Too many wards

"When everyone is special; no one is".

I feel like housing is a great way to add individual prestige to the game, but every time you add another plot you are diminishing the prestige or value of everyone else's plot.

Not everybody gets a house, not everybody should, if diamonds were as common as sand no one would want them.

I realise that 90% of players would feel left out of content; but it's no different than the 90% of players who couldn't take on unending coil; it's just a different endgame and a different prestige that people go for.

Please stop adding wards until the player base grows to ensure that never more than 10-20% of players and FCs can own a house.

Do...do you realize there's actual content and features tied to owning a house? This has to be the most arrogant, short-sighted thread I've seen on this board.

Is this sarcasm? You can't be serious.

They should make this forum a *prestige feature*. Too many people think they are too special by saying *Not everybody gets a house, not everybody should* when everyone pays equally.

You must be a fishing enthusiast, because this looks like some good bait.

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Originally Posted by Elamys

Do...do you realize there's actual content and features tied to owning a house? This has to be the most arrogant, short-sighted thread I've seen on this board.

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And there's content and features tied to beating unending coil; like the best weapons and achievements; should everybody be entitled to this too?? They shouldn't need the difficulty down to normal than..

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Originally Posted by Tibryn

And there's content and features tied to beating unending coil; like the best weapons and achievements; should everybody be entitled to this too?? They shouldn't need the difficulty down to normal than..

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I can go into unending coil if I want to at any moment. Housing is more like if I couldn't challenge Unending Coil because only 40 people can challenge it a week. ???? This has to be bait.

This guy is great at stirring the pot xD

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Originally Posted by Elamys

I can go into unending coil if I want to at any moment. Housing is more like if I couldn't challenge Unending Coil because only 40 people can challenge it a week. ???? This has to be bait.

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You can't challenge coil until you beat neo, which most people couldn't do...

You can't buy a house until someone's is demolished; it's rare but it happens. Always be hunting...

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Originally Posted by Tibryn

And there's content and features tied to beating unending coil; like the best weapons and achievements; should everybody be entitled to this too?? They shouldn't need the difficulty down to normal than..

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You really don't get it don't you? You compare a spoon with an airplane. Anyone can beat unending coil, the question is time and it has nothing to do with difficulty, only players desire to beat it. When it comes to housing, you're tied up with amount of houses SE can provide and people who want same house as you do. You will still have a chance of clearing *unique content* even if entire player base would clear it, but you wont get a house if there will be no free ones.

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Originally Posted by Tibryn

You can't challenge coil until you beat neo, which most people couldn't do...

You can't buy a house until someone's is demolished; it's rare but it happens. Always be hunting...

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And I can challenge Neo Exdeath whenever I want...and the boss before that...and the boss before that...and the boss before that. At no point is my ability to participate in these raids hindered by an artificial amount of people.

What about when every house has finally gone to someone who really wants housing and plays actively? What then? I don't even know why I'm still responding to you I'm just in absolute awe.

I feel like the market board is a prestige feature. Too many people using that diminishes it.

Mail? Prestige feature.

Duty finder? Pfft. Far too many people allowed to bask in my presence in there.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Sure, why not?

I'd say we exclude everyone who thinks something should be exclusive from that particular something.

It's the ideal solution. The people who want exclusivity are excluded and thus can be happy because their vision is realized, while the people who don't like exclusivity are no worse off.

You "feel like housing is a great way to add individual prestige to the game,“ but the fact is, it is NOT.

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Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva

You really don't get it don't you? You compare a spoon with an airplane. Anyone can beat unending coil, the question is time and it has nothing to do with difficulty, only players desire to beat it. When it comes to housing, you're tied up with amount of houses SE can provide and people who want same house as you do. You will still have a chance of clearing *unique content* even if entire player base would clear it, but you wont get a house if there will be no free ones.

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Exactly and that's how it should be thank you.

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Originally Posted by DeploreTheSun

You "feel like housing is a great way to add individual prestige to the game,“ but the fact is, it is NOT.

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What are you talking about everyone here is jealous of other people's houses. That's prestige.

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Originally Posted by Tibryn

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*Raises finger.....pauses......tries to say something....pauses.......turns around and walks away realizing just how utterly stupid this thread is*

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Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva

They should make this forum a *prestige feature*. Too many people think they are too special by saying *Not everybody gets a house, not everybody should* when everyone pays equally.

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The OP only has 18 post and two silver medals and thinks they're prestigious enough to post here, pffft. >w>

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Originally Posted by Tibryn

You can't challenge coil until you beat neo, which most people couldn't do...

You can't buy a house until someone's is demolished; it's rare but it happens. Always be hunting...

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This is such a terrible comparison.

In order to get to Bahamut Super Savage, you need to beat Neo. As in you the player have to work to defeat a boss. But for housing you have to hang around and wait for someone to demolish their house or not resub.

How are these remotely the same? In one you're actively doing something to get to your goal, in the other you just wait for someone else to do something. Are you really trying to compare fighting a raid boss to praying someone's house gets demolished?

Diamonds are common, though. Plus the whole thing where we can literally manufacture them.

It's just artificial inflation by a company holding a monopoly, coupled with obscene marketing techniques that have ingrained the idea that diamonds are valuable.

They are intrinsically worthless. That's not just me saying it. That's literally the chairman of the De Beers company that has the monopoly on them.



Nothing else about your post was worth spending much thought on.

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Originally Posted by Tibryn

if diamonds were as common as sand no one would want them.

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Except they practically are. The reason they're expensive and a sign of opulence is called artificial scarcity. Companies aggressively control the supply that flows into the market. Approximately 160 million carats are mined every year, but a large portion, if not the majority, are stockpiled in warehouses away from purchase to create the illusion of rareness. All it takes is a quick google search on google scholar to find many, many, many studies done on this.

Nice troll tho, 3/10. Really got a few people going.

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Originally Posted by Tibryn

"When everyone is special; no one is".

I feel like housing is a great way to add individual prestige to the game, but every time you add another plot you are diminishing the prestige or value of everyone else's plot.

Not everybody gets a house, not everybody should, if diamonds were as common as sand no one would want them.

I realise that 90% of players would feel left out of content; but it's no different than the 90% of players who couldn't take on unending coil; it's just a different endgame and a different prestige that people go for.

Please stop adding wards until the player base grows to ensure that never more than 10-20% of players and FCs can own a house.

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There should be no prestige in owning a house, so anything which lessens any percieved prestige of it is a good thing.
Or in other words: I completely disagree.

Though I believe we would have less problems with housing if they adapted prices to the current gil inflation a bit more. 3 million for a plot is done with a few crafts or 1 rare item drop, during arr 1 million felt like 50 million nowadays.

The only thing you miss without a house are airships/submarines and a bit of gardening optimization, which you cant do with apartments.
And I cant take people serious who scream very loud about their housing problems if they are still on Balmung trying the impossible, while on other servers wards are empty as fck. If you really care so much about housing, there is a simple solution...

This game community has a big mindset of being entitled to every content and item there is, it is not bad in general that some prestige/exclusive objects exist. But somewhere needs to be a line, like for feast ratedtop10 rewards in the past, with some of those also were made available to everyone by grinding non-rated content. Even with the limited wards we have now, some wards are ghost towns already, I would be happier with other solutions than to add more individual wards every time.

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Owning houses could be made more expensive, like a weekly tribute which rises every week to a certain limit like 10 million in several steps(instead of buying them directly/forever). Those tribute prices could be adjusted by the demand there is on the server. If you can afford it you can keep it, if not your house instance will be saved for later use, but the plot location will be open to others. Once you lost it, the weekly tribute will reset again and makes it easy to get it again. So many people gonna stop using housing with their alts and fake fc's because it will not be profitable anymore. There can be a persisting queue system if you are out once, to reapply for the next small/medium/large plots automatically then. I can live 1 week without housing if its guaranteed that my ward is healthy,alive and that I'm gonna save some gil by doing so. With such a dynamic system you can satisfy more people in the log run than with the current static one.

Atm there is no downside for owning a house, if you already have 8 characters with each 1 house and 1 fc house, you can keep them forever even if you are not playing the game at all for 45 days, that is still the joke.

As much as I am not a fan of throwing rocks at the wolf pack, this is great xD

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Snowflake syndrome.
STR meld RDMs
meree RDM in XI
Sword using DRGs in XI
Most people shouldnt have houses

It all sounds the same to me.

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Originally Posted by Tibryn

if diamonds were as common as sand no one would want them.

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Diamonds aren't rare. They are practically worthless, which is why when you try to sell one back to a jeweler you are lucky to get 50% of the initial cost back.

Guys, the OP is a troll. Acknowledging him only feeds his need for attention and encourages him to keep it up. The only way to end the stupidity is to ignore him until he gets bored and moves on.

Boo, a bunch of you already commented on the diamond thing.

But I'm posting this anyway (caution: language): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5kWu1ifBGU

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Originally Posted by Tibryn

"if diamonds were as common as sand no one would want them.

I realise that 90% of players would feel left out of content; but it's no different than the 90% of players who couldn't take on unending coil; it's just a different endgame and a different prestige that people go for.

Please stop adding wards until the player base grows to ensure that never more than 10-20% of players and FCs can own a house.

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Beach is greater than diamond, & you F824, Gtf0 a fight in the game isnt comparable to a none battle content, it should not be, you claiming something like that is highly wrong, i wont use several examples & reasons as to why but

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Originally Posted by Tibryn

And there's content and features tied to beating unending coil; like the best weapons and achievements; should everybody be entitled to this too?? They shouldn't need the difficulty down to normal than..

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The Coil difrficulty has nothing to do with the housing crap we all have to deal with ?#%$@&#$*I 3756340927

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Originally Posted by Tibryn

You can't challenge coil until you beat neo, which most people couldn't do...

You can't buy a house until someone's is demolished; it's rare but it happens. Always be hunting...

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I & a lot of us find your arguments invalid Tibryn #($& ?@(#) $%#) &#$%@%#& 44058574 read in between the lines

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Originally Posted by Tibryn

Exactly and that's how it should be thank you.

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No it should not because, i can guarantee to you that if lets say pvp was tied to housing system, a lot of ppl giving some talk like you do would lose their houses onto a fair system, go & argue that there would be any different scenario, you'd more than likely get your diamonds stolen by several players , in other words, it'd be kick asses #&?#@*$ #&%$@(#$ #$&$?@ dont compare rl bs because this is real life afterall real persons are behind characters 39 7456387 4uyu354374 642@&#%@$

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Originally Posted by Tibryn

What are you talking about everyone here is jealous of other people's houses. That's prestige.

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The prestige you speak of is nothing, if other player had a fair shot (putting cheaters & better internet/server crash/errors on the side) the current gil value & the camping would outdo Y0ur #(#$ *@#? ?$(@&$#?$. Even if cost of a mansion would be higher it wouldnt change the real problem , the real problem is that we player that get locked out of content because we dont want to make fake fc, get restricted an attempt & even if we did make an fc the # of plots of the size we want is unexistent, demolish small plots & replace them with medium & larges, take 2 small & make a medium , that is not witchcraft, IRL like you all claim so... if you have the money you can destroy two house & make 1 plot of it, or buy 2 empty & build from scratch THIS GAME DOES NOT ALLOW US TO DESTROY TO REBUILD ON A DIFFERENT SIZE WITH THE WRONG PLOT + WE CAN NOT EVEN BUY A RIGHT SIZE & obviously buying several houses isnt a thing anymore anyway.

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Originally Posted by Tibryn

And there's content and features tied to beating unending coil; like the best weapons and achievements; should everybody be entitled to this too?? They shouldn't need the difficulty down to normal than..

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lol, ok so we're now comparing raid content (that not everyone can or should be doing) to casual content (that everyone should be able to do and use).... *slow clap*

Nhweeelll.... at least took some time till the trolls came in.

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Nice bait/troll attempt.

Allow me to translate for the OP
"I have a shiny toy and I don't want anyone else to have one ever!"
Also,
"I'm lonely and starved for attention. Look at me!"