This plot of land is not yet ready for purchase

Sooo... I've been trying to buy this plot of land since last night... It has the brown gavel and shows a price.. but when your try to buy it (private nor FC) it gives me the error
"This plot of land is not yet ready for purchase" It's been this way since last night (EST)
What gives? is there a timer or something on this LAST plot available in Gridania? :(

It's a plot that was preciously owned by someone. At patch 4.2 they added a random timer on plots that been relinquished / relocated from - basicly a anti re-sell house measure.

...if there is, however, a small plot available anywhere on your server, you can buy that and immidiatly relocate to the plot in lavender beds - the random timer has no effect on relocation. You may end up spending some more gil, but you could get that plot right now and for sure (well, unless someone else has the same idea)

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Originally Posted by Vidu

...if there is, however, a small plot available anywhere on your server, you can buy that and immidiatly relocate to the plot in lavender beds - the random timer has no effect on relocation. You may end up spending some more gil, but you could get that plot right now and for sure (well, unless someone else has the same idea)

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is that true?

so I could for example pay some guy to relinquish there large plot. and then move in to that plot straight away because I have a small and can relocate immediately?

if that's the case then what the hell is the point of the random timer???

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Originally Posted by Dzian

is that true?

so I could for example pay some guy to relinquish there large plot. and then move in to that plot straight away because I have a small and can relocate immediately?

if that's the case then what the hell is the point of the random timer???

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That is also probably against TOS but sure you could do that.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

is that true?

so I could for example pay some guy to relinquish there large plot. and then move in to that plot straight away because I have a small and can relocate immediately?

if that's the case then what the hell is the point of the random timer???

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*giggles* Where have you been these last few weeks? People have been complaining about how relocation by-passes the random timer and how people are still selling plots to relocaters (as well as houses with an FC attached, the easiest way to sell a house). The point of the random timer seems to be keeping people from getting into the housing market by not letting them purchase their first home from a flipper. And so people will have to camp placards forever, only to have to switch to a different placard somewhere else when someone relocates to their camped plot. It's lots of fun trying to go to different cities to figure out where someone moved from so you can camp the new RNG timer from the relocated plot.

In all seriousness, I really wish there was some distinction between a house that is available for purchase and a house with a timer. And it's a really awful experience to camp a plot for 5+ hours only to have someone relocate to it.

Thanks for the replies! I'll have to look around then. I'm at work though and can only remote into my computer using my phone so it's super laggy... But if the housing market for other cities is anything like in Gridania.. I'm prob sol... :'(

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Originally Posted by Loveliss

Thanks for the replies! I'll have to look around then. I'm at work though and can only remote into my computer using my phone so it's super laggy... But if the housing market for other cities is anything like in Gridania.. I'm prob sol... :'(

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When I was looking around last night, there were still lots of smalls in Goblet in most of the new wards. You should probably be able to find one there. I'd try plots 9, 10, 21-24, and 26-28.

edit: If they've been relinquished then the plot price should not have had time to go down that much, so I'd start with the cheapest houses. It will save you a little gil that way as well.

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Originally Posted by MizArai

*giggles* Where have you been these last few weeks? People have been complaining about how relocation by-passes the random timer and how people are still selling plots to relocaters (as well as houses with an FC attached, the easiest way to sell a house). The point of the random timer seems to be keeping people from getting into the housing market by not letting them purchase their first home from a flipper. And so people will have to camp placards forever, only to have to switch to a different placard somewhere else when someone relocates to their camped plot. It's lots of fun trying to go to different cities to figure out where someone moved from so you can camp the new RNG timer from the relocated plot.

In all seriousness, I really wish there was some distinction between a house that is available for purchase and a house with a timer. And it's a really awful experience to camp a plot for 5+ hours only to have someone relocate to it.

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The bypassing will stop soon as all plots are occupied with no plot to relocate too people bypassing will have no way to bypass the timer.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

is that true?

so I could for example pay some guy to relinquish there large plot. and then move in to that plot straight away because I have a small and can relocate immediately?

if that's the case then what the hell is the point of the random timer???

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Well, the idea behind it is that if you relocate, even if its to a "better" location, the amount of open houses stays the same, since you leave an open plot behind when you relocate.
I'm not sure why the random timer doesnt effect relocation, seems a little bit weird, granted.

But the point of the random timer is to make house flipping more difficult - you cant sell houses anymore. And if someone relocates, the amount of open houses stays the same.
Gaming the system like I suggested also only works now, while there are houses without a random timer on them.

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Originally Posted by MizArai

*giggles* Where have you been these last few weeks? People have been complaining about how relocation by-passes the random timer .

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honestly I just thought people were annoyed all the mediums and larges were being taken by people relocating and fcs. I didn't realise the timer on relinquished plots didn't apply at all...

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

The bypassing will stop soon as all plots are occupied with no plot to relocate too people bypassing will have no way to bypass the timer.

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People will still be able to sell a plot relinquish to a relocater since it bypasses the timer. Until SE changes the rules to make relocation wait for the RNG timer as well, this simple fact will not change. All the houses on a server being taken won't change this simple mechanic. And plots will always become available again through auto-demolition, people relinquishing so they can transfer servers, or people selling their relinquish.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

honestly I just thought people were annoyed all the mediums and larges were being taken by people relocating and fcs. I didn't realise the timer on relinquished plots didn't apply at all...

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I've spent way too much time on the forums lately. They've been complaining about both, and how since the RNG timer doesn't apply to relocations it's made it easier for people to relocate to any mediums left behind by people relocating to the new larges. It was good reading. Lots of salt.

Lets complain about something... just for the sake to complain. The system is good and the amount of free plots is going down by each day. Once all/majority of the plots are used relocating will become much harder. At the end the number of relocations will be negligible, e.g. it will heavily depend on so many factors that it will be almost impossible to calculate. The only thing what is left are those who are selling the FC with the house, but even in this case the amount will drop down as once sold the "house flippers" will join the rest in waiting for a free plot to become available.
Its just matter of time until entire situation surrounding the housing will normalize. Patience is a virtue, dont expect for things to change for better over night but they will eventually change.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

honestly I just thought people were annoyed all the mediums and larges were being taken by people relocating and fcs. I didn't realise the timer on relinquished plots didn't apply at all...

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Can confirm buying some other plot then relocating bypasses the timer. My friend did that yesterday to get his plot of choice.

I bought a plot on 03/14/18. There was 1 plot server-wide. I lost one before (was competing against another camper, but had to log after the initial devaluation timer, when I returned after 2 hours (in the middle of the 5 hour devaluation timer) the plot had already sold). After several hours, another plot opened up, but I stayed put. A few people came by but thankfully left (another player said the plot I was camping had been "called out"), they either went to the other plot that opened or planned to come back after the devaluation timer was up. I stuck it out all night into the morning, checking it multiple times every minute/every minute (people had insinuated that it COULD be available BEFORE the devaluation timer). 2 minutes after the initial devaluation timer was up, I got the plot. I'd say perhaps plots are only available for personal purchase after the initial devaluation timer is up.
TL;DR: I camped for 11.5 hours to buy a plot 2 minutes after the initial devaluation timer.

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Originally Posted by Azazyl

I'd say perhaps plots are only available for personal purchase after the initial devaluation timer is up.

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Sorry, but the random purchasing timer and the devaluation timer aren't related. And unless the house is at its lowest possible price, the devaluation timer is always active. As soon as it hit zero, the price lowers a bit and it starts again.