So first off. I saw some Stormblood Trailer reaction yesterday. Before I got back into FF14, I thought Stormblood Cinematic was the intro to a dancer class. Most people thought the same.
How long did it take for square to clear up the confusion and say that's a monk?
As for Hasvaelgar, it just occured to me. He has a deep love with Shiva, yet... he also have a brood of his own...
Did he leave his wife for a young hot elven girl? Where is Hasvaelgar previou brood mate now? We killed Nidhogg one.
A couple of question about Lyse and Hasvaelgar
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03-02-2018, 05:58 AMPheliosA couple of question about Lyse and Hasvaelgar
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03-02-2018, 06:03 AMCanadane
When they released the Wind-up Lyse minion.
Tataru's choice of raiment for this lifelike recreation of Ala Mhigo's newest heroine was, by no means, made with the sole intention of confusing the public into believing Lyse was a dancer by profession. Honest. -
03-02-2018, 06:09 AMSannaR
That was Nidhogg's 2nd mate as his 1st was the one that started the war. Um, I'm not sure what happened to Hasvaelgar's orignal babymomma. I dont think there is enough info out there. I mean for all we know Nid, Hasvaelgar and Ratataskor (sp?) had an open relationship. Or he had fun with one of Tiamat's off spring. We still havent seen either of the missing two of the seven. We do know the Allagans were holding a 2nd great wyrm just that one excaped. One of them is a loner if you go off their outside of the game lore. The other one again going off their outside of game lore seems to be a HUGE jerk and likes to build damn/forts in rivers.
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03-02-2018, 06:11 AMPhelios
Well, I saw the scene where Valdolfnir said "Our sires bade us" Which mean more than one. Which mean a baby momma is still alive. Does that mean even though Hasvaelgar love shiva, he still mated with a dragon after?
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03-02-2018, 06:13 AMCanadane
One would imagine you can't make babies between the two.
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03-02-2018, 06:14 AMObsidianFire
Hrasvelgr is pretty easy to clear up. Dragons in the FFXIV universe asexually lay eggs regardless of their gender or whether they have a brood mate. The reasons why dragons have brood mates is because they are incredibly long-lived and tend to go crazy if they remain isolated for too long (to the point where madness and loneliness are the same word in dragon language). From the sound of it, Hrasvelgr never had a brood mate before Shiva and with the way he talks about her, it sounds like Shiva's soul is still with his which is what Shiva wanted for the both of them.
You see another variation of this in the Lvl 70 DRG quests where one of Hrasvelgr's sons, Vedrfolnir, laid an egg and had a kid after his brood mate (one of Nidhogg's daughters) left Eorzea after Ratatoskr died so that Nidhogg wouldn't force her to attack Ishgard. You end up finding her in the Steppes having gone crazy from loneliness and resisting Nidhogg's call. Fortunately, seeing Vedrfolnir restores her to sanity and she and Vedrfolnir get one of the cutest "Get a room!" scenes with Vedrfolnir's kid. -
03-02-2018, 06:18 AMPhelios
Wait Veldrfnolnir is a BOY?! Sounded like a girl!
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03-02-2018, 06:29 AMCanadaneWell when Stormblood came out and she never changed to Dancer and we never got a new job, it was pretty much set.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phelios
But then The Rising happened, https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...17/The_Rising/
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03-02-2018, 06:32 AMkillsteinyou're thinking of vidofnir. vedrfolnir is the white twintania reskin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phelios
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03-02-2018, 06:35 AMObsidianFire
Two of Hrasvelgr's kids have very similar names. Vidofnir, who lives in Anyx Trine (and was speared by Nidhogg/Estinian), is female. Vedrfolnir, the dragon you see fighting against Darkscale in several Churning Mists FATEs (and who is ridden by Aymeric), is male.
General things to clear up: Ratatoskr was Hraesvelgr and Nidhogg's sister, but not their brood mate. Out of all the Midgardsomr's children, she was the one who traveled the most and was most fond of humans. She was even the one who let slip that the life-force of a dragon is in their eyes... The only reason why Hraesvelgr didn't join in Nidhogg's war against Ishgard is out of respect for the relationship he had/still has with Shiva. He's mad enough at Ratatoskr dying that he pretty much ignores what Nidhogg is doing. It's only when Midgardsomr says Nidhogg is too far gone that he gives the WoL a chance at all. -
03-02-2018, 06:46 AMPhelios
So the the dragons being Asexual are true right?
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03-02-2018, 07:09 AMViduLorebook, page 268:Quote:
Originally Posted by Phelios
"Although dragons will identify their gender as either male or female, be it for the sake of convenience or indicidual preference, every member of the species is capable of reproducing asexually." -
03-02-2018, 07:43 AMPhelios
I see. Also did Midgarsomdr know of Rataskor death? I mean, that IS his daughter.
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03-02-2018, 08:01 AMObsidianFire
Well, Midgardsomr stood by and did nothing while Allag killed Bahamut (another one of his sons) and imprisoned Tiamat (another one of his daughters).
We end up learning in the Omega storyline that Midgardsomr made a deal with Hydaleyn so that his kids could live on it, and part of the deal was that he only really manifests when Hydaleyn needs him. Other then that he stays in the Lifestream. He's not exactly free to do whatever he wants too. -
03-02-2018, 08:22 AMSannaR
Man now I'm more worried about Tiamat than I have been. Even her father felt that she should stop throwing the longest even in dragon terms self-loathing party known. It can't be good for her to be where she is for that long with no visitors until us.
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03-02-2018, 09:16 AMObsidianFire
Tiamat's a little different. Bahamut (the real one, not the primal one) was both her brood-brother and her brood-mate. When the Allagans killed him, she followed the Ascians' advice and summoned him as a primal. She's been regretting it ever since as Primal-Bahamut is nothing like Dragon-Bhamut was. Midgardsomr makes it sound like she could leave Azys Lla whenever, it's just that she doesn't want to leave because she wants to punish herself for summoning Bahamut as a primal. Given that she hasn't gone insane after 5,000 years of being alone... I kinda don't think she's ever going to...
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03-02-2018, 09:30 AMWhiteArchmage
It really makes me feel for Tiamat and makes me hope we can convince her to let go...she's literally surrounded by a cloud of corrupted aether and may well stay imprisoned til the end of Hydaelin...
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03-02-2018, 09:56 AMViduAs sorry as I feel for her: I hope that never happens. It wouldnt sit right with me that after 5.000 years of self inflicted torture all she needed was a creature with such a short lifespan than ours to come along and tell her thats okay and that shes forgiven. Her father tried and didnt succed - what weight does our word carry to her?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage
Depending on wether or not you finished Coil, you might be the one who ended Bahamuts Summon, but we probably cant grasp Tiamats sorrow.
This once I dont want to be the hero who sets everything right and who saves everyone - I'm glad that this game isnt even build that way, turning our character into a Deus Ex Machina kind of thing.
This once I want to fail - because convincing Tiamat to let go would "devalue" her 5.000 years of suffering. She cant forgive herself - and I dont see the WoL fit to be the person to make her forgive herself. I dont want a scene where it only needed "the right word" to make her realize that she doesnt has to do this to herself - specially not with that word coming from us. No matter how powerful we might be, we're still just a fly in the eyes of a first brood dragon... (btw something I'm most worried about - we know what power dragon eyes hold and now that we have opend the way to Azys Lla anyone could just come and collect those two eyeballs, that are basically sitting on a silver plate there - I'm not so much worried about a threat but rather about more potential dragons within the storyline...)