Are you consdering, or have withdrew auto rewenal/ sub due to the 4.2 patch notes?

Just wondering how many are going "I had enough" when it comes to overcharging us for inventory while they do not not address anything, like giving us a pre alpha glam system.

For those that do not know, the big notes from the patch notes is how the added glam system handles dyes poorly, you need to destroy gear to make more room in the tiny 200 space, going back to HW days in making pld useless and war op, and finally the ability to rent a 9th retainer.

I really find it insulting to be offered almost zero fixes for inventory issues and glam issues and yet we get a 9th retainer to rent. Doesn't this look really shady to people? How come we have not got free ones yet if they need more time to fix things? I am simply amazed, this is the second expansion and things are not fixed.

Only good update coming out of 4.2 is housing, something that could been done with the release of HW.

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pld useless what the heck are you talking about?

200 free space is a decent size to start and you also get an extra 70 slots from chocobo saddlebag and can stack items up to 999 which will open up more room

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Originally Posted by Rita1989

pld useless what the heck are you talking about?

200 free space is a decent size to start and you also get an extra 70 slots from chocobo saddlebag and can stack items up to 999 which will open up more room

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But will the FC chest allow stacks of 999? That's the question on my mind.

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Originally Posted by Rita1989

pld useless what the heck are you talking about?

200 free space is a decent size to start and you also get an extra 70 slots from chocobo saddlebag and can stack items up to 999 which will open up more room

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it is not 200 free spots, it is heavily restricted how you can use those items for glam, you have to use them though plates and your stuck with the dye on the plate.

I do admit though I am confused on the chocobo saddlebag, I never bothered with having one because I never saw the point. Can you access it in town? craft from it? craft in your house?

70 spots is still tiny compared with the amount of items you deal with at any rate.

No, I'm just never going to use the glamour plates. It seems like an utter waste of time with how it's currently implemented.

No.

"Overcharging" inventory would imply that the current default inventory has its own monthly cost and now they're adding extra fees to it. Give blame where its due. Optional retainers are just that, optional. We could be given thousand slots of inventory with a complete organizational system and the complaint against retainers would still exist. One can think the extra retainers is shady practice but then you'd have to remember that there are people who actually like the system or at the very least give the impression they do (like that one person during a fanfest Pre-SB who requested to have more retainers). Pick the battles that really do matter, like the default inventory system, because cash shop services are a lost cause.

As for the glam system, that's another case of YMMV. Some people like myself simply view it as a start that has potential for future improvements. Other people see it as system that should've come with all the things other glam logs in other mmorpgs already have. And then you have others who don't care too much and are just glad that their tank classes are going to have individual looks.

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I do admit though I am confused on the chocobo saddlebag, I never bothered with having one because I never saw the point. Can you access it in town? craft from it? craft in your house?

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My understanding is that the chocobo saddlebag will act sort of like retainer inventory that goes where you go. You can access it from wherever you want, with or without the chocobo summoned, but you can't use the items directly from it. You have to take the items out of it first, then you can use it, but taking items out of a portable retainer doesn't seem like that big a deal to me. In fact, as something of a crafter, that sounds awesome to me. 999 stacks of items + a portable retainer? Sign me up for most of the current crafting items whenever I need them.

Listen. I get it. This game is not for everyone. I personally love it but I know a guy from my University days who can't bring himself to play anything beside wow. You have been here like two months and all you did was talk about how much you hate the game and the devs and everything. If you want to leave, just leave. You don't have to survey the community to see if you are the only one or not. For the record I love the new patch. Even the Main Scenario Roulette Changes. The speedrun hysteria has gotten out of hand. As for the inventory: All the changes are improvements so I really don't see your problem. Then again, I never did.

I just don’t get people who claim that they are cancelling sub/quitting just because of some patch notes, and have yet to experience the new changes themselves.

To these individuals, I only have the following to offer: “Good riddance, and watch the door on your way out.”

Cheers,
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I'm looking forward to building a sub. I hope I can paint it yellow.

I have never let my sub run out. I generally purchase 6 month sub at a time.

Sure, there is period where i don't login at all cause i find the game boring but i still support the game.

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Even the Main Scenario Roulette Changes. The speedrun hysteria has gotten out of hand. As for the inventory: All the changes are improvements so I really don't see your problem.

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Sitting afk for 1 hour & forced to watch cutscenes, that you saw #131545 times already is an improvement, indeed.
Speedrun does not have to do anything with this. People will avoid those dungeons like plague after 4.2.

You don't need to be a Nastradamus to predict how those changes will impact the game and experience for new players. Hint: it's not an improvement.

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pld useless

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I might have to call troll on this.

wat

And my answer is no.

LOL ok, you know I was with you till you started spouting the PLD nonsense.

I'm not quitting, but I will say the dresser is mostly useless for me. I'll probably use it for season outfits, since armoire stuff will work through it. But destroy my glamour items, no.

Hell no.
The only way I'm letting my house fall into auto-demolition is if I'm dead or in a coma for 46 days.
Homeowners aren't allowed to cancel their subs unless we know with 100% certainty that we're finished with the game and never returning.

I just can't wrap my head around people feeling 200 slots to store gear that exists just for vanity being nowhere near enough room.

How much gear to you people hoard?

But, no. We get to conbine items from the larger stacks. We get 70 more slots for storing things we don't immediately need. We get a 200 slot sized storage to put all that level 1 or otherwise useless for all but vanity gear. We get a tool to vanity full outfits and save them. We get an armoir expansion, further clearing out gear storage.

How is it so many players can't just sell or toss junk?

I wouldn't call PLD useless. Napkin math shows the nerf may only be a less than 2% nerf to their DPS, which will still be much better than HW PLD. I'm irritated that they basically tacked on DRK's "buffs", and WAR will be interesting to see (I suppose). But I'm not a tank main, so I wouldn't quit over that.

MSQ roulette is going to be a shite-fest. I'm going to queue up for it a few times after 4.2 to see how it is, but I fully expect a really long queue after the first couple days (since not everyone reads the patch notes and won't know about the changes), and people still doing their best to speed-run by tabbing through cutscene text super quickly. The changes to Prae and Castrum are not going to make things more pleasant for the bean sprouts, in my opinion.

The Glamour Dresser still needs a lot of work. I'm not using it for anything remotely valuable until they remove the "your item is destroyed if you ever choose to remove it" nonsense. And fix the dyeing thing. The slots...I got back and forth on. I have a lot of little pieces I use frequently that will eat up space quickly (accessories, the flower corsage headpieces, different weapons that aren't completed relics), so I wonder if 200 would be enough for me. But again, I'm not using it for anything I can't quickly craft or obtain again if need be--I was hoping to use it for different AF sets but I'll have to get duplicates of the 290 sets since they cannot be removed once placed in there, and Eureka is supposed to be all about "relic armor", which will be our new AF gear, I'm certain. For my relics, definitely only putting replicas in there. I like to keep my completed relics as tokens of my hard work, and I don't want them lost.

Duty Recorder was DoA already. Twitch does it better. There are too many arbitrary restrictions, and the fact that you can only use it in the Jade Stoa (if everyone agrees) is silly (especially when the devs showcased it in V4S during the Live Letter). I will give them that it's best to view the duty from each player in the party, but it's still vastly inferior to other streaming programs/websites.

Housing will be... interesting. I am cautiously optimistic but trying to not have many expectations after the fiasco that was 4.1 Shirogane release.



What would really cause a lot of unsubscribing would be if, when 4.25 hits, and Eureka bombs. I think the developers are aware of this. People are already fed up with the repetitiveness of design that has dated back to ARR, so if Eureka isn't this "new and exciting, never before seen content", there are going to be a lot of angry individuals out here. I think so, anyways.

Devs do what they want to do >_> is what I've observed from a few other games, including this one. Mass cancellations aren't going to sound any alarms. It certainly didn't do anything for Aion, Perfect World, etc.

So no.

Everyone's aware the current glamour system isn't going away, right?

...right?

I don't think I'll be making use of the the newer system aside from mulching some old dungeon gear from 15-50 content I've hoarded away. Been paying since the legacy campaign in 1.0 and don't have any plans to stop now.

I must admit I don't see a lot in the notes that will be much of a change from the current not-much-worth-doing issue. At the moment if I wasn't just watering plants I'd log in once or twice a week, and I don't see that changing. The tome cap, the once-a-week drops - there's just nothing to focus on long term that can keep you with something to do daily beyond levelling. There's some distractions now - like squadrons, wondrous tales, retainer ventures, but having done them all for so long and seeing next to little reward time after time, I'm past bothering much about them anymore. Even crafting scrips (and the aliapoes, etc) have no particular purpose I can glean (and the tiny prices on the MB for those mats only enforces that opinion). So all I'll have is yet more gearing of the once-a-week variety. Sure, there's some nice QOL/inventory changes, but none of that is giving me anything worth doing more than a handful of hours a week.

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And live in it, too.

Short answer is no I won't over patch notes. I'm only here due to friends anyway so patch note changes pretty much just roll past me and I'll just deal with the changes in my own way.

Castrum and Prea changes? Unless a friend or a friend of a friend needs it I won't be touching these places with a 10 foot pole.

Glam system changes? No problem for me since I find 95% of this games glamor just visually boring and blah anyway. The dresser will just be a good place to dump whatever glamor pieces I do have left that didn't go in the armoire.

9'th retainer? While I do find the idea of "renting" space in really bad taste especially with the bad item bloat in this game. I just don't rent them. I've already cleaned house on inventory and the two free retainers and salvaged a lot of free open space..

The PLD nerf is slightly annoying, but I'm definitely not quitting over that. it's maybe a 2-3% nerf overall, which isn't going to even be a blip on the radar. I'd have preferred if they would have just buffed DRK and left PLD and WAR alone, but the problems I have with DRK have more to do with gameplay feel and less to do with its' numbers so it needs a more in depth re-work than I think 4.2 would have time for.

Glamour Chest will probably need expanded, but I like the general direction its' going.

I've never needed more than three retainers.

Castrum/Preatorium is going to be a hilariously stupid move. I can't imagine that sticking around and I"m not sure wtf they are thinking. I would probably quit over that if I wasn't already over the hurdle of it.

If you want to unsub then unsub.
Nobody is stopping you.
You dont need to create a thread crying like a big baby because you didnt get the changes you wanted.

Can we try not to take all the wow forum toxicity here pls? Thanks in advance

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I'm really starting to hate that word.

I am not, I will play till the 14th of February, then take a month (maybe 2) to enjoy the single player RPGS that are being released. In February alone FF12 for PC and Legend of heroes: Trials of Cold Steel 2 and in March FF15.

I hope by the time we reach April, Eureka will have already been released and I can come back and focus on FF14 again.

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

going back to HW days in making pld useless and war op

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Anyone who thinks WAR is OP after the changes doesn't understand the class at all.

I'm genuinely surprised no WAR mains have been triggered by this portion of the post yet.

PLD useless. Okay.

I'll agree with the rest. This game has its flaws and we can agree or disagree with some of the changes. In the end, it's our personal choice if we want to stay or leave. I personally think it's kind of drama queen to state quitting over changes that we didn't even experience yet. Just speculating with math alone won't do. I think you should do some instrospection and think if this game is making you happy or unhappy. If it's the later, you should look around and look for a new home where you can actually have fun.

The one time I quit, which was for about 6 months, was after the Gordias bs. It killed the raiding scene and a lot of people quit at that point.

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Originally Posted by Zeonsilt

Sitting afk for 1 hour & forced to watch cutscenes, that you saw #131545 times already is an improvement, indeed.
Speedrun does not have to do anything with this. People will avoid those dungeons like plague after 4.2.

You don't need to be a Nastradamus to predict how those changes will impact the game and experience for new players. Hint: it's not an improvement.

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He meant the inventory changes were an improvement. We can argue about the MSQ changes, though, as I strongly disagree with SE, having other alternatives to address it.

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I'm really starting to hate that word.

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Same, people are using it even over some minor stuff. "Oh, he called me out because I'm doing poor DPS. HOW TOXIC!"

I swear, everyday, we get closer and closer to finally getting spam threads of "Is FFXIV dying"

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I swear, everyday, we get closer and closer to finally getting spam threads of "Is FFXIV dying"

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Back in the day, people used to overreact quite a bit. One user, as some form of parody, made this thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...al-Fantasy-XIV Imagine adding the ones that pop'd recently!

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I swear, everyday, we get closer and closer to finally getting spam threads of "Is FFXIV dying"

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We used to have those back in ARR when the vocal minority decided at launch to rush to level 50 as fast as possible and skip through all the story and cutscene dialog as fast as possible.
Then they came on to forums and claimed the game was dying because there wasnt enough end game and claimed that players were leaving by the droves XD

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We used to have those back in ARR when the vocal minority decided at launch to rush to level 50 as fast as possible and skip through all the story and cutscene dialog as fast as possible.
Then they came on to forums and claimed the game was dying because there wasnt enough end game and claimed that players were leaving by the droves XD

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ohhww the old times lmao ^^

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ohhww the old times lmao ^^

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Some of the stuff i read back was unreal.They even went as far as claiming that SE's profits were on a huge downward spiral and they were struggling with sales.
Then again you see it in any huge online game.Somebody doesnt get what they want so they decide to make a thread 'insert game title is dying'

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Just wondering how many are going "I had enough" when it comes to overcharging us for inventory while they do not not address anything, like giving us a pre alpha glam system.For those that do not know, the big notes from the patch notes is how the added glam system handles dyes poorly, you need to destroy gear to make more room in the tiny 200 space, going back to HW days in making pld useless and war op, and finally the ability to rent a 9th retainer.

I really find it insulting to be offered almost zero fixes for inventory issues and glam issues and yet we get a 9th retainer to rent. Doesn't this look really shady to people? How come we have not got free ones yet if they need more time to fix things? I am simply amazed, this is the second expansion and things are not fixed.

Only good update coming out of 4.2 is housing, something that could been done with the release of HW.

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People who unsub just leave. They don't post here.

zero fixes? 270 slots, 999 stack items and more items movable to the armoire.

That's at least a retainer and a half worth of inventory right there.


you keep posting how they gave us nothing and it seems you've found a whole thread of people who are enjoying what we're getting.

Glad you're looking forward to the housing though!

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No, I'm just never going to use the glamour plates. It seems like an utter waste of time with how it's currently implemented.

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This.

I won't lie, though - as much as I love this game there's an increasing amount of things (including the stuff referenced in my signature) that is causing me to be very wary. If Eureka ends up being a flop in the same way as Diadem then I may very well take a step back and consider returning to WoW.

Which is something I don't really want to do, but FFXIV is on thin ice these days for me.

I've never been a big fan of wine!

I'm glad to see many of the forum posters have a more refined taste than I do :D

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Sitting afk for 1 hour & forced to watch cutscenes, that you saw #131545 times already is an improvement, indeed.
Speedrun does not have to do anything with this. People will avoid those dungeons like plague after 4.2.

You don't need to be a Nastradamus to predict how those changes will impact the game and experience for new players. Hint: it's not an improvement.

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Nice sarcasm. Pitty you don't put that much effort into reading. Again, all the changes to THE INVENTORY are improvements. The MSQ Roulette is more like a necessary evil. But it IS necessary.

I don’t main most of the jobs being affected - including any of the tanks - so most of the stuff isn’t of much concern to me.

I don’t like the 10 Plate limit, but I’ll be able to finally glamour my Armorer differently from my Weaver, and that’s nice. I expect all 10 Plates will be used on the 8 crafting classes (complete with glowing-when-used tools) and two of teh gathering classes.

So, unsub over these? TC, what are you smoking?