Mysidia: When and How will it show up?

Let's try something different. The forums here have gone pretty grim lately. So let's discuss something instead. For a change it will not involve kitsune, vampires or necromancers. Or all three.

This time I want to discucc the city of Mysidia.

As you may or may not know Mysidia is the only city name that appears in multiple Final Fantasy games that otherwise have nothing to do with each other. II. IV, Dimensions, Brave Exvius, Chocobo Racing. And in several other games you can bump into the Mysidian Rabbit (or Rabbit Medium as it is called in FFXIV).

TL;DR: it is THE Final Fantasy location. For this reason I am convinced that it will appear in FFXIV as well at some point. Since it has always been the center of magical studies it could tie in with Blue Mage if we ever get them playable.


Sharlayan is also a likely suspect but the similarity in name makes me think of Meracydia as well.

This also begs other questions. Will it be a city? A town? A dungeon? A raid? An entire zone? Or a whole region?

What do you all think?

hopefully a city filled with kitsune vampire necromancers!

I think it would be a city-state in either Meracydia, in Thavnair or in a region in the empire near the boundary of Gyr Abania.

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Originally Posted by Rasler_Heios

I think it would be a city-state in either Meracydia, in Thavnair or in a region in the empire near the boundary of Gyr Abania.

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here i thought that meracydia was the referance to Mysidia, simmilar to how Garlamald is a form of Garland which tends to appear in most final fantasies

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

here i thought that meracydia was the referance to Mysidia, simmilar to how Garlamald is a form of Garland which tends to appear in most final fantasies

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Hhhmmm..., my understanding is Meracydia is a large continent to the south, so it can probably have city-states one of which is named Mysidia...

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Originally Posted by Rasler_Heios

Hhhmmm..., my understanding is Meracydia is a large continent to the south, so it can probably have city-states one of which is named Mysidia...

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i ment it by name, since it is a city in other final fantasies while in this one it might be the whole island.

tbh i would love to go to that southern island to visit the land of the dragons.

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

i ment it by name, since it is a city in other final fantasies while in this one it might be the whole island.

tbh i would love to go to that southern island to visit the land of the dragons.

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Ah ok yeah I got what you mean.

I hope they’d be able to do as much content to cover all continents in Hydealyn.

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

hopefully a city filled with kitsune vampire necromancers!

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Oh that would be great. Sign me up-

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

here i thought that meracydia was the referance to Mysidia, simmilar to how Garlamald is a form of Garland which tends to appear in most final fantasies

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Most likely yes. But that doesn't mean the actual Mysidia can't show up. Preferrably with the same music from IV

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

here i thought that meracydia was the referance to Mysidia, simmilar to how Garlamald is a form of Garland which tends to appear in most final fantasies

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We do have Garland here too.

I want more Allagan stuff. I want to enter into another Allagan territory like Azys Lla, or an underground Allagan metropolis. They can be in Meracydia or wherever actually. Since they were able to lift Dalamud and put it into orbit, maybe an Allagan base in the moon?

Well given that Mysidia is traditionally a city renowned for its wealth of knowledge and governed by spellcasters....that doesn't sound like someplace in Sharlayan; that sounds like a place that is Sharlayan. Whenever we go to Sharlayan, I suspect someone will call some portion of it Mysidia.

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

Well given that Mysidia is traditionally a city renowned for its wealth of knowledge and governed by spellcasters....that doesn't sound like someplace in Sharlayan; that sounds like a place that is Sharlayan. Whenever we go to Sharlayan, I suspect someone will call some portion of it Mysidia.

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Well Sharlayan is an archipelago of three islands so I think it might be possible for Mysidia to be a city somewhere there. Provided it still exists.

On the other hand I really am curious what Yoshi-P could do with the challenge of setting an entire expansion in one city. And Mysidia would be perfect for that as 1) it is an iconic location and 2) as a magic city it could have entire districts infested by voidsent or anything.

In term of urban planning: docks, normal city, slums, wealthy district, park, cemetery, sewers
That's seven zones already there.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Well Sharlayan is an archipelago of three islands so I think it might be possible for Mysidia to be a city somewhere there. Provided it still exists.

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Sharlayan seems to refer to both the currently three islands that make up the nation as well as the city of the major island. And yeah, Mysidia could also be something Sharlayan was built on as well as bearing the possibility of it being an existing place somewhere on those three islands.

Also, as the previous ones have proven, expansions usually aren't set in just one city, but rather two nations. If anything, I suspect it'd be more like how Kugane is treated, being the secondary big city next to Radz-at-Han or wherever else that expansion would take us.

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

Also, as the previous ones have proven, expansions usually aren't set in just one city, but rather two nations. If anything, I suspect it'd be more like how Kugane is treated, being the secondary big city next to Radz-at-Han or wherever else that expansion would take us.

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I know. That's why I said it would be a challenge. Also frankly there never was a proper city state we could completely explore. I know it is a good thing I'm not on the dev team but I'm curious how they would tackle seamingly bad ideas. To be fair Witcher was set exclusively in Vizima and it was fantastic.

Well, Kugane being the new city-state over Ala Mhigo was a genuine surprise. It's not even in Doma.

If Meracydia isn't supposed to be Mysidia directly, then it could instead act as a modern civilization found in the area. Azys Lla lore points that Meracydia was particularly difficult for the Allagans, especially when it's implied most other societies were basically steamrolled away, but that they eventually did take it over.

On another note, I find that for a society that epitomizes the concept of the ivory tower, it's implied that the "Sharlayan" people named their islands "Sharlayan," main homeland city "Sharlayan," and colony turned city-state "Sharlayan." Was this confusing mess of a naming convention meant to further push outsiders out, or was it just a failure of human language?

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

Well, Kugane being the new city-state over Ala Mhigo was a genuine surprise. It's not even in Doma.

If Meracydia isn't supposed to be Mysidia directly, then it could instead act as a modern civilization found in the area. Azys Lla lore points that Meracydia was particularly difficult for the Allagans, especially when it's implied most other societies were basically steamrolled away, but that they eventually did take it over.

On another note, I find that for a society that epitomizes the concept of the ivory tower, it's implied that the "Sharlayan" people named their islands "Sharlayan," main homeland city "Sharlayan," and colony turned city-state "Sharlayan." Was this confusing mess of a naming convention meant to further push outsiders out, or was it just a failure of human language?

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Well the planet of Azeroth has the contient of Azeroth and on it the kingdom of Azeroth. So yes, humans are lazy when naming places.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Well the planet of Azeroth has the contient of Azeroth and on it the kingdom of Azeroth. So yes, humans are lazy when naming places.

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Actually WoW only uses that name for the planet. No continent or kingdom shares the name.

Back to FFXIV though, given the Sharlayan tradition of restricting nearly all knowledge from there, it may be possible that Sharlayan is identified as a city, an island and a nation of islands because of how little everyone outside the place knows of it. Actually, given how hellbent they can be about hiding their info away, they might probably hide enough of it from their own citizens.

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

Actually WoW only uses that name for the planet. No continent or kingdom shares the name.

Back to FFXIV though, given the Sharlayan tradition of restricting nearly all knowledge from there, it may be possible that Sharlayan is identified as a city, an island and a nation of islands because of how little everyone outside the place knows of it. Actually, given how hellbent they can be about hiding their info away, they might probably hide enough of it from their own citizens.

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Actually no. It is not only the planet. Only the other places have alternate names. Like for example Eastern Kingdoms. It was obviously not named as such when nobody knew that Kalimdor existed west from them.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Azeroth_(disambiguation)


Regarding Sharlayan you are absolutely right. I mean when Leveva wanted to spread sharlayan astrology they dressed up several girls as Leveva and left them bound and gagged on the streets of Limsa Lominsa to cover the escape of the kidnappers of the real Leveva. They do positively insane things to protect their knowledge.

It would be very interesting. The question is how they would implement it. Considering 5.0 is the fight with the empire and I doubt that 5.x will be able to cover the entire fight with the empire and eventually bleed over into 6.0.

I would rather Mysidia show up as a full expansion, especially with its lore of mages. I would even be satisfied if they slowly unlocked the region every .5 patch

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Originally Posted by Derio

I would rather Mysidia show up as a full expansion, especially with its lore of mages. I would even be satisfied if they slowly unlocked the region every .5 patch

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You. I really like you.

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

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I don't think this is the case as a normie like me was confused by the bait-and-switch the ruins in the Hinterlands became. That IS Sharlayan, but so is the homeland city that all Sharlayan people (save Matoya) migrated back to since Eorzea-Sharlayan saw the Garleans coming.

And Eorzea-Sharlayan was as much part of Eorzean trade and culture as Pre-Garlean Ala Mhigo had been before Sharlayan turned tail and ran when the Garleans told them diplomacy was never an option. (Which turned out to be kinda a big deal and made the precident on how Garleans deal with outsiders to Eorzea.)

There was nothing that I saw indicating Sharlayan referred to at least two entirely different places until HW. I likely just missed a few lines at some point, but I was pretty miffed to land in a dead city when the place had been talked up as hard as Ala Mhigo had.

But, wait, no, this WAS Sharlayan, but not the Sharlayan we came from, oh no.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

But, wait, no, this WAS Sharlayan, but not the Sharlayan we came from, oh no.

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http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/f7/f7977...380aae3e36.jpg

So the Sharlayan ruins we went to in the Hinterlands were part of a colony area of the city-state abandoned when they saw the Garleans invade Ala Mhigo and went "nope, we're outta here".


Where they came back to was this Sharlayan.

http://i.imgur.com/vP3h3P3.jpg

That's the Sharlayan nation proper, and yes, it does say "Old Sharlayan" because that what it was compared to the Hinterlands colony. Whenever anyone mentions Sharlayan, that's usually what they're referring to unless they're pointing out something specific from the Hinterlands.

YEAH!
That was what I missed! At least they've taken to call it Old Sharlayan to make our lives easier.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

YEAH!
That was what I missed! At least they've taken to call it Old Sharlayan to make our lives easier.

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Actually it can be called Sharlayan now as new Sharlayan is Idyllshire now.