An NPC you truly hate with passion

Post here and image of the one that is cringe worthy for you and you hate.

My choice goes for Nanamo ul Namo

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pu...mo_ul_namo.jpg

Zhloe Aliapoh for me, closely followed by Mnaago (or pineapple hair as I call her in game)

Lyse

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20170329045922

Emmanellain de Fortemps. Being second son gives him no excuse for being one of the more pathetic characters in this game. And unlike basically any other character that upset me, including Artoirel, he barely came around. My biggest disappointment is that it was Thancred that punched him and not my chara, as much as I understand it's because my chara has no voice and therefore couldn't chew him out afterward as well.

Lyse and Nanamo

Can't post a picture since I'm on my phone right now, but...

Estinien.

Godbert Manderville. Seriously. I can't stand the idiot.

And I still haven't forgiven him for siding with the rest of the Monetarists to prevent the Doman Refugees from settling in Ul'dah. He didn't say a damn word, he kept stubbornly silent and walked out with the rest of them! And even the Gold Saucer, what is touted as his big 'social service' to help give refugees employment is really a scam to make him even more money (witness his security team hassling a hapless elezen in the foyer who simply happened to be begging, and to say nothing of one guy in the same area who is planning to sell his son into slavery to apparently cover a debt he ran up there! To say nothing of his ridiculous antics that turned him into an extended meme.

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

Emmanellain de Fortemps. Being second son gives him no excuse for being one of the more pathetic characters in this game. And unlike basically any other character that upset me, including Artoirel, he barely came around. My biggest disappointment is that it was Thancred that punched him and not my chara, as much as I understand it's because my chara has no voice and therefore couldn't chew him out afterward as well.

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I was actually kind of hoping that he would die, honestly. I feel like it was a major kick in the teeth to lose two characters with depth to them back in Heavensward only for the gimmicky minor characters to emerge largely unscathed. It doesn't help that I have an intense loathing for that awful, awful face that he uses. :p

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Godbert Manderville. Seriously. I can't stand the idiot.

And I still haven't forgiven him for siding with the rest of the Monetarists to prevent the Doman Refugees from settling in Ul'dah. He didn't say a damn word, he kept stubbornly silent and walked out with the rest of them! And even the Gold Saucer, what is touted as his big 'social service' to help give refugees employment is really a scam to make him even more money (witness his security team hassling a hapless elezen in the foyer who simply happened to be begging, and to say nothing of one guy in the same area who is planning to sell his son into slavery to apparently cover a debt he ran up there! To say nothing of his ridiculous antics that turned him into an extended meme.

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If it wasn't for Lyse, Godbert and Hildibrand would be at the top of my list. I really can't stand them or the forced 'humour' surrounding them. Some people like it, though, so as long as it remains far removed from the MSQ's...so be it.

The entire cast of Harry Potter and the Scholasticate's Stone, including Inspector Briarden. I mean, I get you want to do a homage to them via the Scholasticate quest, but good lord. And Briarden was the most annoying character in Hildebrand quests, why do we need more of him?

Lyse, Alphinaud, Nanamo, all of them that make me walk around the world just to hear one sentence and move back.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I was actually kind of hoping that he would die, honestly. I feel like it was a major kick in the teeth to lose two characters with depth to them back in Heavensward only for the gimmicky minor characters to emerge largely unscathed. It doesn't help that I have an intense loathing for that awful, awful face that he uses. :p



If it wasn't for Lyse, Godbert and Hildibrand would be at the top of my list. I really can't stand them or the forced 'humour' surrounding them. Some people like it, though, so as long as it remains far removed from the MSQ's...so be it.

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I agree!

Re Briarden, he's about the only person in that quest line I can tolerate.

Probably gonna get alot of hate for this one, but I have to say Hauchefant. My reason, more so than the fact he was such a bland and boring character, is for the hype around him when he was just so dull. I didn't even realise people liked him so damn much until I finished his death cutscene and someone was waiting outside handing out items to 'console' the people who just witnessed it, and people /crying and speaking of their irl tears that he's gone... When I just laughed at the cutscene myself.

Lolorito and Teledji Adaledji. I am kinda getting sick of the "Monetarists are all evil masterminds!" but they Lalas..."But they are EVIL and VILE!" They still Lalas, I can't take them seriously here. I could punt them across Ul Dah. Actually mod that, any 'evil' NPC that is a lala, I can't take them seriously but the game keeps pushing and insisting we should take them seriously...see the PUG storyline for example.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

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I disagree with this.

Godbert clearly has a good heart and clearly WANTS to help people but in the situations you bring up...either his hands are tied or that isn't his fault.

In the case with the Doman Refugees, his silence speaks volumes. He clearly does want to help but he is putting Ul'dah first in his mind. Not money, but Ul'dah itself. We get a glimpse into his reasoning for staying silent during one of the recent patch MSQs where Nanamo goes to ask Godbert for advice. His advice, while harsh and seems cold and uncaring, is sound and thinking of the bigger picture.

Nanamo is constantly wanting to help the refugees of Ala Mhigo and Doma but Godbert brings up the fact that in her attempts to help these refugees, she's ignoring her people. There are poor and sick within Ul'dah's walls that are going on ignored and how do you think they feel seeing so much of Ul'dah's money and resources going to refugees? Godbert was thinking of the greater issue that would arise in the future, while Nanamo was thinking of the issue in front of her in the here and now.

Nanamo's original plan for the Ala Mhigan refugees would likely have caused the Ul'dah citizens to revolt and this was likely on Godbert's mind when it came to the Doman Refugees as well. So this shows us that for the Doman refugees, his silence is deafening. He WANTS to help the Doman refugees but says nothing cause he is sure doing so would tax the citizens of Ul'dah further, possibly sparking a revolt.

As for the beggar in the Gold Saucer, well...how many Casinos do you know that let people stand around begging for money? While I feel bad for the beggar, he is being disruptive to the patrons of the Gold Saucer, so I can understand why security is trying to kick them out. And if we wanna theory craft, who knows, Godbert might have stopped said guards as they were about to throw the beggar out and offered the beggar a job at the Gold Saucer.

The man trying to sell his son to pay off his debt, has nothing to do with Godbert so I don't know why you are trying to pin that on him. That is the fault of that man running up a debt and being enough of a monster to attempt selling his own son off to pay it but that has nothing to do with Godbert, he isn't forcing that man to sell his son, that man is doing it of his own accord.

Don't get me wrong, Godbert has some derp to him but overall, when he appears in the MSQ, his motivations and overall personality remain consistent. It's in the Hildy quests when he turns into a living meme. (A meme whom I still think is consistent but his consistentcy is reeeaaaalllly being bent a bit.)

A small addition. I think one of the consistent issues with the monetarists is that in the grand scheme of things (Save for Teledji who was just evil.) they are rather neutral. But the game/story does (In my opinion.) a poor job of fully showing us how strained Ul'dah is, they say it is, they say it a lot. But they never fully show it and this makes it harder to see the monetarists as anything but uncaring and cruel. Yes, Lolorito loves his money but it is clear he puts part of his profits back into Ul'dah, the same can be said for Godbert. But overall...this isn't shown much and the suffering of Ul'dah isn't shown much. They really need to give more SHOW not TELL when it comes to Ul'dah's citizens.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Godbert Manderville. Seriously. I can't stand the idiot.

And I still haven't forgiven him for siding with the rest of the Monetarists to prevent the Doman Refugees from settling in Ul'dah. He didn't say a [i]damn word, he kept stubbornly silent and walked out with the rest of them!

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It's arguable that he was doing what was best for Ul'dah and eventually best for the refugees considering how they found a stable place in Mor Dhona and how he helped steer Nanamo's decisions about supporting Ala Mhigo in ways to not put even more stress on the continually fragile situation in Ul'dah.

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Originally Posted by Settiesama

When I just laughed at the cutscene myself.

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Kind of a weird response to someone dying but you do you. I saw that same person and they gave me tea I think which was I thought a nice thought for the more invested people doing the story if a tad melodramatic

Laurentius Daye
https://i.imgur.com/tdBU19j.png

I hated him, and by proxy the Derplander, from the moment we let him walk away in the Shroud. Just let him walk away after what he did! As you could imagine, my seething hatred grew in 2.X and went nuclear somewhere... further along the way.


Close runner-up is Yotsuyu. Pending the results 4.2, she may temporarily become my most hated temporarily. But Laurentius... oh my god, Laurentius.

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Originally Posted by SilverObi

I saw that same person and they gave me tea I think which was I thought a nice thought for the more invested people doing the story if a tad melodramatic

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My fc does something like that too, whenever someone clears the Vault, even if on an alt, we have a few of us waiting outside for them with Wind-up Hauchys and hugs at the ready. The one person in our fc who didn't like Haurchefant played 1.0 originally and never bothered to check on things they changed that supposedly fleshed out both the chara and your chara's interaction with him, so he never got to care.

I never liked Tataru. I find her annoying and useless.

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

My fc does something like that too, whenever someone clears the Vault, even if on an alt, we have a few of us waiting outside for them with Wind-up Hauchys and hugs at the ready. The one person in our fc who didn't like Haurchefant played 1.0 originally and never bothered to check on things they changed that supposedly fleshed out both the chara and your chara's interaction with him, so he never got to care.

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That's a nice lil thing to do ^^ I was in the same boat to be perfectly honest in the transition from 1.0 to ARR. I didn't play enough of the first to really CARE about the world or what was happening but during the interim (especially after the final cutscene of 1.0) I threw myself into the lore so I could give it a fair shake and it turned out to be very good.

It's always understandable to dislike a character but most oftentimes I hear flimsy reasons for outright hating a character or sometimes just plain innocent ignorance about the character beyond first appearances

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Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid

But Laurentius... oh my god, Laurentius.

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Oh yes, Eorzea's chronically-backstabbing Wood Wailer. He switched allegiances so often it's like his coat was turned inside out! Oh how it felt good to beat him up along with the rest of the traitorous Fourth in Halatali during Heavensward, but I still felt cheated I didn't get to do the whole world a favour and actually kill him.

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Originally Posted by SilverObi

It's arguable that he was doing what was best for Ul'dah and eventually best for the refugees considering how they found a stable place in Mor Dhona and how he helped steer Nanamo's decisions about supporting Ala Mhigo in ways to not put even more stress on the continually fragile situation in Ul'dah.

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Oh, it's not so much I hate him because he sided with the Monetarists period, but more that he didn't say anything to explain himself that made him seem so heartless and uncaring, a character that is constantly touted as being compassionate and caring for the less fortunate. He just came across as just as greedy, power-hungry and arrogant as the rest of the Monetarists. At least Lolorito actually explained why he voted against the bill to let the Domans stay, Godbert stayed silent the whole time (and to add further salt into the Domans' wounds, he was so cowardly he tried to hide his identity under a robe! But the hooded figure is clearly Godbert as an image of that scene on the Lodestone actually showed him in that exact place at the table without the robe, making him complicit in the Monetarists's schemes.).

I'm sorry, but I just cannot forgive him for this.

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Probably gonna get alot of hate for this one, but I have to say Hauchefant. My reason, more so than the fact he was such a bland and boring character, is for the hype around him when he was just so dull. I didn't even realise people liked him so damn much until I finished his death cutscene and someone was waiting outside handing out items to 'console' the people who just witnessed it, and people /crying and speaking of their irl tears that he's gone... When I just laughed at the cutscene myself.

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I didn't like him, either! I barely noticed him before then, and yeah I found the Zephirin scene funny.

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Originally Posted by SilverObi

It's arguable that he was doing what was best for Ul'dah and eventually best for the refugees considering how they found a stable place in Mor Dhona and how he helped steer Nanamo's decisions about supporting Ala Mhigo in ways to not put even more stress on the continually fragile situation in Ul'dah.



Kind of a weird response to someone dying but you do you. I saw that same person and they gave me tea I think which was I thought a nice thought for the more invested people doing the story if a tad melodramatic

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It's pixels. People laugh at violence being done to pixels all the time. Most people can distinguish between the two.

I'll agree on Godbert in that specific context; I'm not a fan of Nanamo, at all, in fact I can't stand her, and he talked her out of being stupid. Most of the time it would seem businessmen in FFXIV are given the usual wicked role game devs tend to grant them, either due to their own silly prejudices or when pandering to their audiences', but it was the first time he ever spoke any sense, AFAIC.

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Originally Posted by SilverObi

Kind of a weird response to someone dying but you do you.

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It was funny because it was fairly stupid (although I know fear makes you do stupid things) and largely because such a death was wasted on such a boring character that never seemed to be as close to the WoL as the cutscene made out.

By stupid, I mean that the lance would never of hit the WoL if they just kept running. The only reason they even stood in it's path was because Harchefant called out to them which made them stop, forcing him to take up shield.

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Originally Posted by Settiesama

It was funny because it was fairly stupid (although I know fear makes you do stupid things) and largely because such a death was wasted on such a boring character that never seemed to be as close to the WoL as the cutscene made out.

By stupid, I mean that the lance would never of hit the WoL if they just kept running. The only reason they even stood in it's path was because Harchefant called out to them which made them stop, forcing him to take up shield.

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Ah okay that actually is more reasonable. The situation being completely avoidable but happening for Big Drama. I can see that point of view, like a "are you serious right now?" kind of thinking?

Actually add Krile to my previous post. After that telling off she gives us early into SB I really started to dislike her.

Alphinaud....every story patch, I kinda wanna smack him with his own book and yell at him for having a Carby he doesn't deserve.

Yotsuyu:

http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/...mblood-2.3.jpg

She competes with Algus/Argath of FFT for the title of my most hated character in Final Fantasy. I was genuinely angry when she was revealed to have survived the events at Doma Castle and am further enraged that she seems to be getting a redemption arc in 4.2. :mad:
I sincerely hope that I at least get the choice to not forgive her in dialogue even if it has no bearing on the rest of the story.

I'm in the loving Hildy and Godbert camp myself but I can respect that their style isn't for everyone.

Gaius van Bealsar.

Here's a character that has;

-savagely oppressed and beaten the people of Ala Mhigo
-forced Ala Mhigo's surviving upper classes to side with him out of survival
-brainwashed the children of those same upper class to act as SS Officer style enforcers while still giving them a just good enough quality of life over non-citizens to keep them complacent
-preached genocide towards beast tribes
-enforces the Garlean laws of religious supression and erasure or be executed, thus destroying artifacts that had fallen in disrepair thanks to the Mad King
-shown to talk to Livia like she was a piece of meat, but again, still gave Livia a quality of life just good enough to keep her complacent
-has somehow, bafflingly, garnered a rabid fandom of people that think Garlemald isn't "that bad" despite the clear Third Reich allegories all over


At least if Yoshi-P caved and let him live, it means I can put him down again.

Oooo, this is a tough one. I'd have to say Hildibrand and Yuyuhase. Hildibrand because I just can't stand the whole "Inspector Gadget meets Mister Magoo" style humor. He thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread and yet he's a total moron. And as for Yuyuhase... I think that speaks for itself. While Laurentis showed a LITTLE remorse for what they did at the Wall, Yuyuhase showed NONE. I honestly think he's more evil than Lolorito, whom I also hate. I hope we get to see some more interaction with them in the MSQ. Maybe lock them both in a cell with what's-her-name. The Wolf girl.

A notable mention in my book is Yuyuhase. He is just an awful person, and every horrible deed he does he does it with that heartless, smug smirk. He didn't even seem the least bit bothered by his part in the whole Baelsar's Wall incident. As long as there's the possibility of coin involved, he couldn't care any less what happens to anyone else.

Any of the goblins.

Any of them.

I honestly dont really hate them but I do dislike

Lyse and Yotsuyu.

I liked Lyse as Yda way more and just dont really feel any kind of connection with her new character..also I got the feeling that some NPCs had to die so that she could have the role in SB. I also never truly understood why she had to follow us all the way to Doma, especially since I got the feeling that she barely learned anything there..

I dislike Yotsuyu because even if she had a bad life this does not make me feel sorry for her, when she goes around and kills innocent people that are way too young to had anything to do with her past. Characters that use their past as a reason to do those things annoy me a lot especially if they take it out on innocent people. I am even more annoyed at the recent turn of events and I already fear how her story will end..

(Oh and I dislike Minfilias link pearl calls. °L°)

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Originally Posted by Oscura

Any of the goblins.

Any of them.

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Hate, abhor, revile, hate you do?

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I dislike Yotsuyu because even if she had a bad life this does not make me feel sorry for her

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This sums up my feelings towards a lot of characters, honestly. Having bad things done to them may make me empathetic towards them, but ultimately a person is to be judged by their own actions - and so, so many of these characters are just utterly vile and beyond any hope of redemption in my eyes. I include Fordola in this, too, and would happily go rogue and kill the both of them, Laurentius, Yuyuhase and half a dozen others if the game would but give me the option.

...My character should probably main DRK instead of DRG. Oh well!

Yuyuhase and his smug face. No death will be too painful for him.
Also not a big fan of the admiral but that's probably because she is the least involved of the 3 city leaders. I don't hate her I just am indifferent to her.
Minfillia also was t high on my Christmas card list. At least the others joined me in battle while she just stood behind the desk making phone calls to deliver a message. I was her errand kitty.

From SB, I really disliked Cirina and Yotsuyu, especially the former. I cringed when Cirina gave that moe speech in front of Magnai and Sadu; she was so out of place there (>_<)

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

Hate, abhor, revile, hate you do?

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You're confusing with the kobolds

I despise Minfilia. Even useless Emmali... Wherever that guy's name was, as much as I wished Thancred allowed me to punch him in HW, at least he did something, no matter how stupid and foolish it was. Minfilia did absolutely next to nothing.

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Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid

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Where's that "nice motive, still murder" gif when I need it.

I mean, that's how I feel about most of the SB villians. I can empathise, but can I forgive?

These characters are better written and more entertaining on screen, so I can't "hate" them since I think they are good villians. I appreciate them for the sake of good storytelling and driving the game foward.

Verses a 2-dimensional, cliche that borrows from the same pool of "these are evil, immoral traits and actions" as a billion other, much more interesting villians, and only adds flair with a cool suit.

Curious Gorge and Constaint.

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Originally Posted by Clover_Blake

From SB, I really disliked Cirina and Yotsuyu, especially the former. I cringed when Cirina gave that moe speech in front of Magnai and Sadu; she was so out of place there (>_<)

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Noes:( not cirina. She best. Sadu is good too.

Minfilia such a useless "leader" and having us travel halfway across the game just to tell us something she could of mentioned over a link pearl.

Mostly I HATE her though because... spoilers

She just stood there as Moenbryda sacrificed the last of her aether to defeat an ascian, didn't try to give some of her own, didn't try to stop her... just stood there and let it happen.