotangent: Up to 1200 potency raw heal. Use when paired with Diurnal Ast or another GEO.
If you’re paired with a WHM, you likely won’t be needing to use a detonation, you’ll want to keep your shield up if you can.

Synthesis: Most versatile stance, works with anything, however the other two might be more suitable when paired with an AST.
Your fields will generate a buff, which you cannot control, and is only half as effective as an AST buff of a similar effect, although this can be doubled every other minute with Stratification/Aetherification. This means you’re not micromanaging buffs like Cards, but just throw it out and forget about it. However you’ll heal quicker and for more HP.
You’ll need to use all of your healing and mitigation skills to make up for a lack of constant HoT/Shield.
Secant: Up to 720 potency raw heal plus a 80 potency HoT for 12s, total 1040 potency. Use when paired with SCH, Noct-AST or another GEO.
Cosecant: Up to 960 potency damage shield. Use when paired with WHM, Diurnal-AST or another GEO.

Issues: Pros and Cons
This set up allows for a job that can be all healing philosophies at once, or focus on just one to make up for deficiencies in your co-healer. Potentially the most versatile healer job in the game.
It can have some of the highest healing potency in the game, however these are situational and come at a cost of your aetherprobe fields which provide your main background healing utility outside of your basic and fairly lacklustre basic healing skills.
It’s basic DPS is the lowest of the lot, however when utilising the Cartesian effect with all three probes out, it has the highest DPS with Axiom/II spam.
Because its big ticket skills are based on forming a right triangle, terrain can really screw you over, especially if you just can’t get into position, such as in fights like Ozma.
Utilising its big ticket abilities and highest DPS is therefore clunky and time consuming, and quite easy to screw up, especially if you’re on the move. Thus, why I described it as being similar to MCH.
When you do get everything just right, it’ll feel so rewarding, not just because you’re hitting the right skills at the right time, but by getting your positions correct, and coordinating with other healers/players.

You people must have a lot of free time to think about all this stuff or seriously thinking that SE wil pay any attention to any ideas posted here.

It's more about showcasing your talents at thinking outside the box, besides if SE reads these they may be inspired to make something similar, since these threads showcase what we as a playerbase would like.

That being said. I only glanced at your idea, since I am at work and can't go in depth. The idea seems nice and appears well thought out, but somewhat disjointed. Right now it reads like a rotation guide, where the skills are already established in the players mind. I would suggest reorganizing the skills into their natural progression, which would make it easier to understand the skills and what links with what.

I have a lot of time at work to think and type and not do much else. Besides, I love theorycrafting.
And yeah, id never expect SE to implement this in exactly this way, but the added detail helps to explain how it would work, much better than a vague job description would.

Personally I've always found the skill lists by level to be disjointed, as you're gaining odd skills incrementally, and it's hard to see how later skills interact with early skills.

This way you know what sort of skill you're looking at and how it works with the others.

Don't think of it as disjointed, which it isn't, think of it as learning how the skills you have work together for a given level. It's great explaining what each skill does and their overall interactions for later on, but if someone is only level 20, it help to see what is available at level 20 learning and knowing and eventually expanding upon those skills.

Also I am home now so I can really dig into your idea... MWHAHAHAHAHAHA... I promise I'll be gentile

I like the idea of a healer with persistent ground aoes, though the numbers may need some tweaking. It's possible I missed something in the description, but with AST stance it seems like you could just drop two probes behind the boss to form a horizontal line and have dps stack on it for buffs. Then drop a probe directly north or south of a probe for a free critlo before any raid buster goes out. The detonate would reset the probe CD and the party could just stack on that probe until another line can be created and the strategy just repeats. Also, are the probes similar to turrets in that they can be healed? Because being able to heal them would be extremely strong.

Those are just the numbers though. The mechanics and class theme are both pretty interesting.

Okay to start, I am not sure how attached you are to the name but it sorta looks like a mash-up of two words, and I know it is. I personally would suggest reworking it or making a new one that conveys the idea of the Job better; additionally, while it can be pronounced, it's not a "role-off-the-tongue" kinda name. Granted the same could be said of Astrologian, but that was/is an already established word with a minor ending change Astrolog/er Astrolog/ian. And since the end sound is the same syllable count the flow isn't interrupted. Some names I found/made would be, Mathematician, Trigonometrist, though the best name I found is Actuary, the job you created conveys what real life Actuaries do.

Second, While a compass is nice, I personally suggest using Measures, they are a very underutilized weapon/tool in the series that fits this theme very nicely

Third, make sure you look at each Job in the role you are trying to make/adjust and use the knowledge they show you. As the poster above stated your potencies are rather low. I know you said lower potency with a higher burst, but I think AST's launch showed us that doesn't work all that well.

Fourth, I see you are using Secant, Cosecant, Cotangent, terms used in trigonometry (which is why I suggested that name) but I personally would use the more common Sine, Cosine, and Tangent, mostly because as a whole people recognize them as math terms, do to how common they are.

Fifth, you have a lot of moves whose potencies decrease, why is that? if anything, for strong moves do the percentage thing SE does, as annoying as that is. You do this with Quake and Aftershock, which is great. Though the coloration between those two skills is off. It's not a bad idea, just the fluidity doesn't seem to be there. It seems like you wanna make it similar to Impact, which itself is an odd move, but single target and AoE are different beasts.

Sixth, I really do suggest adjusting the organization, not just to help the reader and make it visually appealing, but it helps you as well. It helps you visualize the flow of the job and where you might be missing something or created a hole you need to fix. Plus Traits? where are they? I only saw two listed.

Okay, I believe that is all I will say for now. I can see what you are trying to do and somewhat how you want to implement it. I have some thoughts on how to improve upon it, but I don't want it to appear like I am stepping on your toes. But I will say that you seem so interested in them being able to do what the other healers can that they don't seem to have their own identity. Yes AST can do HoTs like WHM and Shields like SCH, but they have their own unique thing with the cards. The Probes are a great idea, you wanna use the probes, that's a great way to give them individuality, build upon that. Maybe allow them to gain 3 different probes, like Alpha Probe, Beta Probe, Delta Probe. I would suggest thinking of them like the summons as far as level acquisition, though maybe a little more spaced out, but they should definitely all be available by 50.

Also GO MATH TERMS, lol

Thanks for the feedback.

I'll get around to reorganizing the order at some point.

The name: Yeah I was thinking it sounds a bit odd, but I'm kinda set on GEO as the abbreviation due to its reinterpretation of geomancy.
On second thought 'Geometer' is a more accepted term for someone who studies geometry. Or even 'Geometrist'.

I had considered measures for weapons, until I realised that AST starglobes use many of the classic FF measure names. Indeed most of the classic measure are called 'sextant's, which is a tool for navigating by the stars.

"Fifth, you have a lot of moves whose potencies decrease, why is that? if anything, for strong moves do the percentage thing SE does, as annoying as that is."

They're logarithmic, or more accurately, geometric sequences. (see what I did thar?)
Basically front-loaded HoT's, so while you're not getting the full heal instantly, you're also not waiting for the entire duration to get the most out of it.
Natural Logarithm deals 610 on the first tick, that's practically a mid-tier heal. The second tick takes that up to over 1000, and the third to 1200. That's more powerful than Essential Dignity, it just isn't quite as quick, but you still get that initial heal out instantly.
The other logarithms decrease less steeply so it's not such an extreme healing curve.
I don't know about you, but HoT's and DoT's bug me because although I know it makes sense to reapply them before they've finished, it just feels so wrong to do so before it's run its course. This way you're actually gaining potency by reapplying the HoT/DoT.
I could have just made them percentages... but then they wouldn't be logarithms or geometric sequences, and you know... maths.

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Originally Posted by Shihen

I like the idea of a healer with persistent ground aoes, though the numbers may need some tweaking. It's possible I missed something in the description, but with AST stance it seems like you could just drop two probes behind the boss to form a horizontal line and have dps stack on it for buffs. Then drop a probe directly north or south of a probe for a free critlo before any raid buster goes out. The detonate would reset the probe CD and the party could just stack on that probe until another line can be created and the strategy just repeats. Also, are the probes similar to turrets in that they can be healed? Because being able to heal them would be extremely strong.

Those are just the numbers though. The mechanics and class theme are both pretty interesting.

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Sorry, firstly by 'resets aetherprobe cooldown' I meant it triggers the cooldown, so that you can't just throw out another probe.
E.g. Set probe A > 10s > set probe B > 10s > probe C > detonate > 10s > reset probe A, etc.
And of course the detonations are on 2 minute cooldowns themselves.

And yeah, Cosecant would basically be an Adloquium and would be used to the same effect, but it's not quite as powerful or free, cnsidering you lose any aetherprobe field for 10s.

Theoretically you could position them like you said, however that would rely on:
The boss being stationary.
The party not needing to move too much.
A large and consistent enough battlefield to do so.

This simply wouldn't be possible in a lot of fights, such as Midgardsormr, Ozma and Shinryu.

You'd be limited by terrain, like a Geomancer...

I think you got a good idea with the aetherprobes and some actions, but because you try to copycat the 3 other jobs (as SE did with AST copycat WHM and SCH), the identity of Geometrician is weak or even weird. You need to get rid of your stances and define totally new ones, or just don’t. I will try to expose my changes after for that.

What is bad in your actions & traits ?

- Vector and Cartesian are too strong. Your Axiom II would doing 320 / 410 damages.
- Regen potency total = 1050 ; Natural Logarithm total potency = 1584 (+50% Regen). But the worst is 9 sec of your HoT is better than the 21 sec Regen.
- Same for the AOE HoT Positive Logarithm.
- Total potency of Negative Logarithm is 715. 472 potency in 12 seconds, and then 233 potency for the 18 seconds left. Do you see the problem ? 4 ticks, is superior to Axiom II, in 12 sec, but the 6 other are doing 50% less damages. So, you will need to refresh your DoT every 12 sec. The design of this skill is not good.
- As I said before, the problem is your stances. You have either HoT, either Shield or Buffs. You need to choose. A job which can do anything, it’s not good (I think) even, if you can’t switch stance.
- Not a fan of the elements buffs which can’t stack with cards. Nonsense, or maybe really it’s a copycat ? They are not innovatives.
- 2 Spells of AST is affected by it’s stances : HoT or Shields. The problems, is Geometrician has already powerful HoT independant of your stances. So, why add again an Hot effect with Geometric Thesis ?
- Each stance have access to 2 powerful abilities (even if it’s 120 sec cd): big heal + HoT (again ? but for Antithesis and Synthesis which means 2 manners of heal via HoT for each stance, so no differentiation), Big Shield (I don’t want to calculate the potency, but - - I’am sure Cosecant & Addlo deployment, one minute apart, it’s pretty OP). Maybe I would say Ok, but nope because of the reset of Aetherprob III cooldown or maybe your Secant, Cosecant and Cotangent should share the same recast time.
- Dps part not engaging except for Quake and Aftershock.


What is good ?

- I said it at the beginning, aetherprobes are interesting. You can place them on the fields and do stuffs but then you try to implement WHM & SCH & AST in it. The result is not convincing. Keep one part, or even create something new.
- I don’t like the decreased DoT and HoT, but the opposite would be immediately more interesting (and would correct your problems). Maybe do the same with Quake and After Shoke. Begin with 150 potency, and then increase by 10% for the 2nd, 20% for the 3rd,..., up to 50% for the others.
- Coversine and Haversine are nice but maybe need some tweaks.
- I’am ok with Gaia, Stratification and Aspecification. With that, I think Terrain Aspect Bonuses is what you should keep, but change the different buffs. (3 buffs/support + 3 debuff/damage ?).


Some questions :

- With aetheprobes III, do you place aertherprobes one by one, or it’s the 3 together automatically ? I don’t understand well this part.
- For Geometric Antithesis, when you say “generate a 20% shield”, it’s one time or every X sec as HoT ?
- Have you some instant spells ?


My final thought :

For me, I would remove your 3 stances but keep the Terrain Aspect Bonuses. I would keep the idea of Cosecant and Cotangent (two powerful group AOE) with changes to make them more unique. Change Positive Logarithm to be a kind of Medica, along PL II which is the Medica II. I would do something about the dps with aetherprobes or with terrain aspect bonuses to be more engaging.

A problem I notice here is your job is falling into the same trap HW Ast fell into and is still climbing out of. One job cannot realistically be a Swiss Army knife and expect to either be too strong or too weak. Ast has been on both sides of this spectrum (remember 10% AoE balance) You job needs to pick a stance regen or shielder, much like Ast needs to do come 5.0. Assume that the devs strip Astro of one of its stances and design 2 possible stance from that. But trying to be all 3 healers in one when one of those 3 healers is already 2 in one sounds absolutely absurd

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A problem I notice here is your job is falling into the same HW Ast fell into and is still climbing out of. One job cannot realistically be a Swiss Army knife and expect to either be too strong or too weak. Ast has been on both sides of this spectrum (remember 10% AoE balance) You job needs to pick a stance regen or shielder, much like Ast needs to do come 5.0. Assume that the devs strip Astro of one of its stances and design 2 possible stance from that. But trying to be all 3 healers in one when one of those 3 headset is already 2 in one sounds absolutely absurd

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Couldn't disagree more about AST. It only works because it can be either HoT or shields.
Because of the dual healer mechanism of full parties, fixing it to either of the stances would make it a 50/50 chance of being utterly useless, not to mention, being able to do either as the situation calls is what makes AST so much fun to play.

If AST was fixed to nocturnal, then SCH/AST would be ineffective as their shields don't stack, in fact the AST shields could overwrite the SCH superior shields and be more detrimental than just having a single SCH.

If AST was fixed to diurnal, then WHM/AST would just be a poorer version of WHM/WHM.

If AST had its priorities shifted more to its card buffs over either of its stances so that it still had something to give in either situation, then it would fail solo.

If any of these were done, then AST/AST would be redundant.

If they made this change to AST in 5.0 you've suggested, then I don't think I'd enjoy playing as ANY healer.


This is why this job needs to be able to cover three different modes, it needs to be able to synergise with any of the other three healers in a two-healer set up.
It could work with just two stances like AST, but then it literally would just be an AST clone.
And I suppose it could be done as a pure-heal healer, with no HoT or Mitigation, but with healing potencies and more instant heals than any of the other healers...


What could potentially be done though, is instead of having 'stances', simply make up these healing philosophies in cooldown skills. So that you can't replace a WHM/SCH, but can still replicate their abilities in certain situations. So that stances could be gone, but keep the Secant/Cosecant/Cotangent abilities.

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You make a good point about the front loaded HoT/DoT’s forcing you to reapply after 12s.
In my effort to make “reapplying HoT/DoT’s” more appealing, I’ve gone too far the other way.
And reversing them to make them start small and grow, would be functionally more interesting, and instead of making the reapplication more appealing, it would make it mandatory to leave them to their set duration. Although the duration would have to be significantly reduced, to no more than 12s or it’d be unreliable.
In that case, there would need to be more focus on direct healing and mitigation, because there would be no benefit to reapplying HoT/DoTs.

I think I would reverse and rejig the Pos/Neg. Logs, but keep Natural Logarithm the same, as it’s a cooldown and therefore cannot be reapplied, and would serve as an emergency heal.
Pos.Log could be 12s, and Pos.Log II could be 9s with higher potencies.


How Aetherprobes would work.
You place your first Aetherprobe down, just like a turret with ground targeting.
10s later you can use the skill again to place down a second Aetherprobe, manually. This gives you a manually placed corridor, with a length you have manually defined.
The third Aetherprobe can then only be place on a circle, of which your set corridor forms the diameter. The ground targeting reticule would snap into place on this circle allowing you to place it anywhere on that circle and form a right triangle, where your initial corridor becomes the hypotenuse.

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/pwc02.jpg
In this diagram, you’d place A and B first to define the corridor, in either order, then your third would be C and form the triangle.

How about something like this:

No stances.
1 Aetherprobe creates a 10y radial 80 potency HoT field.
2 Aetherprobes create a corridor with a 20% damage reduction field.
3 Aetherprobes form a triangle with Terrain Aspect Bonus and healing potency increase, and allows you to trigger the detonation abilities.

You can therefore tailor your ‘stance’ by placing the aetherprobes, but it will not be a permanent ‘stance’ as your goal would still be your terrain bonus and/or a detonation.
E.g. If you require the shield over the buffs, then you hold off on your third aetherprobe, or use Retrieve to remove one, etc.
This gives it cost-benefit mechanism, and is centred around a prep ‘rotation’ kinda like a MCH, but more adjustable.

You still have your GCDs and unique HoT or Mitigation abilities, so that if you don’t have the field you need up you have something to make do with until you’ve set it up.

The concept is therefore more based around your environment dictating your skills.
While terrain decides your buffs, your use of that terrain (aetherprobes) decides your ‘stance’, in addition to you creating a new ‘terrain’ (fields) for party members to use.
Ergo, it’s ALL terrain manipulation in one form or another, with no conventional ‘stances’, more fitting of a Geomancer class in a mathematician skin.

Obviously the Terrain Aspect Bonus would require them to go back through all maps and either set a terrain type to that entire map, or actually map out new zones within those maps.
So by holding off until 3 aetherprobes are available, at level 60, this excludes all pre-60 dungeons from that requirement.
Adjust Gaia/Stratification to post-60 too.
This would also mimic AST’s access to Diurnal and Nocturnal at varying levels, with only 1 probe (HoT) being available first, then 2 probes (shield) later.

Overall, this still allows you to 'fill in the gaps' left by your co-healer without clashing, but doesn't mimic AST's stances or add in three stances to juggle.


As for the Vector/Cartesian traits.
Instead of simply increasing Axiom skills by so much, the Vector/Cartesian trait could cause the ticks of Logarithms to proc an Enhanced Axiom/Congruence, kinda like BLM’s Thundercloud, THEN increase potencies by 50%/100%.

Vector: (2 probes)
Causes enemies within the field inflicted by Negative Logarithm to provide a 10% chance to proc ‘Enhanced Axiom’ increasing potency of the next Axiom spell by 50%.
Causes party members within the field inflicted by Positive Logarithm to provide a 5% chance to proc ‘Enhanced Congruence’ increasing potency of the next Congruence spell by 50%.

Cartesian: (3 probes)
Causes enemies within the field inflicted by Negative Logarithm to provide a 6% chance to proc ‘Enhanced Axiom’ increasing potency of the next Axiom spell by 100%.
Causes party members within the field inflicted by Positive Logarithm to provide a 3% chance to proc ‘Enhanced Congruence’ increasing potency of the next Congruence spell by 100%.

Plus…
Triangulation:
Using an ‘Enhanced Axiom’ on a target outside of the field resets the cooldown on Aftershock.
Using an ‘Enhanced Congruence’ on a target outside of the field resets the cooldown on Natural Logarithm.

This provides you with a pseudo combo rotation (e.g. Neg.Log>Enhanced Axiom>Reset Aftershock, or Pos.Log>Enhanced Congruence>Reset Nat.Log) which is no more powerful than the kind of crit/mp-free procs that the other healers get but is reliant on and has different effects based on, you guessed it, position (whether or not targets are in or out of the aetherprobe field)
In any of these cases, if the target moves into or out of the field, then the effect stops.
E.g. if a target within the field has Neg.Log, then moves out of the field, further ticks will not be able to proc Vector/Cartesian.
and if a target outside of the field moves into the field as you're casting Enhanced Axiom, it will not reset the cooldown on Aftershock.

Astrologian has many problems because of it's ability to fit in the slot of both healers, mainly that it's raw utility in it's cards circumvent the fact that the other healers are more efficient at either healing or shielding. Since there are 3, having the 3 healers balanced around 1 being able to shield and the other being able to regen while one can do both makes sense. However problems will arise unless every healer gets the ability to regen or shield or you're going to see ast as that puzzle piece that fits into every comp, or you'll have every NEW healer nearly replicate AST as far as having a watered down version of whm and sch's core kit. Thing is, they already did this with AST.

this would be like making a physical version of red mage and calling it gunblade job. I would rather shields be nerfed to allow for stacking or adjusted in some way, then to see ast continue to fit in the puzzle piece place that it does right now.

Not to be rude but as both me and Caeseisa noted, your proposal is literally a hybrid of a Hybrid and i don't think making a hybrid of 3 jobs 1 of which is already a hybrid is smart job design. if your healer focused more on the concept of AoE, shields in the same vain of sacred soil or regens like asylum, you'd have a unique job idea. AoE domes based effects that can do either shields or regens but not both allow for more diversity while not running into the issue you mentioned with over lapping shields. Sacred soil and Collective unconsious can stack together. you could also have an AoE that causes buffs in the same vain of ley lines but for the raid.

"Astrologian has many problems because of it's ability to fit in the slot of both healers"
AST would have many more problems if it couldn't.
This ability is a strength not a detriment, and is exactly why the current healers are so well balanced.
Can you point out these "problems" to me?

"AoE domes based effects that can do either shields or regens but not both allow for more diversity while not running into the issue you mentioned with over lapping shields. Sacred soil and Collective unconsious can stack together."
But we already have this issue with SCH/SCH or SCH/Noct-AST. This is WHY AST has two stances.

Not to be rude... but I've already conceded that the three-stance idea is flawed and offered alternative suggestions.
Including what you've just mentioned, so...

Ok, I’ve sorted out a new build for this.

Settled on ‘Geometrist’ as the title and GEO as the abbreviation.
Re-ordered and releveled some abilities.
Removed the stances entirely, but still kept the multiple-identity in the abilities.

Basically, while WHM is HoT and SCH is mitigation, AST can be both depending on stance, and GEO can be both depending on abilities used.
AST uses its stances as a baseline, then its main focus is on managing card buffs.
GEO’s main focus is on its Aetherprobes, and managing them dictates your “stance” so to speak, while its buffs come later as an afterthought.



Lv. 1 Axiom
Deals 128 potency damage to target. GCD. Costs MP.

Lv. 2 Congruence
Heals for 320 potency, GCD. Costs MP.

Lv. 4 Negative Logarithm
Inflict a DoT that increases over 18s. GCD. Costs MP.
Initial Hit: 2 potency, Subsequent Ticks: 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, Total: 252 potency.

Lv. 10 Positive Logarithm
Bestow an AoE HoT that increases over 12s. GCD. Costs MP.
Initial Hit: 3 potency, Subsequent Ticks: 9, 27, 81, 243, Total: 363 potency.

Lv. 15 Coversine
Splits damage with target by percentage. Duration 6s, cooldown 30s. Costs MP.
Effect ends prematurely if you move.
e.g. if target takes damage equal to 20% of their HP, they only suffer half of that damage (10%) and 3s later you suffer damage equal to 10% of your HP. This is a net gain as a healer will have less HP than a Tank, so less damage will be taken overall. Not much mitigation in terms of net damage really, but when you consider you're basically providing the tank with a 50% shield it can be very potent when used correctly.
Sort of an inverse of AST’s Synastry as mitigation instead of bonus healing.

Lv. 17 Reverse
Revives target to a weakened state. GCD. Costs MP.

-First dungeons begin-

Lv. 20 Natural Logarithm
Bestow a single target HoT that decreases over 15s. Instant, 120s cooldown. Costs MP.
Initial Hit: 729 potency, Subsequent Ticks: 243, 81, 27, 9, 3, Total: 1092 potency.
Similar to Essential Dignity as an emergency heal, but as a front-loaded HoT.

Lv. 25 Negative Logarithm II
Replaces Negative Logarithm.
Inflict a DoT that increases over 12s. GCD. Costs MP.
Initial Hit: 3 potency, Subsequent Ticks: 9, 27, 81, 243, Total: 363 potency.

Lv. 30 Aetherprobe
Place an Aetherprobe in the ground, generating a 10y field that bestows a 40 potency HoT.
The Aetherprobe will last indefinitely unless HP depleted or replaced by another. Can be damaged by AoE’s or targeted by enemies.
30s cooldown. Costs TP.

Lv. 30 Retrieve
Remove the 'oldest' Aetherprobe you placed. Costs TP.
For when you don't want to form a corridor, and just want a series of 10y circles, as your progress down a path/through a dungeon.

Lv. 35 Quake
Deals unaspected damage to a target and all enemies nearby it with a potency of 200 for the first enemy, 10% less for the second, 20% less for the third, 30% less for the fourth, 40% less for the fifth, and 50% less for all remaining enemies. GCD. Costs MP.
Proc’s Aftershock, available for 12s.
Yes, basically a weaker Gravity, however it would be available at a lower level than Gravity, have Aftershock to bolster its damage at higher levels, and personally I'd like to see Gravity changed to have its potency scale with targets HP, e.g. 300 potency to all targets at 100% HP, 100 potency to all targets at less than 10% HP, and everything in between like 200 potency if at 50% HP, etc.

Lv. 38 Congruence II
Heals for 640 potency, GCD. Costs MP.

Lv. 40 Positive Logarithm II
Replaces Positive Logarithm.
Bestow an AoE HoT that increases over 9s. GCD. Costs MP.
Initial Hit: 5 potency, Subsequent Ticks: 25, 125, 625, Total: 780 potency.

Lv. 42 Axiom II
Replaces Axiom.
Deals 205 potency damage to target. GCD. Costs MP.

Lv. 48 Haversine
Splits damage target receives with three other party members by percentage. Duration 8s, cooldown 45s. Costs MP.
Effect ends prematurely if you move.
e.g. if target takes damage equal to 20% of their HP, they only suffer half of that damage (10%) and 3s later the three closest party members each suffer damage equal to 5% of their HP. Same effect as far as the tank is concerned, but you're sharing out 75% of the damage across three characters, so depending on HP values you could be taking more damage overall. This is the drawback to sharing it out more evenly, but gives you an additional oGCD to weave.

Lv. 50 Aetherprobe II
Replaces Aetherprobe.
Place up to two Aetherprobes in the ground.
One Aetherprobe maintains the effect of Aetherprobe
Two Aetherbrobes form a 5y width corridor field between the two plus a 5y radius at each end, with a 10% Damage Reduction buff.
20s cooldown. Costs TP.

-ARR cut off-

Lv. 52 Integration
Can only be used when standing within the Aetherprobe field, cooldown 60s. Costs TP.
For 9s any Congruence spells you cast have their MP reduced by 60%

Vector: Level 54 trait.
Enemies in the dual-probe aetheric field are effected by the ‘Vector’ effect, giving each tick of Negative Logarithm a 10% of triggering the Enhanced Axiom effect.
Party members in the field are effected by the ‘Vector’ effect, giving each tick of Positive Logarithm a 5% of triggering the Enhanced Congruence effect.
Enhanced Axiom and Enhanced Congruence cause the next spell of their respective type to deal/heal for 60% more damage/HP.

Lv. 56 Aftershock
Can only be used when proc’ed by Quake. Instant cast. 20s cooldown. Costs MP.
Deals unaspected damage to a target and all enemies nearby it with a potency of 100 for the first enemy, 10% less for the second, 20% less for the third, 30% less for the fourth, 40% less for the fifth, and 50% less for all remaining enemies. Also stuns all enemies for 2s.

Lv. 58 Phase Shift
Renders target impervious to any damage that would take target below 1HP for 3 seconds. 180s cooldown. Costs MP.
Effect ends prematurely if you move.

Lv. 60 Aetherprobe III
Replaces Aetherprobe II.
Place up to three Aetherprobes in the ground.
One Aetherprobe maintains the effect of Aetherprobe
Two Aetherbrobes maintains the effect of Aetherprobe II
Three Aetherprobes form a triangular field between them that bestows a 10% Terrain Aspect Bonus to all party members and increases your healing potency by 20%.
10s cooldown. Costs TP.
The third Aetherprobe will always snap into place to form a right triangle, meaning there will be an arc in which the third one can be placed, therefore the placement of the first two Aetherprobes will form the hypotenuse (longest side of the triangle) and determine where the third one can go.

-HW cut off-

Lv. 62 Gaia
Bestow a 10% effect of the current Terrain Aspect Bonus to one target for 10s. 30s cooldown. Costs TP.

Lv. 62 Apeiroga
Detonates all three aetherprobes to deal damage to all enemies in range with a potency that scales with the number of enemies currently within the field.
Base 100 potency, each enemy grants 50 potency to the attack.
Additional unique effects require you to be standing by a certain probe.
120s cooldown. Costs MP. Triggers your Aetherprobe III cooldown.

Lv. 64 Apeirogonal Sine
Replaces Apeiroga when standing within 5y of the Opposite-Hypotenuse angle probe. (probably the second one placed)
Detonating deals the damage of Apeirogon and shields the party for 60% of their max HP.
120s cooldown. Costs MP. Triggers your Aetherprobe III cooldown.

Lv. 66 Apeirogonal Cosine
Replaces Apeiroga when standing within 5y of the Adjacent-Hypotenuse angle probe. (probably the first one placed)
Detonating deals the damage of Apeirogon and bestows a HoT on the party for a total of 80% of their max HP over 18s.
120s cooldown. Costs MP. Triggers your Aetherprobe III cooldown.

Cartesian: Level 66 trait.
Enemies in the triple-probe aetheric field are effected by the ‘Cartesian’ effect, giving each tick of Negative Logarithm a 6% of triggering the Enhanced Axiom effect.
Party members in the field are effected by the ‘Cartesian’ effect, giving each tick of Positive Logarithm a 3% of triggering the Enhanced Congruence effect.
Enhanced Axiom and Enhanced Congruence cause the next spell of their respective type to deal/heal for 100% more damage/HP.

Lv. 68 Apeirogonal Tangent
Replaces Apeiroga when standing within 5y of the Opposite-Adjacent angle probe. (the last probe you placed)
Detonating deals the damage of Apeirogon and heals the party for 75% of their max HP.
120s cooldown. Costs MP. Triggers your Aetherprobe III cooldown.

Lv. 70 Stratification
Tap into a deeper aethercurrent, unlocking a second 5% Terrain Aspect Bonus to utilise in addition to the current one, combining two buffs at once when using either Gaia or Aetherprobe III.
Secondary bonus is entirely random. Effect disappears after 20s or if you move to a different terrain area. 120s cooldown. Costs TP.

-SB cut off-

Lv. 72 Escarpment
Convert the Stratification bonus into the same aspect as the Terrain Aspect Bonus, making it a total 15% effect. 120s cooldown. Costs TP.

Lv. 76 Slide Rule
Warp to an Aetherprobe, defaults to closest and can then be reused to cycle through probes. 3s cooldown. Costs TP.
Basically Aetherial Manipulation using probes instead of party members.

Lv. 80 Faultline
Primes current spot for an Earthquake. 10y ground targeted AoE. Duration 6s. Cooldown 180s. Costs TP.
Any Quake or Aftershock spells you cast on this spot will deal an additional 100 potency base damage and heal any party members in range for 50% of the damage inflicted.



Terrain Aspect Bonuses: Similar to AST’s cards, but based on location so they’re entirely predictable and not under your control.
These can vary by location within dungeons but will never vary within a boss battle arena.
The gauge will display what bonus your current location provides.
The specific buffs are merely ideas, there might be better ideas out there.

Fire: Physical Damage Up
Lighting: Magic Damage Up
Wind: Skill Speed Up
Ice: Spell Speed Up
Water: Healing Up (like Convalescence)
Earth: Damage Received Down (like Bole)

I thought these buffs would be different enough from AST cards that they wouldn’t feel too similar, and in addition they’re a little less versatile with speed and damage buffs being split between damage types.
These ‘pairs’ as such would typically be seen together in the same dungeon, such as one dungeon alternating between Wind and Ice (say Snowcloak if that were to have it)
So Fire/Lightning would be damage up, Wind/Ice would be speed up, and Water/Earth is survivability up, or taking the load off of you the healer.


Job Gauges: Two parts, both of which display at level 60.
Terrain Gauge: Simply an elemental symbol representing the Terrain Aspect Bonus, with a second slot under it for the second bonus via Stratification. The simple form would be two slots side by side, the first showing TAB and the second showing Stratification bonus
Geometry Gauge: Three slots laid out in a right triangle, and at each corner are the SIN, COS and TAN symbols. When you are standing within range of an Aetherprobe, this symbol along with the two sides of the triangle that form that angle light up, Indicating which Apeirogonal is available.
Simple form is one slot that will display either SIN, COS or TAN.

Another thing I should point out with the viability of aetherprobe fields.

Once you have your first triangle set up, if you lose probes, you either need to start the process over (30s or more until you get another triangle) or your triangles will get progressively smaller.

If you first triangle has lengths of 9, 12 and 15y, the side between probes A and B (hypotenuse) will be 15y.
You lose probe A, now you're left with a 12y corridor between probes B and C, your new hypotenuse when placing a third one as probe D, which will result in a triangle of something like 8, 9 and 12y.

You could preserve the size of your triangles by making long, thin ones, where the remaining side is still almost as long as the hypotenuse, however doing so will cost you field area.
Just another conscious choice you have to make when playing, and why the Aetherprobe mechanic is so hands on.

Okay, I'll read this carefully when I can, just glancing at it at the moment. But I have a very important question... Where is your raise skill?

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Okay, I'll read this carefully when I can, just glancing at it at the moment. But I have a very important question... Where is your raise skill?

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Imagine overlooking something so important... >_>


Ok, reposted due to new page:



Ok, I’ve sorted out a new build for this.

Settled on ‘Geometrist’ as the title and GEO as the abbreviation.
Re-ordered and releveled some abilities.
Removed the stances entirely, but still kept the multiple-identity in the abilities.

Basically, while WHM is HoT and SCH is mitigation, AST can be both depending on stance, and GEO can be both depending on abilities used.
AST uses its stances as a baseline, then its main focus is on managing card buffs.
GEO’s main focus is on its Aetherprobes, and managing them dictates your “stance” so to speak, while its buffs come later as an afterthought.



Lv. 1 Axiom
Deals 128 potency damage to target. GCD. Costs MP.

Lv. 2 Congruence
Heals for 320 potency, GCD. Costs MP.

Lv. 4 Negative Logarithm
Inflict a DoT that increases over 18s. GCD. Costs MP.
Initial Hit: 2 potency, Subsequent Ticks: 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, Total: 252 potency.

Lv. 10 Positive Logarithm
Bestow an AoE HoT that increases over 12s. GCD. Costs MP.
Initial Hit: 3 potency, Subsequent Ticks: 9, 27, 81, 243, Total: 363 potency.

Lv. 15 Coversine
Splits damage with target by percentage. Duration 6s, cooldown 30s. Costs MP.
Effect ends prematurely if you move.
e.g. if target takes damage equal to 20% of their HP, they only suffer half of that damage (10%) and 3s later you suffer damage equal to 10% of your HP. This is a net gain as a healer will have less HP than a Tank, so less damage will be taken overall. Not much mitigation in terms of net damage really, but when you consider you're basically providing the tank with a 50% shield it can be very potent when used correctly.
Sort of an inverse of AST’s Synastry as mitigation instead of bonus healing.

-First dungeons begin-

Lv. 17 Reverse
Revives target to a weakened state. GCD. Costs MP.

Lv. 20 Natural Logarithm
Bestow a single target HoT that decreases over 15s. Instant, 120s cooldown. Costs MP.
Initial Hit: 729 potency, Subsequent Ticks: 243, 81, 27, 9, 3, Total: 1092 potency.
Similar to Essential Dignity as an emergency heal, but as a front-loaded HoT.

Lv. 25 Negative Logarithm II
Replaces Negative Logarithm.
Inflict a DoT that increases over 12s. GCD. Costs MP.
Initial Hit: 3 potency, Subsequent Ticks: 9, 27, 81, 243, Total: 363 potency.

Lv. 30 Aetherprobe
Place an Aetherprobe in the ground, generating a 10y field that bestows a 40 potency HoT.
The Aetherprobe will last indefinitely unless HP depleted or replaced by another. Can be damaged by AoE’s or targeted by enemies.
30s cooldown. Costs TP.

Lv. 30 Retrieve
Remove the 'oldest' Aetherprobe you placed. Costs TP.
For when you don't want to form a corridor, and just want a series of 10y circles, as your progress down a path/through a dungeon.

Lv. 35 Quake
Deals unaspected damage to a target and all enemies nearby it with a potency of 200 for the first enemy, 10% less for the second, 20% less for the third, 30% less for the fourth, 40% less for the fifth, and 50% less for all remaining enemies. GCD. Costs MP.
Proc’s Aftershock, available for 12s.
Yes, basically a weaker Gravity, however it would be available at a lower level than Gravity, have Aftershock to bolster its damage at higher levels, and personally I'd like to see Gravity changed to have its potency scale with targets HP, e.g. 300 potency to all targets at 100% HP, 100 potency to all targets at less than 10% HP, and everything in between like 200 potency if at 50% HP, etc.

Lv. 38 Congruence II
Heals for 640 potency, GCD. Costs MP.

Lv. 40 Positive Logarithm II
Replaces Positive Logarithm.
Bestow an AoE HoT that increases over 9s. GCD. Costs MP.
Initial Hit: 5 potency, Subsequent Ticks: 25, 125, 625, Total: 780 potency.

Lv. 42 Axiom II
Replaces Axiom.
Deals 205 potency damage to target. GCD. Costs MP.

Lv. 48 Haversine
Splits damage target receives with three other party members by percentage. Duration 8s, cooldown 45s. Costs MP.
Effect ends prematurely if you move.
e.g. if target takes damage equal to 20% of their HP, they only suffer half of that damage (10%) and 3s later the three closest party members each suffer damage equal to 5% of their HP. Same effect as far as the tank is concerned, but you're sharing out 75% of the damage across three characters, so depending on HP values you could be taking more damage overall. This is the drawback to sharing it out more evenly, but gives you an additional oGCD to weave.

Lv. 50 Aetherprobe II
Replaces Aetherprobe.
Place up to two Aetherprobes in the ground.
One Aetherprobe maintains the effect of Aetherprobe
Two Aetherbrobes form a 5y width corridor field between the two plus a 5y radius at each end, with a 10% Damage Reduction buff.
20s cooldown. Costs TP.

-ARR cut off-

Lv. 52 Integration
Can only be used when standing within the Aetherprobe field, cooldown 60s. Costs TP.
For 9s any Congruence spells you cast have their MP reduced by 60%

Vector: Level 54 trait.
Enemies in the dual-probe aetheric field are effected by the ‘Vector’ effect, giving each tick of Negative Logarithm a 10% of triggering the Enhanced Axiom effect.
Party members in the field are effected by the ‘Vector’ effect, giving each tick of Positive Logarithm a 5% of triggering the Enhanced Congruence effect.
Enhanced Axiom and Enhanced Congruence cause the next spell of their respective type to deal/heal for 60% more damage/HP.

Lv. 56 Aftershock
Can only be used when proc’ed by Quake. Instant cast. 20s cooldown. Costs MP.
Deals unaspected damage to a target and all enemies nearby it with a potency of 100 for the first enemy, 10% less for the second, 20% less for the third, 30% less for the fourth, 40% less for the fifth, and 50% less for all remaining enemies. Also stuns all enemies for 2s.

Lv. 58 Phase Shift
Renders target impervious to any damage that would take target below 1HP for 3 seconds. 180s cooldown. Costs MP.
Effect ends prematurely if you move.

Lv. 60 Aetherprobe III
Replaces Aetherprobe II.
Place up to three Aetherprobes in the ground.
One Aetherprobe maintains the effect of Aetherprobe
Two Aetherbrobes maintains the effect of Aetherprobe II
Three Aetherprobes form a triangular field between them that bestows a 10% Terrain Aspect Bonus to all party members and increases your healing potency by 20%.
10s cooldown. Costs TP.
The third Aetherprobe will always snap into place to form a right triangle, meaning there will be an arc in which the third one can be placed, therefore the placement of the first two Aetherprobes will form the hypotenuse (longest side of the triangle) and determine where the third one can go.

-HW cut off-

Lv. 62 Gaia
Bestow a 10% effect of the current Terrain Aspect Bonus to one target for 10s. 30s cooldown. Costs TP.

Lv. 62 Apeiroga
Detonates all three aetherprobes to deal damage to all enemies in range with a potency that scales with the number of enemies currently within the field.
Base 100 potency, each enemy grants 50 potency to the attack.
Additional unique effects require you to be standing by a certain probe.
120s cooldown. Costs MP. Triggers your Aetherprobe III cooldown.

Lv. 64 Apeirogonal Sine
Replaces Apeiroga when standing within 5y of the Opposite-Hypotenuse angle probe. (probably the second one placed)
Detonating deals the damage of Apeirogon and shields the party for 60% of their max HP.
120s cooldown. Costs MP. Triggers your Aetherprobe III cooldown.

Lv. 66 Apeirogonal Cosine
Replaces Apeiroga when standing within 5y of the Adjacent-Hypotenuse angle probe. (probably the first one placed)
Detonating deals the damage of Apeirogon and bestows a HoT on the party for a total of 80% of their max HP over 18s.
120s cooldown. Costs MP. Triggers your Aetherprobe III cooldown.

Cartesian: Level 66 trait.
Enemies in the triple-probe aetheric field are effected by the ‘Cartesian’ effect, giving each tick of Negative Logarithm a 6% of triggering the Enhanced Axiom effect.
Party members in the field are effected by the ‘Cartesian’ effect, giving each tick of Positive Logarithm a 3% of triggering the Enhanced Congruence effect.
Enhanced Axiom and Enhanced Congruence cause the next spell of their respective type to deal/heal for 100% more damage/HP.

Lv. 68 Apeirogonal Tangent
Replaces Apeiroga when standing within 5y of the Opposite-Adjacent angle probe. (the last probe you placed)
Detonating deals the damage of Apeirogon and heals the party for 75% of their max HP.
120s cooldown. Costs MP. Triggers your Aetherprobe III cooldown.

Lv. 70 Stratification
Tap into a deeper aethercurrent, unlocking a second 5% Terrain Aspect Bonus to utilise in addition to the current one, combining two buffs at once when using either Gaia or Aetherprobe III.
Secondary bonus is entirely random. Effect disappears after 20s or if you move to a different terrain area. 120s cooldown. Costs TP.

-SB cut off-

Lv. 72 Escarpment
Convert the Stratification bonus into the same aspect as the Terrain Aspect Bonus, making it a total 15% effect. 120s cooldown. Costs TP.

Lv. 76 Slide Rule
Warp to an Aetherprobe, defaults to closest and can then be reused to cycle through probes. 3s cooldown. Costs TP.
Basically Aetherial Manipulation using probes instead of party members.

Lv. 80 Faultline
Primes current spot for an Earthquake. 10y ground targeted AoE. Duration 6s. Cooldown 180s. Costs TP.
Any Quake or Aftershock spells you cast on this spot will deal an additional 100 potency base damage and heal any party members in range for 50% of the damage inflicted.



Terrain Aspect Bonuses: Similar to AST’s cards, but based on location so they’re entirely predictable and not under your control.
These can vary by location within dungeons but will never vary within a boss battle arena.
The gauge will display what bonus your current location provides.
The specific buffs are merely ideas, there might be better ideas out there.

Fire: Physical Damage Up
Lighting: Magic Damage Up
Wind: Skill Speed Up
Ice: Spell Speed Up
Water: Healing Up (like Convalescence)
Earth: Damage Received Down (like Bole)

I thought these buffs would be different enough from AST cards that they wouldn’t feel too similar, and in addition they’re a little less versatile with speed and damage buffs being split between damage types.
These ‘pairs’ as such would typically be seen together in the same dungeon, such as one dungeon alternating between Wind and Ice (say Snowcloak if that were to have it)
So Fire/Lightning would be damage up, Wind/Ice would be speed up, and Water/Earth is survivability up, or taking the load off of you the healer.


Job Gauges: Two parts, both of which display at level 60.
Terrain Gauge: Simply an elemental symbol representing the Terrain Aspect Bonus, with a second slot under it for the second bonus via Stratification. The simple form would be two slots side by side, the first showing TAB and the second showing Stratification bonus
Geometry Gauge: Three slots laid out in a right triangle, and at each corner are the SIN, COS and TAN symbols. When you are standing within range of an Aetherprobe, this symbol along with the two sides of the triangle that form that angle light up, Indicating which Apeirogonal is available.
Simple form is one slot that will display either SIN, COS or TAN.

i could see geo being the master of HoT healing with some burst heals to oppose the whm stance of powerful burst with some hots